Marilyn Manson 'Born Villain'

It was hard to find just one clip - as they’re all so hilariously try hard - but this one might just take the cake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wha2Fe93tTw

Ooooh, he so bad mo’fuckah!!

Jeez.

Keep it up , Grmpysmrf. I’m actually starting to like you.

Really.

Yeah, I’m not the self important one posting pics of himself dressed like Ziggy Stardust and hamming it up with drunken, ugly lesbians at a Halloween dance party for emo retards, mate.

Keep the Marilyn Manson love coming though. It’s pure gold. We’ve all had a chuckle over at my house this afternoon. You’re keeping us all in stitches mate. I’m printing that shit out and pasting it somewhere.

Hanging out at Olsen’s pad for a sausage party and reading printouts of Prongs off the refrigerator . . . . or rolling to the gothy goth rock party with Void to hang out with Integrity and all her skanky hot friends . . . . .

Yeah, that’s a tough choice.

Jeez.

Keep it up , Grmpysmrf. I’m actually starting to like you.

Really.

You’ve always liked me, admit it!!!
Late,
grmpysmrf

Yeah, I’m not the self important one posting pics of himself dressed like Ziggy Stardust and hamming it up with drunken, ugly lesbians at a Halloween dance party for emo retards, mate.

I was asked to post those pictures and I’ve now deleted them because yet again the people on this board cannot handle me sharing my life without making personal attacks.

I don’t recall anyone asking you to post those gay ass shots of you showing off your abs and dick for the all male Prongs board, homie.

Though i did beat off to them - thanks :slight_smile:

Regardless of the childish back and forth, the point is I started a thread about a video so either leave your two cents or don’t. I could care less because we all know you hate Marilyn Manson.

To come in flaming about how “you thought we were too cool to talk about this artist on sacred Prongs and you’re showing this to your friends” is way more pathetic than this video, which you should have posted if you wanted to make fun of Marilyn Manson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b74fgy9Ea5A

I was asked to post those pictures and I’ve now deleted them because, again the people on this board cannot handle me sharing my life without personal attacks.

Dude, do you really care what the rest of them think?

Personally, I don’t have a problem with you.

We don’t agree on a lot of things, but you do seem fairly cluey and you can express yrself rather vividly and creatively.

Also, you like Prurient. Which is good.

I don’t recall anyone asking you to post those gay ass shots of you showing off your abs and dick for the Prongs board, homie.

Though i did beat off to them - thanks :slight_smile:

Glad I’m not the only one. Phew!

Regardless of the childish back and forth, the point is I started a thread about a video so either leave your two cents or don’t. I could care less because we all know you hate Marilyn Manson.

To come in flaming about how “you thought we were too cool to talk about this artist on sacred Prongs and you’re showing this to your friends” is way more pathetic than this video, which you should have posted if you wanted to make fun of Marilyn Manson:

Manson is a dick. I don’t care for him. But feel free to create as many Manson threads as you feel necessary. Personally I’d prefer more NSFW type thread where we post our favourite nudie pics.

Oh and Olsen’s dick is definitely worth the $10 entry fee. It’s quite spectacular, take it from me.

Oh and Olsen’s dick is definitely worth the $10 entry fee. It’s quite spectacular, take it from me.

I’m not denying that. He’s such a strapping young twink. Let me see if I can find them now so I can have another round :slight_smile:

I could care less because we all know you hate Marilyn Manson.

So you care more than you should? “I could care less” says that there is still room to not care. Where couldn’t care less is already at the bottom of not caring.
I think we need a clarification. I know all about lazy writing I rule that kingdom. But I think you were trying to sound cool and just messed up… again.
Late,
grmpysmrf

Screw those guys, Void. The fact that some pissy little boys get their panties in a wad because you’re doing what you’re doing is only a testament to your awesomeness.

It is pretty weak though, just how personal some people make this stuff. I know I’m relatively new around here but I’ve never seen Void crap on anyone unprovoked and even when people are taking potshots at him he generally lets it slide and doesn’t stoop to the same level. I don’t know if it’s jealousy or if it’s some douchey fratboy power trip thing, but it’s really pretty disgusting and embarrassing to witness.

Anyway, Void, do what you will, but if you want my advice and take on it . . . just keep doing your thing and ignore the haters. Your stuff is different and some people (in fact, most people) won’t get it or like it. Ironically, some of those people are into even less popular and listenable stuff . . . but I digress.

What I want to say is this (and I think Marilyn Manson would probably agree with me too, hiiiyyooooo!!!) - - - Embrace the hate, dude. The more people attack you, the more free publicity you get. The more vehement their spewing, the more effective your art apparently was.

Don’t let the bastards beat you down, Dude. Just laugh and let it make you stronger.

Cheers!
Gunnar

I think maybe (and I’m only speculating) that some people here get jizzed off over the amount of attention void pays to Manson and the fact that he has seemingly tried to create his own Manson persona instead of doing something original. I know I’ve had private discussions with others here who say that void seems to post a new thread every time Manson so much as picks his nose. He also bombards us with “publicity” shots of himself acting like a Manson protege - all dolled up in emo/glam type gear etc.

I dunno - it doesn’t bum me out. It is a little funny sometimes. And it’s ok sometimes to poke a little fun at him. He knows (at least as far as I’m concerned) that it’s hardly personal. I think he likes the attention it brings.

Emo/glam? I wonder if I’ve just invented a new genre.

I don’t believe in originality and never denied Manson’s influence on me. Manson himself was supposed to be “just an Alice Cooper for the 90s” right?

He has also borrowed heavily from a number of artists. Like any artist, he is an amalgamation of his influences. However, because he succeeds at being iconic on a level that most artists cannot/do not want to attain, it is difficult to be influenced by him and not be accused of copying.

The concept of originality is a total crock of shit. It just shouldn’t be to the point where it’s blatant copying. Maybe I have been guilty of that in the past. I think Manson has too. The Jodorowsky references in ‘Born Villain’ are IMO an example of this.

This new band Baba bin Yaga will be much more different from Manson’s sound than Nursing Home was. Also keep in mind part of the similarity is that I am also influenced by the artists which influenced Marilyn Manson (the band):

Skinny Puppy, Ministry, Nine Inch Nails, Bauhaus, Big Black etc.

I started this thread because I was curious of people’s thoughts on the ‘Born Villain’ video. I was quite critical of it but also enjoyed it.

So let’s hopefully get back on that topic…

Alright. Fair enough, let’s be civil. No more personal attacks.

Re. the new Manson track: I didn’t like it nor did I like the video clip. I don’t really feel Manson has progressed much in the last 10 years at all. In fact, if anything he’s gone largely backward.

Teaming up with Shia LaBouef to made a Jodorowsky rip off and pass it off as art is more or less a low point in a career with far too many troughs and not enough peaks.

He’s a bit like P Orridge in that he tries far too hard to intellectualize everything he does. Everything has to be a “statement”, as in “I am an important artist and I am pushing boundaries that few artists will ever push” - then goes off a makes the same old clip with the same old goth/fascist/bondage/fetish/nazi/halloween dressup imagery as the last clip. It’s pretty laughable. And pretty bubble gum. He’'s still shocking the same old people with the same old gag. He should fuck off.

And stop singing in that horrible whiny, nasally croak.

Alright. Fair enough, let’s be civil. No more personal attacks.

Re. the new Manson track: I didn’t like it nor did I like the video clip. I don’t really feel Manson has progressed much in the last 10 years at all. In fact, if anything he’s gone largely backward.

Teaming up with Shia LaBouef to made a Jodorowsky rip off and pass it off as art is more or less a low point in a career with far too many troughs and not enough peaks.

He’s a bit like P Orridge in that he tries far too hard to intellectualize everything he does. Everything has to be a “statement”, as in “I am an important artist and I am pushing boundaries that few artists will ever push” - then goes off a makes the same old clip with the same old goth/fascist/bondage/fetish/nazi/halloween dressup imagery as the last clip. It’s pretty laughable. And pretty bubble gum. He’'s still shocking the same old people with the same old gag. He should fuck off.

And stop singing in that horrible whiny, nasally croak.

I agree with you on most of what you said.

C’mon man.

There’s seriously more worthwhile individuals to be batting for. He’s had his time.

He’s got all this support and resources at his disposal and he’s failed to do anything significant for years.

I think the sentiment here was;
Voidhead posts fanatically about Marilyn Manson and himself.

Olsen points out that any discussion about MM’s ability to reclaim the throne (so to speak…) is a moot point.

Voidhead gets butthurt.

Olsen points out Voidhead’s shameless and incessant self promotion (which I’ve chosen to ignore; too much overkill. The picture/flyer/video to music ratio is woefully skewed in the former. Put out some more music. It was improving, last time I checked. I’m sick of this hyper-promotional ego driven bullshit everyone seems to be trippin on these days).

Voidhead gets more butthurt.

Hilarity ensues until Olsen decides to play nice again. This is the first time you’ve disappointed me in a long time, son. [shocked]

Aside from the fact you were the reason gerda barker doesn’t post here any more. Her well written, rational and considerate messages are sorely, sorely missed.

[laugh]

Alright fuckers! Dildo, you have challenged me and I feel you’re right.

I been too much promo and not enough music mojo for awhile now! I do have a lot of stuff brewing but I gotta shit out a new turd into this stream of life!!

Here is my word! Tomorrow I will post new never before heard song!!! [pirate][pirate][pirate]

How’s about this.

Take your time.

Sit and stew.

We don’t care if you post something tomorrow, or in ten years times.

We don’t even really care if it’s that good or not. As long as you’re happy with it and not being an annoying cunt about it.

Yep, that’s right; you being happy about your music means more to me than it being good.

Because, it comes across as genuine. Take your time. We’re patient. No dramas. No challenges.

But hold back on the photos. Hold back on the teaser promos. We know you. We know your band names. There’s noone to indoctrinate. Save that for a bunch of other forums. Or public transport. Or public toilets. Or some other outlet where you are not preaching ot the converted.

If they’re to accompany the music, then great. Often, I find they complement the music. Sometimes, I feel you miss the mark completely.

Either way, don’t worry about us. You worry about people a little too much.

That other thread I wrote had a little more to it than you think.

Don’t be too patronizing I know what I’m doing. :stuck_out_tongue:

I like deadlines and I’ve been sitting on this for too long which is why I am accepting your challenge.

Sit on it for as long as you need. Whatever tickles yer prostate!

[reply]Alright. Fair enough, let’s be civil. No more personal attacks.

Re. the new Manson track: I didn’t like it nor did I like the video clip. I don’t really feel Manson has progressed much in the last 10 years at all. In fact, if anything he’s gone largely backward.

Teaming up with Shia LaBouef to made a Jodorowsky rip off and pass it off as art is more or less a low point in a career with far too many troughs and not enough peaks.

He’s a bit like P Orridge in that he tries far too hard to intellectualize everything he does. Everything has to be a “statement”, as in “I am an important artist and I am pushing boundaries that few artists will ever push” - then goes off a makes the same old clip with the same old goth/fascist/bondage/fetish/nazi/halloween dressup imagery as the last clip. It’s pretty laughable. And pretty bubble gum. He’'s still shocking the same old people with the same old gag. He should fuck off.

And stop singing in that horrible whiny, nasally croak.

I agree with you on most of what you said.[/reply]

Yeah. Next time, Olson, just start out with that instead of being a dick right out the gate.

I don’t think he’s “gone largely backward,” though. If he did that it would be an improvement.

He’s kinda like Al. Had good collaborators, but chased them all away. And now goes in circles thinking that’s what the kids and old fans want. Haven’t heard the new song yet (it got yanked). Geordie said the new album was supposed to be a punk-ish mechanical animals, but he didn’t seem so sure of that. Manson should man-up and try something else. You can still be a “character”, but musically, you could eventually venture in other territory. It’s only been almost 20 years afterall. He’ll eventually turn into the coker out Robert Smith though. Only difference, Robert Smith can still write a few good tunes.