When Al is wiggling his eyebrows and smiling, he looks just like Kip from Napoleon Dynamite.
I guess you could say things are getting pretty serious.
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I never much liked the NWO video. Mike and Paul looked silly just standing there thrashing in an alleyway or whatever.
I always laugh at how it loops the same footage of them. It wouldn’t have looked as bad if Rieflin was there jamming with them.
[reply]I never much liked the NWO video. Mike and Paul looked silly just standing there thrashing in an alleyway or whatever.
Still, way less cheesy than this one.
That video is okay. Like someone else said, it was cool the way they edited it to make it seem as if Al and the boys are just jamming away in the middle of urban decay while the world goes straight to Hell. The whole police and military and riot scene collage format though is now far beyond cliché for music videos.
“Just One Fix” was, in my opinion, Ministry’s best video. It used some collage type imagery and had the look and dark nihilistic aesthetic of the time, but there was an actual linear story that was shown. I love that video. The part where Al rolls up his big ass American sedan and picks up the kids while looking so absolutely apathetic . . . it’s just beautiful. The epitome of badass. it was images like that which made me feel so deeply emotionally connected with the band in its prime. Now . . . oh, hey, there’s Angie and Al’s dogs holding up peace signs . . . NEXT!!![/reply]
It’s an improvement on all the videos since bad blood, but the song’s pretty meh and so’s the video. The vocal delivery ruins what could’ve lifted the song from mediocre to good.
Funny what you say about the vids gunnar, I got tapes of wrath a few months ago and it was fun watching ministry’s videos change with the bigger budgets they were afforded.
The early ones they used to make, like Flashback and LORAH were awesome. They used to sneak into a film studio a friend was working at and basically film and compile old stock footage into the wee hours of the night hoping not to be caught (so I remember reading somewhere…)… hence why those vids and Stigmata looked sorta cheap, but were awesome.
Then you watch burning inside and they’ve got the big budget, so they go all out with the fire eaters, cages, etc etc etc and it looks a bit hokey compared to those earlier videos.
And just one fix and nwo… they found that ‘old school’ ethos they used to work with and combined with good production. The old stock footage, burroughs shooting stuff, kids throwing up blood… fucking awesome. Even beavis and butthead thought it was awesome:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OThVgoWkNiE
Then with the lay lady lay video they threw away all the good work they did and went just for big production bullshit… cheesy live shots, random images, and for some reason, these videos always seem to emphasise shots of the band members smiling. a lot.
Huh,this was a lot better than i was expecting given what was said on here.Plus, his voices sounds processed to me maybe slowed down.I think this might be right behind houses as the best nu-ministry record
Huh,this was a lot better than i was expecting given what was said on here.Plus, his voices sounds processed to me maybe slowed down.I think this might be right behind houses as the best nu-ministry record
It’s possible. Again, I think it’ll come down to lyrics and vocals more than anything.
[reply]The part where Al rolls up his big ass American sedan and picks up the kids while looking so absolutely apathetic . . .
and of course that final scene as Al picks up the other junkies to go on some mysterious hell ride…excellent all around…[/reply]
“Hey kiddies, we have candy; get in the car!”
It’s possible. Again, I think it’ll come down to lyrics and vocals more than anything.
I think this is called “throwing in the towel”.
Ministry are officially now worse than Korn.
At least Korn can write better lyrics. Although it’s pretty hard to go lower than -
“We’re finghting never ending wars…for profit and fun.”
- in a voice that sounds like one of the “baddies” from those Mighty Morphin Power Rangers episodes my 7 year old kid likes so much.
[:(]
Although it’s pretty hard to go lower than -
“We’re finghting never ending wars…for profit and fun.”
[:(]
You obviously don’t own “Relapse”.
Compared to 99 Percenters it’s the friggin’ Mona Lisa.
I’ll agree on the lyrics, but the music on 99 Percenters was WAY better than this track. The only thing I like about Permawar is the middle section of the song.
“Permaworf” a song about Worf with a perm would be much better.
[reply]Although it’s pretty hard to go lower than -
“We’re finghting never ending wars…for profit and fun.”
[:(]
You obviously don’t own “Relapse”.[/reply]
Git up, get out and vote
[reply]Although it’s pretty hard to go lower than -
“We’re finghting never ending wars…for profit and fun.”
[:(]
You obviously don’t own “Relapse”.[/reply]
You rapscallion! How can you impugn the transcendent brilliance of “1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8/ 99 percenters/ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8/ 99 percenters/ Hey! Hey! Hey hey hey!”?!
I listened to that album twice. It contains some of the worst lyrics I have ever heard from any band… ever. Lazy, childish, and weak as fuck. I suppose I can get why some people may have liked the music (though I didn’t) but I will never understand a human being who can tell me, speaking about the lyrics, that he/her “felt that shit”. It’s so thoughtless and weak.
I listened to that album twice. It contains some of the worst lyrics I have ever heard from any band… ever. Lazy, childish, and weak as fuck. I suppose I can get why some people may have liked the music (though I didn’t) but I will never understand a human being who can tell me, speaking about the lyrics, that he/her “felt that shit”. It’s so thoughtless and weak.
Yes. And yet…somehow…SOMEHOW the album managed to get good reviews. It left me reeling. How bad does this shit have to get before people sit up and take notice.
Although, recently I did come across this little gem posted on The Quietus:
[I]I suppose if you’re 15, and your parents have recently delivered the ghastly “If you leave the house looking like that, don’t bother coming back!” routine, Jourgensen’s shenanigans may hold a hint of resonance. But in that case, might I suggest looking into Ministry’s back catalogue for better riffs and more intelligent anthems.
As a political statement, Relapse comes off as unfocused at best, embarrassing and opportunist at worst. And if it’s a protest song you’re after, what’s wrong with ‘Stigmata’, or better yet, The Exploited or a good old Crass record? Ministry may have once occupied my youthful ears, but Relapse now occupies my trash bin.
This new material represents not only their most heinous effort to date; it might in fact be among the most appalling things to ever exist, empirically speaking. There’s a way to suck seed, and a way to suck eggs, and here, sadly, Ministry sucks it all. Absolute garbage of the highest order. It leaves one thinking…“What the fuck happened to these guys?”[/I]
I thought “YES!! Finally SOMEBODY got it right!!!”
- in a voice that sounds like one of the “baddies” from those Mighty Morphin Power Rangers episodes my 7 year old kid likes so much.
Oh fuck yes. Whenever I hear Al’s “new” vocal style, I immediately think of some douche in a rubbery monster costume, prancing around in front of the camera, trying to look badass in one of them tv shows that 10 year old boys like.
It leaves one thinking…“What the fuck happened to these guys?”
He tries to sound all high and mighty but he’s not smart enough to know what happened…Derp. Paul left, d’uh.
I don’t think it’s “pure garbage” though, there’s some slick riffs in the post barker catalog. But I don’t think you’d find anyone older than 15 trying to suggest that it’s all gold.
Late,
grmpysmrf
[reply]- in a voice that sounds like one of the “baddies” from those Mighty Morphin Power Rangers episodes my 7 year old kid likes so much.
Oh fuck yes. Whenever I hear Al’s “new” vocal style, I immediately think of some douche in a rubbery monster costume, prancing around in front of the camera, trying to look badass in one of them tv shows that 10 year old boys like.[/reply]
It’s really fucking bad, isn’t it? This is the one time his shot out voice would benefit from the vocal fx and he strips them. And not in a cool way either. He sounds fucking stupid. Like a wannabe death metal singer from a college band.
[reply] It leaves one thinking…“What the fuck happened to these guys?”
He tries to sound all high and mighty but he’s not smart enough to know what happened…Derp. Paul left, d’uh.
I don’t think it’s “pure garbage” though, there’s some slick riffs in the post barker catalog. But I don’t think you’d find anyone older than 15 trying to suggest that it’s all gold.
Late,
grmpysmrf[/reply]
Any hippie faggot who uses “derp” in a sentence to insult someone is by default left off the list of people whose opinions should be acknowledged. This ain’t 2009, nigga. Derp your ass.
But yeah, Paul left and nothing of worth has been put out since, aside from the bio and maybe the pointless and confusing FIX movie. But I’ve not heard the full album yet so I won’t judge (even though I’m expecting shite).
[reply] It leaves one thinking…“What the fuck happened to these guys?”
He tries to sound all high and mighty but he’s not smart enough to know what happened…Derp. Paul left, d’uh.
I don’t think it’s “pure garbage” though, there’s some slick riffs in the post barker catalog. But I don’t think you’d find anyone older than 15 trying to suggest that it’s all gold.
Late,
grmpysmrf[/reply]
Any hippie faggot who uses “derp” in a sentence to insult someone is by default left off the list of people whose opinions should be acknowledged. This ain’t 2009, nigga. Derp your ass.[/reply]
Boy you can’t help yourself can ya’ ya derpy little bitch
[reply][reply] It leaves one thinking…“What the fuck happened to these guys?”
He tries to sound all high and mighty but he’s not smart enough to know what happened…Derp. Paul left, d’uh.
I don’t think it’s “pure garbage” though, there’s some slick riffs in the post barker catalog. But I don’t think you’d find anyone older than 15 trying to suggest that it’s all gold.
Late,
grmpysmrf[/reply]
Any hippie faggot who uses “derp” in a sentence to insult someone is by default left off the list of people whose opinions should be acknowledged. This ain’t 2009, nigga. Derp your ass.[/reply]
Boy you can’t help yourself can ya’ ya derpy little bitch[/reply]
Fuck off, you whiny twat. Stop bastardizing every thread into you bitching that someone disagreed with your attempts at an “in your face” opinion. Keep your shit throwing to a minimum for once. You don’t really need to ruin every thread with your whiny bullshit so quickly.