Someone over on youtube has posted a couple of videos from the Houston 1987 show @ Numbers. Pretty cool to see the scaled down lineup, and barb-wire stage.
All Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13RmXRC2gKc
Over The Shoulder
nice.
what’s the line-up here?
offhand it looks like Ward & Barker, but the other 2?
Wow… that version of All Day is significantly different than the '86 version that was up here a while back. I like it. I don’t suppose anyone has an audio file of this version…?
nice.
what’s the line-up here?
offhand it looks like Ward & Barker, but the other 2?
Its actually Al, Paul, and Bill Reiflin on drums. One of the other two mystery men is probably Buzz McCoy of TKK fame. I remember him mentioning once that he was part of one of the tours on keyboards. I think you can see him in the Stigmata video dancing. Its most likely him behind Paul playing the Fairlight. As to the other guy not sure.
dude…score. OTS is awesome!
wow, those two songs ROCKED. loved it. thanks for posting! especially liked Over the Shoulder…Al trying to look hardcore with his new buzz cut but still singing the high notes!
Nice find! Time to dust off Twitch now! OTS is easily the best of the two imo, but both are amazing songs to begin with. Very, very different.
Looks about the same as when I saw them in 87 except for the music.
Yeah I remember you mentioning how shocked you were to hear songs you didn’t recognize, stuff that would eventually come out as LORAH.
Cool as FUCK, dude. I love the whole awkwardly awesome transitional phase of Ministry.
I thought this version of All Day was boring. OTS is always cool.
Also, he looks particularly Hispanic in these videos.
i actually like this version of all day. it’s more menacing and venomous, the sparse arrangement in the verses and groaning vocals contribute to that (unlike both remixes of the song which aren’t exactly too different).
as for the videos - FUCKIN’ AWESOME
wow, ots is brutal! i never realised ministry were actually industrial lol.
Al from this era could have fronted a gang like this: (see attachment, sorry… primitive computer)
yes YES YES YES!!!
Outstanding! Thanks for the link.
Al was pure genius back then. Is it safe to say that Trent Reznor borrowed heavily from this version of Ministry? Even Al’s presence on stage remind me of the early NIN tours.
These videos also appear to match some of the photos on the CD booklet from the “Flashback” CD with Ogre. I think that was 1987 performance as well.
Trent definitely borrowed from Al. It’s pretty evident he he borrowed from both Ministry and Puppy up until TDS. By 94, he started doing his own thing. But you can easily listen to the Broken EP and know flat out that it’s very ministry inspired.
yea reznor stated lorah and twitch as great influences. you can even hear some of the tmiattt/psalm in nin’s broken.
I heard an interview from around the TDS thing where he came right out and said he was a huge Ministry fan, but he didn’t want to get pigeonholed like them to where he could never get away with doing a “soft” song.
trent would never in his lifetime do a ballad–the dreaded coin in the pocket with most bands still dealing with labels.
if “soft” means that, uh…no.
These videos also appear to match some of the photos on the CD booklet from the “Flashback” CD with Ogre. I think that was 1987 performance as well.
Well, it’s labeled as the 1987 show at Visage, but that date’s wrong. The Flashback With Ogre show was the 1988 DC show. Ogre wasn’t on the 1987 tour at all.