Girls

Guys! Don’t feel so bad about all this.

Hands up here who HASN’T been snubbed at some point by a bitchy female.

We all have y’know.

I’ve been snubbed so many times it hurts to think about it. And the ones who do like me think I’m “cute” but only “friend material”.

FUCK OFF!!! Friend?!?! If I think you’re hot, I’m not going to want to have you as a ‘friend’.

Sheesh.

I do alot of internet ‘dating’. IE One night stands. I like being single and hate trawling clubs, parties etc for a mate. Fuck it, I prefer - I like the look of you, you like the look of me, let’s fuck and go our separate ways.

Capiche?

Yeah, looks are important - in terms of relationships or just plain getting laid. You can dance around it as much as you’d like but in the end it matters. Beautiful people have a head start on life (doesn’t guarantee them a happy, healthy existence though).

Agreed.

To reel a girl in, you gotta have bait. No bait, no catch.

I have a couple of mates and a cousin who cannot pick up - even when they’ve virtually been handed a potential fuck on a silver platter.

And yeah, they’re hurtin’.

What a sad sausage-fest of losers the lot of you are :slight_smile:

Girls are human beings just like men. Young girls/women date the handsome/cool/empty guys but at a certain age, those guys become wrecks. Once a girl gets her handsome guy fix out of her system, she grows up and becomes interested in guys with actual character.

The biggest mistake one without the stereotypical good looks can make is to look for empty young immature women. Obviously you’re not gonna be good at that game.

But when it come to emotionally mature women who are actually looking for a meaningful relationship, we’ve got the handsome jocks beat BY A MILE.

Hey, didn’t I see you at the Sizzler last night?

Hey, didn’t I see you at the Sizzler last night?

You’re shorter than me.

Be wary of the “just be yourself” advice. This is usually inferred to mean just act the way you normally act. Often this will get you nowhere. I’m surmising but I assume most guys natural inclination is to be nice to a girl he likes. Unfortunately, this can lead to being “friend-zoned”. If you do all the things that women harp on about wanting their man to do (listening intently, feelings, emotions, yadda yadda yadda) you get “friend-zoned”, which can be more frustrating/painful than being rejected immediately (and time consuming.) And this is totally understandable and cannot be blamed on women.

To avoid being friend-zoned you have to show a bit of meanness. This gives the woman an excuse to complain about you but you’ll get laid so it’s worth it. You be all nice to her the whole time she might hug you now and then but will be mad jealous of you fooling around with other women. What women may not realise in general is that if you’re best friend/close friend is a straight male, he wants to fuck you. If you’re not fucking and you’re dating someone else and he’s single, he’s going insane. Very few straight men want to be great friends but also be platonic with women. And this is totally understandable and cannot be blamed on men.

Guys need to be aware of how they’re being perceived by women and acknowledge that their first inclination to be nice may not be the best course of action if they want have sex with the woman.

Women should not be made feel guilty for prefering men who are good looking, men should not be made feel guilty for prefering women who are good looking.

In saying all this it’s also a waste of time to heed a load of relationship advice on the internet as it’s the same old shit rehashed over and over, like horoscopes. If you can’t cop onto realities yourself and make the changes needed then you don’t deserve shit. And that’s why this thread should not be taken seriously and why Icepick wins another one.

(listening intently, feelings, emotions, yadda yadda yadda)

In all fairness, these are the things to do AFTER you have her hooked. If you continue to play the jerk, more than likely, you’ll lose her.
P.S. the green death, “You ever seen one of these before?”
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grmpysmrf

Mick, most people don’t know where they are going wrong and require an outside perspective to tell them straight up in order to correct the behavior; otherwise, they continue in their bad habits and never get any joy.

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Hey, didn’t I see you at the Sizzler last night?

You’re shorter than me.
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[laugh]

@mick: I AM THE STRONGEST.

Seriously.

Not bothering with women has been one of the most refreshing experiences of my life!

I’ve never been busier.

Just can’t be stuffed anymore.

Alright, I’ll admit; my last relationship; ended horribly. So, I’m put off.

There’s been interested parties since. Nice ones, nice girls (as people) I should probably give a go.

But, I just prefer… well, getting shit done. A relationship is hard work.

Even getting a root is.

Don’t have time, don’t care.

Funnily enough, when you have this attitude… it seems to find you, A LOT. I’ve been hearing ‘you’re fucking mad’ from my mates constantly for the last 3 months when we go out and I’ll get talking to some bird and simply not bother to save her number in the phone.

Depends what you want out of life.

Eh, I’ll probably get over this when I forget her and the need for good lovin’ becomes too much. But I sort of doubt it… for a long while at least, anyway

Oh, and Mick, RE: ‘be yourself’

I still maintain this is the best policy

I’ve met some pretty interesting chicks this way. I tend to freak out of most girls. But the ones who don’t get freaked out like it.

And we had a lot of fun together.

Only problem is, they always get attached. They think you’re the only ‘weird’ guy out there and therefore must be their one true love.

This always leads to a lot of sadness when it ends. I’ve had some pretty awful things happen in this department. And I’d attribute it to the intensity of the relationship itself.

Depends what ya want;

if ya wanna quick easy simple little fuck buddy, don’t be yourself. Just be anything.

But, if you want something deeper. Well, yourself.

And to be honest, what I like about the relationship, more than sex, is the companionship. Just having someone there. Hence why I always find myself in that situation.

And to be honest, what I like about the relationship, more than sex, is the companionship. Just having someone there. Hence why I always find myself in that situation.

not to dog on you but it doesn’t really matter how you conduct yourself cause you’re an attractive cat, so girls are already attracted to you, then when you hit them with your quirkyness/down to earthness then you’re an even better catch!

Good looking people, they got no spine, no character, because they’re so used to having doors opened for them or most people sucking up to them that they grow into being broken, spoiled, rotten individuals… BUT, every once in a while one comes around that is grounded and doesn’t take themselves seriously and they are normal individuals which make them even more attractive… which, getting back to you, is why you have no problem meeting women or getting them to stay!

good looking cat… you shaved a fucking cul de sac into your head and you were still attractive!!! let’s fade into a conversation that probably took place at your concert… “see that attractive guy just tried to make himself ugly…??” “mmmm yeah that’s so hot. I’m gonna go talk to him”

now a guy with a real cul de sac… “ooooh, look at that creepy bald guy at the concert!!” “ooh, yeah!! don’t leave my side, he’ll probably try to talk to me”

in closing, the difference between stalker and sweeties is attractiveness… unfortunately the majority of us (i mean on the planet not the board) are stalkers!

<end tirade>
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grmpysmrf

I think people with little personality who are too shy/meek to express themselves are dull and I usually avoid them or exploit their meekness for my benefit in social situations.

If you can’t play the game get the fuck off the court.

Also yeah I’m kind of an asshole and I’m aware of that. I don’t really care. Most of the time I get what I want and that’s by being assertive. Shit or get off the pot. Go to the damn gym and improve your hygiene and wardrobe if you’re ugly.

I also dislike people who are overly loud or aggressive and yes I’ve been guilty of that too so there is definitely a flip side…

Also yeah I’m kind of an asshole and I’m aware of that. I don’t really care.

Well, since you’re pro kiddie porn I suppose the “not care” trait is a decent one for you to have

Most of the time I get what I want and that’s by being assertive.

Or because people will do, pretty much, whatever it takes just to make an asshole go away, " ugh, give him what he wants so he’ll leave!"

I also dislike people who are overly loud or aggressive and yes I’ve been guilty of that too so there is definitely a flip side…

But you LIKE girls who are sweaty and obese and who probably aren’t too picky as a result of their condition so its easy to sate yourself!

Wow, I was all pretty offsides there! I’ve been kind of a dick lately! I’m sure my current insomnia is contributing to my dickheadedness either that or I’m still put off by void’s earlier stated kiddie porn views
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grmpysmrf

not to dog on you but it doesn’t really matter how you conduct yourself cause you’re an attractive cat, so girls are already attracted to you, then when you hit them with your quirkyness/down to earthness then you’re an even better catch!

Good looking people, they got no spine, no character, because they’re so used to having doors opened for them or most people sucking up to them

This is true in a way.

Good looking people generally seem to exude confidence and social smarts but have an almost warped sense of reality. They are the ones who will tell you to ‘be yourself’ or that ‘looks don’t matter…it’s what inside that counts’ because they’ve never (or have rarely) encountered situations where their looks have counted against them. So, in a way, looks don’t matter to them because it’s not something they ever have to think about - it comes naturally.

People want to be around good looking people - attractive types are people magnets in social situations. When a good looking person smiles at you or approaches you, you feel positive about yourself. When an ugly or awkward person approaches someone it’s a different story.

A ‘cute’ guy can do anything and still pull the ladies - no matter how ‘weird’ he acts. Girls will want him and his uniqueness only adds to the charm he exudes. Now imagine a 6ft3 skinny guy, with a nest of frizzy hair, big ears and nose, pale freckly skin, overbite and bad posture and who talks with a lisp who is trying to act weird and all girls will think when they see him is ‘please don’t talk to me, please don’t talk to me, please don’t talk to me, please don’t talk to me…’

A good example is when Gwyneth Paltrow put on a fat suit and walked around New York for three days. She said that by the beginning of the third day she was so depressed and so utterly despondant that she couldn’t get out of bed in the morning and spent most of the day sobbing uncontrollably. She was not used to being treated like that and it gave her a new perspective on how people really are.

And one of the guys I used to work for had a very beautiful sister who was a swimsuit model and who took part in a social experiment for the ABC where she was made to look ugly and go and work as a waitress in a trendy eatery. She was asked to try and chat to as many people as possible to try and gauge a reaction. And the reaction was that she was called a ‘cunt’, an ‘ugly bitch’ after she left the room, guys scoffed when she asked them about their evening or whether they were enjoying their meal. People ignored her when she tried to take their orders or came to collect the bill. She even overheard one guy asking another why a place like that would hire a girl like her.

Then on the next night, she took off the ‘ugly’ suit, dressed herself up and…yeah you can pretty much guess how it went from there.

Pretty humbling experiences, both of them.

Children are a good barometer for that kind of thing because they are not yet socially formed and have not adopted the ‘manners’ and social graces that adults put on to conduct themselves maturely. Children say the thing adults think but are too polite to say. And look at how kids treat the ugly members of the class - with utter contempt. Something ingrained deep inside their dna tells that it is unacceptable to mix with this ‘inferior’ speciman and to single out and ostracise them.

Which is kinda interesting.

In the end, though, isn’t it kind of a tautological argument? Who do girls tend to go for? The attractive guys. How do you recognize/define an attractive guy? The guys who get the girls…

I mean, I’m a straight man, and when I look at my male friends, I have no clue where they are on the good-looking scale, unless they’re right on either end of it. Is that guy a 4 or a 7? I don’t know, ask a woman. It seems like a completely different experience from being a heterosexual female, who still somehow know how attractive all the other women are.

Women are catty bitches because they think they are in constant competition with each other for the high-value male. They base what kind of male they can attract on their appearance.

I walked into the ladies room at State Theater during the CombiChrist/KMFDM show and some insecure female was standing at the mirror with her posse. I heard her ripping down Lucia and comparing herself to her! Women want to be the queen bee and have all the male attention on them.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I’ve had guys, other women, and kids be great to me and others be complete fucking dumb arses.

Blonds and brunettes are treated completely differently too. Same girl in a wig on two separate days interacting with the same employees in the same stores. Blonds are treated way better because the expectation is lower.

I think people with little personality who are too shy/meek to express themselves are dull and I usually avoid them or exploit their meekness for my benefit in social situations.

I generally avoid people who are cunts and who have shitty taste in music.

Just sayin’ is all.

If you can’t play the game get the fuck off the court.

That’s what my tennis coach said to me when I was nine.

He also called me a ‘spastic’ and said I’d make a good argument for euthanasia.

Also yeah I’m kind of an asshole and I’m aware of that. I don’t really care. Most of the time I get what I want and that’s by being assertive.

Right on bro!

Hitler did the same. And look what happened as a result - he got the German economy up and rollin’ and the citizens prospered.

Admittedly he also…um…yeah…well…y’know - all that other stuff.

I hear he never liked cripples.

Shit or get off the pot. Go to the damn gym and improve your hygiene and wardrobe if you’re ugly.

For the second time - Right on!!

Could I also point out, for old times sake, that you listen to Marilyn Manson?

People want to be around good looking people - attractive types are people magnets in social situations. When a good looking person smiles at you or approaches you, you feel positive about yourself. When an ugly or awkward person approaches someone it’s a different story.

[url http://comedians.jokes.com/jim-gaffigan/videos/jim-gaffigan---people-who-don-t-drink]Jim gaffigan has a pretty funny bit on this. “If an an attractive person smiles at you, you think Awww they’re nice . but if an ugly person smiles at you you think oh man what do they want?”

In the end, though, isn’t it kind of a tautological argument? Who do girls tend to go for? The attractive guys. How do you recognize/define an attractive guy? The guys who get the girls…

there is an actual beauty/attractive equation that can be followed to find out who most likely will get the girls, it’s based on your symmetry… But yea, very circular reasoning.

I mean, I’m a straight man, and when I look at my male friends, I have no clue where they are on the good-looking scale, unless they’re right on either end of it.

Well, I think this probably means 1 of 2 things:
#1 either you’re homophobic, which I tend to doubt considering you freely say you can spot the very attractive or the very ugly same gender
or #2 you are the attractive one out of your group of friends, and thus has never had to think about it.

I can rate dudes but it’s not sexual. I can look at a dude and based on how they look, decide who has the better shot at getting some arbitrary female, me or them… I know where I think I am on the attractive scale (Course that scale is a little warped considering the demographics in which I grew up in-however, they don’t really matter anymore anyway, but that self image hasn’t left yet)and so I place them in front or behind me on that scale based on the attractive male attributes I wish I had or have over them …

“Oh man, he’s got a solid jawline and a baby face, I can’t compete with that…” or “oh man his eyes are scrunched in the middle of his head dudes got thin lips and a mega receding hairline. I got that beat by a mile!”

obviously some chicks are attracted to the receding hair line or the weak jaw but I’m generalizing here.

Women are catty bitches because they think they are in constant competition with each other for the high-value male. They base what kind of male they can attract on their appearance.

Well this is true to some extent. you can base what kind of female you can get on your appearance… but I think this is as far as I match up with the female way of thinking on the subject. I don’t see it as a competition, I don’t hate that guy, I’m not in the bathroom tearing him down in the mirror or finding myself mock befriending him just to destroy him (hello, soap opera teen dramas) it just is what it is. However, pretending to befriend that guy might of been a good idea, that way I might have been able to get in his rejected girl pile…
Late,
grmpysmrf

P.S.

This is true in a way.

I like it when we agree, Peligro. Can we both say it just feels right?[:)]
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grmpysmrf