And it looks like it’s going to be called “The Last Sucker”. The “See You LaTOUR” is sure to follow. Those pathetic whiners still holding out for dated synthcore and songs about Discordians, self loathing, panayama, Beamtenherrschaft, nursing homes, mysticism, despondency, the Yorda Linn Foundation, and hotrods…please exit stage left, and have a nice life! [laugh]
Well, after Houses, he said there’d be two more Ministry, one more Revco, and one more Lard. I’m betting the Lard project got left in the dust, though.
Ok, I have somewhat mixed feelings about this… It´s sad that Ministry stops to release albums, but then again the “Bush”-theme is getting pretty lame and boring. Musically they´ve been good trash-industrial albums, but the theme is just… blah…
Btw, on a fairly recent finnish interview, on Inferno-magazine (www.inferno.fi), Al said that after last Ministry he´ll be concentrating on other projects, making music on other band-name than Ministry, since he thought that Ministry doesn´t have a point to exist after Bush gets out of the white house. And he said that the other projects maybe Lard, RevCo and the 666 Shooters, or not.
But then again Al is famous for the bs he says in the interviews about future projects.
And i´m just wondering, what the FUCK was the point of Ministry when making WS, Twitch, LORAH, TMIATTTT, Psalm 69, FP, DSOTS and Ani? Get the democrats back in power and Al will make better Ministry again would be my humble wish…
when making:
WS - al was young and naive, and needed money so he “sold out” as he said
Twitch - he was learning to program his Fairlight
LORAH - learned Fairlight for some tracks, the rest was dug out from old times
TMIATTTT - wow lots of guitars, al was high probably
Psalm 69 - it has NWO!! the first bush themed song!
FP - he was high again
DSOTS - uh, high again?
Ani - dunno why. maybe a little high?
[reply]And it looks like it’s going to be called “The Last Sucker”. The “See You LaTOUR” is sure to follow. Those pathetic whiners still holding out for dated synthcore and songs about Discordians, self loathing, panayama, Beamtenherrschaft, nursing homes, mysticism, despondency, the Yorda Linn Foundation, and hotrods…please exit stage left, and have a nice life! [laugh]
I thought you were joking…until I followed the link.
It just keeps getting worse and worse doesn’t it.
‘The Last Sucker’? Could that be anymore lame and uninspiring?
I honestly don’t mind. The “Bush-themed” albums seem to be the ones that the MAJORITY of fans (including us on here) seem to like. I’m glad that he’s going to make at least one more Ministry album though… I’m just hoping that his “swansong” will be everything that he can possibly make it be. I have complete faith in Al’s ability to make the last album something that we will all be quite amazed with. As for it being called “The Last Sucker”, I seriously doubt that is what the album will be called. It’s a bit premature for an album name and Al throws tidbits of information like that around all the time.
maybe AL’s talkin’ about releasing the last in the Bush bashing themes. It’s says trilogy. He could take a break and then do a Lard, Buck Satan and maybe Ministry release…let’s say over like the next five years.
It’s about time, really. Why even bother doing another album if it’s going to be the same speed metal-type crap as the last two (which it likely will be)? Call it a day after this tour, find some genuinely creative collaborators who aren’t mere metal merchants, and give us something substantive to listen to. This is all hardly bad news.
Which do you think will happen first – Al becoming a History professor (remember when he was going on and on about that a couple years back?), or Al releasing a truly great addition to the canon of work he established up through and including Animositisomina?
It’s about time, really. Why even bother doing another album if it’s going to be the same speed metal-type crap as the last two (which it likely will be)? Call it a day after this tour, find some genuinely creative collaborators who aren’t mere metal merchants, and give us something substantive to listen to.
Amen.
I think this is what the majority of people here are thinking. This whole speed metal with samples thingy is an absolute bore. And now you’re telling us there’s to be a third.
Sounds like Al is creatively lacking. He has spent the best part of the last three or four years ranting about how much he hates the president. Boring. Tell us something we don’t know, Mr J. How about feeding us something a little more challenging. I thought Ministry never made the same album twice - that they were all about pushing boundaries. Now it’s the same thing over and over.
What a sad way for such a creative force to bow out.
While I mostly agree with all of your sentiments, I have to admit that I’m at least a BIT excited at the prospect of one more Ministry album. Yeah, it’s become a joke of itself - derivative of the glory days, while not actually capturing a single bit of the feel of those wonderful albums. Still, though, I snap up all the new material as soon as I can - I am a fanboy, and am absolutely not ashamed of that fact. I’m just as pissed about this current administration as Al is, and I wholeheartedly agree with his sentiments. It’s true that I think perhaps three or four songs on the subject would have had much more impact than three whole albums, but if this is what Al feels like doing, there’s not much chance of us stopping him.
I’m just sad that he seems to be buying into the whole thing about how he “only writes good music when there’s a Bush in office.” It’s nice to know that Al listens to his fans. It’s just a shame that most of his fans are smeg-heads. Most people here excepted, of course, but check out all the other online Ministry groups. Smeg-heads, one and all.
Whatever, though. I’ll buy it, and so will most of you. So let’s not slag it TOO badly before it’s even been recorded!
As a matter of fact, perhaps we can have some influence over this, after all. I’ve already got my backstage passes fro Cincinatti, and my pre-show party passes for Colombus…perhaps if enough of us slip in a few words here and there to the effect of “You know, I really like what you’re doing, but…” then we’ll get at least a few tracks that aren’t Bush-oriented. It’s worth a shot, yeah?
I wish I could get excited about a new Ministry album. It’s not as if I want to be pissed at the direction Al seems to be taking. I wish he could make another album as good as if not better than the classic ‘trilogy’. I would like nothing better.
But it ain’t gonna happen if the last one is yet another thrash metal diatribe on the ‘evils’ of the Bush empire. Seriously Al, how about treading some new ground ‘musically’? Something more inspired, not just verse chorus verse guitar solo verse…etc. Dull.
The sad thing is I know he’s capable of better. He has done better. He should do better. Doesn’t he want to do better?
If Al really is serious about this being the last proper Ministry (and who knows if he really is) I could sorta see him doing an “all-encompassing” record. I mean, RGB did reintroduce a few electronic elements, its not so much of a stretch to think that he could work in a few more. That’s how Ministry stood out in the first place after all.
However, I could also see it also being another thrash-fest.
Its unbelievable how much venom people are spitting at Al on this board these days… If you dont like what he’s doing now, dont listen to it.
Personally I think Al is basically good at whatever direction he chooses to go in, and in the case of RGB, he pulled off the industrial-thrash thing perfectly. You should never judge music by what you imagine it should be, its all about how the artist succeeded at doing the thing he set out to do…
This is why I have such high respect for Ministry. Whatever the direction they overtook, they always did a damn fine job at it. Not all of it coincides with my tastes but so what - that is no reason for me to write post after post of negative comments.
Al sucks now. Ministry sucks now. That title is lame. Guitars are lame. Samples suck. I want Paul back - he’ll save us all. I want Ministry to do a powernoise album. I want Ministry to do an album that’s completely inaccesible to everyone except me and my close friends. It makes me feel superior to say that the least popular Ministry albums are the only good ones they’ve ever done.
This has to be a joke. If it is somehow true they should just bundle Al into an old folks home once Masterbatour is finished and let him reminisce about the time he was part of a great band up till 2004. Paul must be laughing his balls off at this!