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Wolf Eyes: “Burned Mind”

Awesome man! Really hope you enjoy it. Listening to that record for the first time was mind blowing. Literally changed my entire outlook on music and inspired me probably more than anything has before or since (not that what they were doing was revolutionary—I just had never heard such a delicate balance of noise and structure before…“dumb” brutal heaviness and “academic” experimentation…and so dark and unique). A real masterpiece. One of the many acts who revitalized Industrial music in the 00’s. I get goosebumps thinking about.

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I thought you loved that album?

Didn’t you throw a hisy fit when everyone started bagging it?

What don’t you like about it anyway?

(and I’m honstly curious and not taking the piss)

Well I’m not sure if your post is serious or not. I don’t remember throwing a “hissy fit”. I think the album is not as bad as people were making it out to be. I probably wouldn’t have criticized it on this board. Around here I tend to be supportive of Manson and keep the negativity to myself.

I just think they lost the songs are a bit bland and too “straightforward rock”. Twiggy is not the best guitar player. He plays the instrument like a bassist would. Good rhythm stuff but the leads are weak.

The programming/electronic end of the spectrum wasn’t too impressive. I don’t know how much freedom Vrenna was given, but I missed Pogo on keyboards. If anything I expected some insane programming from someone from the NIN camp, but it was quite generic and dull.

The themes and lyrics were too maudlin, even by Manson standards. A 40 year old goth pimp whining about the various cunts in his life doesn’t make for the best theme. And when Manson is in his “I’m dangerous” American boogeyman mode, it feels forced.

in his defense, I imagine it would be difficult to come up with topics to write about when you’re 40 and have been a successful rock star half your life. If the women in his life are his main concern, then he should write about them.

It’s easy to be some douche like Fennesz, hiding behind a computer making fart noises and everyone thinks you’re a genius. It’s harder to be someone like Manson who really made some great statements and had something to say and now his lifestyle is just not relevant to most of his fans, he’s out of touch, and it’s tough to connect with him.

At least it’s better than Rob Zombie, repeating his stupid mindless Halloween csmpy bullshit that is meaningless and the same cliche riffs and fist pumping crap.

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El Vez

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Who else is on the new Zombie cd? Did Charlie Clouser work w/him again?

As far as the last manson cd, it’s adequite. Honestly though, it’s a case of “if I wasn’t already a fan of the artist I doubt i’d have bought it” His last cd that I really listened to for more than a week or 2 was Golden Ago of the Grotesque. His whole singing about the women of his life just doesn’t work for post shock rocker. Even if he’s putting her in his videos and killing her or whatever. I don’t know how much leeway vrenna was given to do things on that last cd. But judging from his previous solo stuff It’d seem like his imput was minimal. Manson had too much wood over working with twiggy again probably to let the other guys contribute. And what happened to Ginger? Remember when he first joined the band he was kinda, I don’t know, like muscular and now he’s this like walking stick figure. I think twiggy never should have came back though, it WOULD have been cool to see gidget rejoin before he died. I know him and brian were on good terms again, and his style certainly shined through in the early manson albums.

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Filth Pig sounds filthy at 7am

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Who else is on the new Zombie cd? Did Charlie Clouser work w/him again?

The creative team is just Zombie and John 5. It could use a little Clouser or Lohner to make it more rockdustrial, IMO.

And what happened to Ginger?

He’s still in, but he has no creative input. He did a cool remix a few years ago, actually. I think he’s probably got some musical talent, but Manson doesn’t let him use it.

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The creative team is just Zombie and John 5. It could use a little Clouser or Lohner to make it more rockdustrial, IMO.

Yes. Desperately.

And what happened to Ginger?

He’s still in, but he has no creative input. He did a cool remix a few years ago, actually. I think he’s probably got some musical talent, but Manson doesn’t let him use it.[/reply]

He played piano on “Into the Fire” and did all drums for ‘The High End of Low’. I agree he needs more input on the writing side or at least let him do some cool fills and stuff like on the bridge of “Doll Dagga Buzz Buzz Ziggetty Zag” from ‘Golden Age of Grotesque’.

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it WOULD have been cool to see gidget rejoin before he died. I know him and brian were on good terms again, and his style certainly shined through in the early manson albums.

Gidget was a heroine addict and way too unstable to be allowed back in. Manson was right to kick him out to begin with. His reappearance in the “(s)AINT” was an unexpected and fitting surprise, given the video’s theme. I think it was appropriate to end it there.

Oh, and calling Manson “Brian” is really foolish.

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Oh, and calling Manson “Brian” is really foolish.

oh god forbid i called him brian. not like he doesn’t get called alot worse by people around here. I tend to alternate between brian, manson, mr manson, rev manson, omega, arch deluxe, etc. etc. and the list of his names goes on.

and by asking what happened to ginger, i meant his appearance

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Oh, and calling Manson “Brian” is really foolish.

oh god forbid i called him brian. not like he doesn’t get called alot worse by people around here. I tend to alternate between brian, manson, mr manson, rev manson, omega, arch deluxe, etc. etc. and the list of his names goes on.

and by asking what happened to ginger, i meant his appearance[/reply]

I just think when people say “Brian” it’s like an attempt to debunk him. But really you only know him because the character of “Marilyn Manson” that he created and that is his chosen identity now even among his closest friends. I never could figure out why in particular Manson gets called “Brian” so much and many other musicians/artists with stage names don’t have that issue.

As for Ginger’s appearance, I never noticed a change. Here is a photo from ‘Antichrist Superstar’ era (guy on far right) and he looks pretty much the same as he does now:

and modern photo:

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^ That is the gayest drummer ever

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^ That is the gayest drummer ever

Yeah fuck faggots! Right bro?

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No, because then what would make me the gayest drummer’s fucker.

I have nothing against gays, but I don’t see how they should be immune to slagging.

Funny story. Today as I entered the jacks in college I was confronted by two guys eating the face off each other right beside the cubicles, about 3 metres to the left a maintenance man was breaking up a toilet singing and whistling away to himself totally oblivious to the gayness beside him.

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No, because then what would make me the gayest drummer’s fucker.

I have nothing against gays, but I don’t see how they should be immune to slagging.

Funny story. Today as I entered the jacks in college I was confronted by two guys eating the face off each other right beside the cubicles, about 3 metres to the left a maintenance man was breaking up a toilet singing and whistling away to himself totally oblivious to the gayness beside him.

How do you know it wouldn’t make you the gayest drummer’s fuckee?

Besides, even if you were the fucker, you could close your eyes and pretend it’s a woman’s asshole. He’s so slender as it is…

Then you’d still be totally in the clear, bro!

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[reply]No, because then what would make me the gayest drummer’s fucker.

I have nothing against gays, but I don’t see how they should be immune to slagging.

Funny story. Today as I entered the jacks in college I was confronted by two guys eating the face off each other right beside the cubicles, about 3 metres to the left a maintenance man was breaking up a toilet singing and whistling away to himself totally oblivious to the gayness beside him.

How do you know it wouldn’t make you the gayest drummer’s fuckee?

Besides, even if you were the fucker, you could close your eyes and pretend it’s a woman’s asshole. He’s so slender as it is…

Then you’d still be totally in the clear, bro![/reply]

A hole is a hole, lets go fuck some sheep?

Nah. Besides, his male moans would be off putting.

Not everyone harbours gayness. But to each his own… hole.

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Oh, and calling Manson “Brian” is really foolish.

I bet brian’s mom and dad still call him “brian”
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grmpysmrf

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Anything to do with Marilyn Manson is insanely gay…including their fans.

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[reply]Oh, and calling Manson “Brian” is really foolish.

I bet brian’s mom and dad still call him “brian”
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grmpysmrf[/reply]

No. They don’t. But what does that have to do with anything? He’s not a mediocre pathetic peace of shit civilian leading a boring existence like you or me. Get over it.

He’s a rich drunk coked out bloated has-been goth leading an awesome debauched existence with a ring of hot chicks that he pimps, nigga.

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that pic of him playing is from the MA tour

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[reply][reply]Oh, and calling Manson “Brian” is really foolish.

I bet brian’s mom and dad still call him “brian”
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grmpysmrf[/reply]

No. They don’t. But what does that have to do with anything?[/reply]

you said calling him “Brian” was foolish so I was making the point that it’s not always foolish. Sure they may call him Marilyn in public, but I bet when he’s over for dinner it’s, “hey brian take your dinner plate to the kitchen… when you’re done licking it.”[cool]
point! grmpysmrf!
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grmpysmrf