Imagine you had a kid and for its fifth birthday or whatever you threw the kid a party and invited a bunch of kids and their parents from the neighbourhood.
Now imagine that one of those kids had two “mommies” or two “daddies” and they showed up to the party with their child and right smack bang in the middle of the celebrations (clowns, pony rides, ice cream cake…the works) the same sex couple start holding hands and occasionally kissing.
Would you be uncomfortable? Would you ask them to stop? If there were complaints, would you do something about it? Would you forbid your child from having the child of the same sex couple over to play?
Interesting scenario. Technically the couple have every right to show their love for each other, don’t they? - but would you bow down to social “norms” and stop their public display of intimacy for fear of creating a scene amid the family oriented atmosphere? Do you have a right to ask them to stop? Do you think it is inappropriate in front of young children?
Basically the rule is, if you would tolerate X behavior from a heterosexual couple, you should tolerate X behavior from the homosexual couple. It’s really quite simple.
Public displays of affection at a children’s party are quite distasteful in my opinion, unless it’s a minor thing. But yeah if you would tolerate it from straights then you have to tolerate it from a gay couple. It’s the same thing.
I’m not sure what the point of this thread is unless you have experienced this situation? You should clarify that.
The world is changing. Homosexuals are making the move from second class citizens to status as equals in society.
The question you are posing seems to be rooted in "should I be a progressive in facilitating this change or should I be a conservative and combat this change. Replace “homosexual” with “black” and the answer would seem quite clear, no?
This change is going to be painful and confusing, but like all social upheavals once begun it won’t be undone and it will just get bigger. Those who resist will increasingly be revealed to be bigots, or cowards.
Is it better to shelter the children from this and have them be more confused, causing further problems later on?
And I don’t mean that the gay couple are going at it so to speak, just the odd kiss here and there and holding hands from time to time.
I’m asking what if the other parents are upset? Should you tell the rest of them to get fucked and stop being so 1950’s or do you politely take the gay couple aside and have a quiet word just to keep the peace?
And I don’t mean that the gay couple are going at it so to speak, just the odd kiss here and there and holding hands from time to time.
I’m asking what if the other parents are upset? Should you tell the rest of them to get fucked and stop being so 1950’s or do you politely take the gay couple aside and have a quiet word just to keep the peace?
Would it be rude to do that??
I’ve edited my above post to clarify some points. I think the right thing to do here should be self evident.
“Keeping the peace” is cowardly in my opinion. You may say I am biased, and I certainly am.
Think about it this way: If you had a chance to go back in time, would you rather have been one of the people who abetted segregation, or who stood up and opposed segregation before doing so was totally status quo?
Because what you’re talking about is segregation, pure and simple. (In this case of gays, not of blacks)
Nah, it wouldn’t bother me at all. If it bothered guests at my kid’s party I’d tell them to leave if they didn’t like it.
I remember a party I once attended there was some commotion regarding one of the mothers openly breast feeding her two year old child (yeah some kids feed well into early childhood). Some of the other parents scolded the mother and left with in a huff with their children. But this was twenty years ago so maybe people are a little more open about that sort of thing now. Or maybe not.
But nope, I wouldn’t mind if a gay couple showed affection in front of my kids - although I know many people who would take offence.
I must have landed in bizzaro world because I agree completely with void and half way with olsen… breast feeding yer kids at 2 and beyond is a little to liberal for me.
Late,
grmpysmrf
hate to sound all ‘liberal-er than thou’ but, really? let them hold hands, fuck, let one of them sit in the other one’s lap like most couples do at gatherings. whatever. who cares. and yeah, if one of the other parents got bothered by it, i would tell them succinctly to leave, and take their kid.
people are people, and people love other people. no one has the right to set up arbitrary rules about who gets to be in love with who.
but as for breast-feeding… fucking gross. hahaha. i mean, its all fine and good if there is one of those blanket cover things that some mothers use when in public, but if there is just a popped out boob and a kid allover it, that is kinda… well… ew. i dont just whip out my dick and start peeing anytime i have to.
…and half way with olsen… breast feeding yer kids at 2 and beyond is a little to liberal for me.
My parents were establishment hippies. My younger sister and I spent part of our childhood growing up in a commune. Plenty of eye opening things there. Parents in the commune were extremely “liberal” in the way they raised their children. Some of it was fucked up. We were taught that sex was just as normal as eating and was a “beautiful thing” and that your body wasn’t meant to be hid from public. Sex was everywhere as was pot. Kids under the age of 13 rarely if ever wore clothing - we just walked around the grounds of the estate completely nude. Kids breastfed up til the age of 10 or 11 - and not just from their own parent!! Weird and fucked up time.
So, breastfeeding a two year old at a party seems pretty tame compared to what I’ve seen. Compare it to watching people of all ages openly fellate each other or have group sex at camping holidays. and you’ll see what I mean. I’ve seen that kind of shit -not to brag but…you can see what I mean.
Anyway, I wouldn’t be alarmed if some woman started breastfeeding in front of me. Or if a gay couple started kissing at a party.
So, breastfeeding a two year old at a party seems pretty tame compared to what I’ve seen. Compare it to watching people of all ages openly fellate each other or have group sex at camping holidays. and you’ll see what I mean. I’ve seen that kind of shit -not to brag but…you can see what I mean.
crystal clear!!
Anyway, I wouldn’t be alarmed if some woman started breastfeeding in front of me.
yeah I don’t care either. I actually prefer she not be covered while breast feeding, makes it easier for me to spy mommy’s nipple.
Or if a gay couple started kissing at a party.
That’s no big deal.
yeah I don’t care either unless it’s two hot chicks then I will take perfect mental notes that I will file away for future masturbatory reference!
Late,
grmpysmrf
We had a couple of lesbian women who lived across the street. One had a daughter and later another baby but I am not sure how that happened. Anyway, we didn’t invite them to our daughters birthday party because we had some old fogey’s attending that might be weirded out. I’m not going to make any excuses to say that it was the right thing to do.
no apologies. you got to do what’s best in your environment and probably inviting said couple may have done more harm than good to your living space.
Late,
grmpysmrf
Nothing wrong with gays showing affection in public. But there’s uptight people who would have a problem with even straight people showing affection in public.
Nothing wrong with gays showing affection in public. But there’s uptight people who would have a problem with even straight people showing affection in public.
If the party’s at my house it isn’t public. I don’t need some jackasses coming over and groping each other. If they wanna play grabass or stick their tongues in each others’ throats they can walk down to Denny’s and make out behind the dumpsters like decent human beings.
[reply]Nothing wrong with gays showing affection in public. But there’s uptight people who would have a problem with even straight people showing affection in public.
If the party’s at my house it isn’t public. I don’t need some jackasses coming over and groping each other. If they wanna play grabass or stick their tongues in each others’ throats they can walk down to Denny’s and make out behind the dumpsters like decent human beings.[/reply]
I don’t know about ass grabbing and tongue swallowing haha!! But like peligro said a simple kiss or holding hands is fine by me.
Parents in the commune were extremely “liberal” in the way they raised their children. Some of it was fucked up. We were taught that sex was just as normal as eating and was a “beautiful thing” and that your body wasn’t meant to be hid from public. Sex was everywhere as was pot. Kids under the age of 13 rarely if ever wore clothing - we just walked around the grounds of the estate completely nude. Kids breastfed up til the age of 10 or 11 - and not just from their own parent!! Weird and fucked up time.
So, breastfeeding a two year old at a party seems pretty tame compared to what I’ve seen. Compare it to watching people of all ages openly fellate each other or have group sex at camping holidays.
The fuck?
What were your parents “doing” when all this was taking place?! Did they take part in that shit?
Didn’t you tell me once that whole shebang out in the sticks got shut down by the cops?