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I think people with little personality who are too shy/meek to express themselves are dull and I usually avoid them or exploit their meekness for my benefit in social situations.

If you can’t play the game get the fuck off the court.

Also yeah I’m kind of an asshole and I’m aware of that. I don’t really care. Most of the time I get what I want and that’s by being assertive. Shit or get off the pot. Go to the damn gym and improve your hygiene and wardrobe if you’re ugly.

So, what you’re saying is, if you’re a little lacking in social graces you should just fuck off and not bother the ‘beautiful’ people as they’re way too important to deal with insignificants. Don’t even try, don’t even bother - if at first you fail, give up completely. Unless you can cut it with the big boys and strut your stuff on the stage of life, you are a failure and everybody hates you.

And as everybody knows the more beautiful you are the more interesting you must be.

I’d also like to point out that you listen to Marilyn Manson.

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Well, I think this probably means 1 of 2 things:
#1 either you’re homophobic, which I tend to doubt considering you freely say you can spot the very attractive or the very ugly same gender
or #2 you are the attractive one out of your group of friends, and thus has never had to think about it.

I can rate dudes but it’s not sexual. I can look at a dude and based on how they look, decide who has the better shot at getting some arbitrary female, me or them… I know where I think I am on the attractive scale (Course that scale is a little warped considering the demographics in which I grew up in-however, they don’t really matter anymore anyway, but that self image hasn’t left yet)and so I place them in front or behind me on that scale based on the attractive male attributes I wish I had or have over them …

I don’t know precisely where I am on the attractiveness scale, but I would assume a bit below average. I certainly never picked up on much attraction from the vast majority of girls, and was never popular in school. I think it’s just irrelevant to me because I’ve been in the same happy relationship for pretty much my entire adult life (well, ages 19-23 so far, and before that I was generally just feeling like the least attractive guy in the world, also not very helpful in forming judgement), so I really don’t view other guys as competitors- unless of course my girlfriend is flirting with a “very attractive” type. The guy with the best shot of getting some arbitrary female is going to be the other guy, if he’s single, because I’m out of the game and was barely ever in it.

“Oh man, he’s got a solid jawline and a baby face, I can’t compete with that…” or “oh man his eyes are scrunched in the middle of his head dudes got thin lips and a mega receding hairline. I got that beat by a mile!”

A baby face is a good thing now? I think there was actually a study claiming that woman preferred more baby-faced men for marriages and more rugged men for flings, or maybe the inverse of that… it’s an interesting science.

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A baby face is a good thing now?

Where I’m from its always been a good thing.
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i can just smell the average size dicks throughout this thread…especially the married ones, those married guys guys finally found someone that would lick on 5 or less inches.
id advise a cock extension because thats the leading cause for divorce…when she gets the “what the fuck have i done? he’s hung like a smurf syndrome”!
unless you hooked up with an aveage whore…
then you can be aveage together…happily everafter.

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i can just smell the average size dicks throughout this thread…especially the married ones, those married guys guys finally found someone that would lick on 5 or less inches.
id advise a cock extension because thats the leading cause for divorce…when she gets the “what the fuck have i done? he’s hung like a smurf syndrome”!
unless you hooked up with an aveage whore…
then you can be aveage together…happily everafter.

The gentleman doth protest too much.

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People want to be around good looking people - attractive types are people magnets in social situations.

It does matter, yes. Even in our workplace, when a good looking person is employed the rest of the employees will flock to them and suddenly be best buddies with them and invite them to barbeques and to social outings. When an ordinary, frumpy or downright ugly person starts they usually go unnoticed - except for the occasional smile and nod hello from co-workers. And they always seem to eat their lunch alone in the canteen. Whereas the good lookers are surrounded by lunch mates.

There’s this one guy, kinda plump with greasy curly just-got-out-of-bed hair and crooked teeth, that started over a year ago and still sits alone at lunch. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him speak to anyone. I heard someone say he’s a 45 year old computer game geek or something.

A ‘cute’ guy can do anything and still pull the ladies - no matter how ‘weird’ he acts. Girls will want him and his uniqueness only adds to the charm he exudes.

In high school, most of my friends were ‘cute’ guys and I hated them for it because I was so ignored by the girls. It was a running joke amongst our group that I was the ‘odd one out’ (ie that I was ugly).

A good example is when Gwyneth Paltrow put on a fat suit and walked around New York for three days. She said that by the beginning of the third day she was so depressed and so utterly despondant that she couldn’t get out of bed in the morning and spent most of the day sobbing uncontrollably. She was not used to being treated like that and it gave her a new perspective on how people really are.

We did this in social studies in college. We had a beautiful girl walk around a shopping mall with a hidden camera, trying on clothes and chatting to random strangers.

Then we had an ugly girl come along and do the exact same thing and recorded the results.

When they played back the tape in class, students were actually in tears when they saw how badly the ugly girl was treated by shop staff and the general public.

Sadly, that ‘ugly’ girl actually committed suicide a year later when a guy she had a crush on made fun of her in public. No kidding.

[:(]

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Sadly, that ‘ugly’ girl actually committed suicide a year later when a guy she had a crush on made fun of her in public. No kidding.

[:(]

holy shit. dude. you are fucking with us.

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No it actually happened. About 20 years ago.

This girl who acted as a guinea pig for our social experiment, volunteered herself to show others what she went through on a daily basis. She was really unattractive - short and squat with kind of a piggish face with those cheeks that always seem super red and blemished. If I recall came from a deeply religious background too. She looked like that Susan Boyle woman - y’know the singer - except with fatter cheeks and a piggish nose.

She was nice though and kinda smart. Always the most vocal member of class when it came to social discussions. I think she just got sick of being ‘the friend’ and wanted to connect with a guy but no one would give her a chance or even a second look.

I remember her distinctly because she had come to aid of a girl on campus who was being raped and scared off the attacker. They caught the guy soon after and her photo was in the paper.

It’s all coming back to me.

But she killed herself after some jerk at a party made loud comments to his friends about this girl, not realising she was actually one of the party goers. And it turns out she had a long time crush on this turd.

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Pretty fucking depressing.

I’ve never understood people who treat people like shit based on their looks, creed, race, etc etc. I just don’t fucking get it.

A lot of people say that about themselves; ‘I’m non judgemental’; yet when it boils down to it, they fucking are. Most people are.

I can honestly say, I am not.

If anything, I’m prejudiced in a different way; I find I’ll get talking to someone I can see who’s being ignored, or on the outer. I feel sorry for them; so in some ways, I’m probably just as bad as someone who ignores them.

But, I generally have always hated the ‘popular’ people. That pack mentality which dictates you must belittle someone who is clearly inferior in whatever way that ends with her killing herself to prove your superiority in front of all your friends.

I honestly believe that ‘popular’ ruthless pack mentality I have just described above is what pulls in women.

I’ve seen it; guys will be somewhat aloof, if not complete dicks, but not overtly… they’ll sort of emphasise their superiority in subtle ways… and the women will fall for that.

They defer to it. I’ve played that game before, and it’s fucking rotten. Couldn’t maintain it.

Whereas, I’ve just found not putting on that front… really is met with limited success. But, like I said, ‘being yourself’, leads to a solid relationship, but not the easy fuck.

For example, my last two girlfriends both said ‘I expected you to just pay me out, make fun of me on the first date, or just make me feel stupid. But, you didn’t, you turned out to be ‘real’’. Or words to that effect.

So are things as such today that women actually expect men to put them down, make them look/feel stupid, or exert some sense of superiority that they won’t bother with the normal, nice, humble down to earth guy?

I’m inclined to agree. And I’m honestly not after something that badly that I’m willing to negate everything I stand for (honesty, loyalty, modesty) and act like a total cunt.

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i can just smell the average size dicks …

You like to smell dicks?
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For example, my last two girlfriends both said ‘I expected you to just pay me out, make fun of me on the first date, or just make me feel stupid. But, you didn’t, you turned out to be ‘real’’. Or words to that effect.

So are things as such today that women actually expect men to put them down, make them look/feel stupid, or exert some sense of superiority that they won’t bother with the normal, nice, humble down to earth guy?

Sounds like these young lasses have encountered an unusual number of insecure young males who have lied to them.

Young women like men who are arseholes. After having dated a couple of these jerks, we go through a maturation process and figure out what we are seriously looking for in a mate after the age of 25. We realize that that guy who we initially thought would be boring actually makes a better mate than the jerk.

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For example, my last two girlfriends both said ‘I expected you to just pay me out, make fun of me on the first date, or just make me feel stupid. But, you didn’t, you turned out to be ‘real’’. Or words to that effect.

So are things as such today that women actually expect men to put them down, make them look/feel stupid, or exert some sense of superiority that they won’t bother with the normal, nice, humble down to earth guy?

A lot of young ones (whether it’s from an insecurity based on expectation of males or their own psychological character) are attracted/drawn to dysfunction and “drama”. As Mooney points out it’s not until into mid 20s they leave that behind, mostly (hopefully). A girl I was up and down and all around with before college seemed grand in normal circumstances: popular, upbeat, mature (for her age). She was also quite hot (usually deemed the 2nd hottest girl in her year, by the bastion of discernment that are 18 year old boys). But she messed up so much behind the scenes. She fucked me around but I wasn’t the only one. One time she begged me to hurt her, physically. Horrible. Stopped talking to her for about 5 or more years. Saw her last christmas and she seemed the same on the outside and that made me wary. She wanted to get back in “touch”. No way.

In general though I think relationships between teens and mid 20s are a bit of a waste (apart from the obvious). But then again how can we expect to mature in late 20s onwards if we don’t have experience? I don’t know, just play around don’t take anything too seriously. If we find someone cool, all well and good, if not, don’t sweat it.

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not to give away too much info about myself but having Asperger’s is also a big problem when dating. the only chicks I seem to attract are girls who either a) really fat or b) mentallly defective.

as far as the height thing goes, its not easy. I’m only 5’ 6"

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I generally avoid people who are cunts and who have shitty taste in music.

Just sayin’ is all.

I think a lot of girls have really bad taste in music. its either three types: bad pop-rap, even worse pop-country or bad Nickelback/nu-rock type stuff.

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[reply]i can just smell the average size dicks …

You like to smell dicks?
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You’re a sick man richiee!!

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Young women like men who are arseholes. After having dated a couple of these jerks, we go through a maturation process and figure out what we are seriously looking for in a mate after the age of 25. We realize that that guy who we initially thought would be boring actually makes a better mate than the jerk.

Sadly Mooney, by that age a lot of us become bitter physicists who spend their days chasing that Higgs’ boson rather than tail [;)]

In general though I think relationships between teens and mid 20s are a bit of a waste (apart from the obvious). But then again how can we expect to mature in late 20s onwards if we don’t have experience? I don’t know, just play around don’t take anything too seriously.

Sort of disagree with this, Mick. Learnt a lot from the birds I’ve been with. Some good things, some very bad things.
Besides, until my last ex, I tended to date older. Twice my age on one occasion. Like you said, you need that experience to mature.

My fuck up; took/take things way too seriously.

I think a lot of girls have really bad taste in music. its either three types: bad pop-rap, even worse pop-country or bad Nickelback/nu-rock type stuff.

Taste in music means shit. I dated one girl who liked every band I liked. We had identical tastes in music. Identical senses of humour. People thought we were PERFECT.

But it boils down to values, dunnit?

I couldn’t stand her after less than a year. Different values. I’m the sort, if something goes wrong, to make the best of it. To do something about it. Fix it. If not, try not to make a scene, be stupid.

If I have the money, I’m generous with it. If someone needs a favour, I don’t hesitate nor expect anything in return.

She was the complete and utter opposite.

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I think a lot of girls have really bad taste in music. its either three types: bad pop-rap, even worse pop-country or bad Nickelback/nu-rock type stuff.

Taste in music means shit. I dated one girl who liked every band I liked. We had identical tastes in music. Identical senses of humour. People thought we were PERFECT.

But it boils down to values, dunnit?

I couldn’t stand her after less than a year. Different values. I’m the sort, if something goes wrong, to make the best of it. To do something about it. Fix it. If not, try not to make a scene, be stupid.

If I have the money, I’m generous with it. If someone needs a favour, I don’t hesitate nor expect anything in return.

She was the complete and utter opposite.[/reply]

good point.

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I also dislike people who are overly loud or aggressive and yes I’ve been guilty of that too so there is definitely a flip side…

But you LIKE girls who are sweaty and obese and who probably aren’t too picky as a result of their condition so its easy to sate yourself!
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Ok so in the same thread you are defending “ugly” people and picking on fat people?

The people I am attracted to are basically anyone I’m physically attracted to cuz I’m horny as fuck and my initial attraction is extremely shallow.

But the ones I end up clicking with are outgoing and strong personalities.

And actually in my experience many fat chicks are meek/timid so I think they are usually overwhelmed/intimidated by my personality and they seek other meek/pathetic/boring partners.

And for the record many stereotypically hot girls hit on me. I just don’t give a shit about them but sometimes I make out with them and grope them to use them as status symbols and exploit them in clubs for social status.

And because women love guys who don’t give a shit about them that’s probably half the reason they are into me to begin with. And because they (wrongly) think I’m an interesting person.

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Ok so in the same thread you are defending “ugly” people and picking on fat people?

Not really, People are rude to ugly people, you throw fat on top of that, stereotypically they’re gonna have low self esteem so here comes Void to take advantage of that condition…What else is there to say?.

And for the record many stereotypically hot girls hit on me.

That’s hard to believe since you don’t find too many hot women (Or women in general) that are into the whole JV in training version of Marilyn Manson types, let alone the Varsity version of Manson.

And because they (wrongly) think I’m an interesting person.

Well, at least you know.
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