The Good, The Bad And The Uncomfortable

I know what you’re thinking. Even before you clicked on this topic and rolled your eyes in disbelief, your collective minds were already made up.

You hate me and there’s no denying it.

It’s ok though - be frank. I like frank. I’ve always liked him even though he once forced me…hmmmm, best not bring that old chestnut up.

Don’t suppress your emotions. It’s unnatural.

You hate me.

You hate me like Hitler hated gypsies. Like Simon hated Garfunkel. Like Jesus hated cripples. Like The Waltons hated John Boy.

Having something like that hanging over yr head, I’ll not kid around, it’s a weird place to be in. But I’ve made my peace with that hatred. I nurture it. Caress it like an old, wrinkly friend. Feed and dress its wounds. Whisper sweet musings into its open ear.

But let’s be honest - there’s one amongst you that hates me most of all. One whose hatred rises like bile in his throat at the mere mention of my very name. One whose very mission in life is to see me hang by the giblet, for the sport of my own crows.

We all know who that person is.

His name is Grmpysmrf.

Face it. At some point we’ve all wanted a piece of this fella. To say that this guy wields an opinion like Thor wields a hammer or Jodie Foster wields a set of balls is one massive understatement. When it comes to a point, his holier than thou stance and merciless gaze will take no prisoners. Will offer no respite. I’m sure at some point in time we’ve all felt his wrath rain down upon us like a vengeful deity unhappy with his people and their godless ways.

To say that he’s left his mark upon this assembled throng of like minded ne’er do wells and social misfits is like saying Kurt Cobain was a bony armed lollygagger.

It is obvious and needs not be overstated.

So with the benefit of hindsight and the fear of reprisal a distant memory I am left asking - what now? What now, Grmpysmrf. We are at a crossroads here and it now begs the question - what sort of man are you? A man of conviction? A man who seeks justice? Righteousness?
Do pleas of mercy fall upon deaf ears, Grmpy? Can you walk away from a hollow victory.

I for one would like to return to the fold. To walk among you as a brother and like minded fool. But whether this is possible now remains to be seen. Second chances and good intentions oft go astray - just look what happened with - dare I say - Mel Gibson, when he begged to be given another chance.

That’s right - we were given The Beaver and Get The Gringo as reward for our compassion. And to this day it still leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

I know there are those among you who would rather see me suffer, like a parched and neglected dog in a city street, scratching for a meal.

I assure you that’s a normal, dignified emotional response, so put away your shame.

But I need to hear it from Grmpy. Without his proverbial nod of approval I cannot continue and expect clemency. Grmpy alone must set the terms of my reinstatement and no other. The reasons why this must be and known to him and I alone as we alone have walked this path together.

They say that blood is thicker than water. Maybe that is so. But honey is thicker than blood and toffee is thicker still. So I guess whoever said that had no freakin’ clue what he was on about. Nor am I sure why I brought it up in the first place. Maybe I’m hungry? Anyway, it doesn’t matter. What matters here is something else. What that something else might be I either don’t know or did know at some point and have now forgotten.

Which is a shame seeing as I wanted to end this on an emotionally stirring point.

So instead, I’ll ask you this - What the hell did Anne Frank do that was so “courageous”?? I’m not having a go at her or anything I just can’t for the life of me understand why she’s so highly regarded in 20th century history. What did she even do? She hid? And wrote about it? in her diary. Unbelievable. She also wrote a whole lot of stuff about her family which wasn’t particularly nice. Which is weird seeing as they were all in the same pickle together. Lots of people at that time didn’t hide from the Nazis and write about it in their diaries. No, they fought the good fight and went down swinging. Yet history has either ignored them entirely or reduced them to a mere footnote.

It’s all very confusing.

Oh yeah, sorry:

Whaddaya say Grmpy? Shall I come back? Is all forgiven. Or has hatred crippled and twisted your very heart?

Face it. At some point we’ve all wanted a piece of this fella. To say that this guy wields an opinion like Thor wields a hammer or Jodie Foster wields a set of balls is one massive understatement. When it comes to a point, his holier than thou stance and merciless gaze will take no prisoners. Will offer no respite. I’m sure at some point in time we’ve all felt his wrath rain down upon us like a vengeful deity unhappy with his people and their godless ways.

HAHA and yet “they all hate you”
probably because even though “I wield my opinion like Thor weilds his hammer” (whatever the fuck that simile is supposed to mean) I’ve never been dishonest or deceptive to this good bunch of people.

So with the benefit of hindsight and the fear of reprisal a distant memory I am left asking - what now? What now, Grmpysmrf. We are at a crossroads here and it now begs the question - what sort of man are you? A man of conviction? A man who seeks justice? Righteousness?
Do pleas of mercy fall upon deaf ears, Grmpy? Can you walk away from a hollow victory.

WTF are you talking about? I didn’t banish you. I don’t care if you still post here or not. I’m not celebrating my “victory,” As a matter of fact, you haven’t even been discussed here. You’ve pretty much been forgotten. About the most time you’ve gotten was when Sean and I were talking before the ministry show and I said something to the affect of “Curious now that Peligro, scaramouch or whatever the fuck he’s calling himself has disappeared from the board so has the rest of the Australian continent. What does that suggest about the rest of the “Aussies” on the board?” He said, no shit, huh? how many accounts did he have?

Whaddaya say Grmpy? Shall I come back? Is all forgiven. Or has hatred crippled and twisted your very heart?

I don’t hate you. I never have. I don’t hate anybody, really. Except for perhaps greedy ass republicans and stupid conservatives that vote against theirs and everyone elses best interests… and specifically George W and Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld, wolfowitz, condi rice, Tom ridge. The Kock brothers, Wayne Lapierre… most of the Fox news anchors… … [:|] well I guess there are quite a few that I hate. but nobody on the board mind you (no, not even you Prologue and DJpon3 even though you fall into one or more of those categories referenced above.)

I don’t care if you post here. its not my board. I just post here.
BUT what would be nice…
I would like to see you (if you are going to indeed come back) change your name back to peligro, 'cause that’s who you are here. Cop to all of the sock puppet accounts that you have/had. including Blue Velvet and Jizzwad if that is indeed the truth.
and answer this specifically…

Why did you admit to it now? About 10 years ago I called you out as being the same person. I said I graded papers for a living and you and Olsen, specifically, read like the same person when you post. You then took to your sock puppet accounts to mock me and my accusation “I’m a Teacher bla bla bla bla. You’re a stupid teacher, You don’t know what you’re talkign about, etc etc.” and I let it go. All you had to do was pull the same stunt again. why did you roll this time? What broke you?

Ok, girls. That’s enough. You have both been placed in time out.

I’ll try and take a straightforward and positive approach…

I’m not sure why Peligro posts from multiple accounts. with that said, there could be a couple of reasons. maybe he’s dealing with a mental illness and it happens to come out onto the internet as well (multiple personality disorder for instance) .

otherwise, it could be attention lacking elsewhere in his life, and he seeks it here.

or, maybe it’s just someone who gets a kick out of starting shit with people under different usernames on a small, tight-knit message board. that would be quite unfortunate if it were the case. I mean c’mon, we’re all adults here, what’s there to hide?

either way, if it’s any of the above, there is help available, if you choose to seek it/already are dealing with it. for the sake of your sanity, I wish you the best.

I like Peligro.
I haven’t been able to finish his 20,000 word manifesto this time around because as soon as I got to where he confirmed that he was back to cry about Grmpysmrf again I completely lost interest.

I wish he’d just come back and be his fun hateful weird self instead of boring us to death with more emo faggitry.

I like Peligro.
I haven’t been able to finish his 20,000 word manifesto this time around because as soon as I got to where he confirmed that he was back to cry about Grmpysmrf again I completely lost interest.

It’s actually not too bad. It’s not completely cry-baby-ish. even funny in spots when he starts rambling about blood and honey (he rambles on purpose, at least I hope it is)
In all honesty I’m a bit weirded out that he seems to have put so much time into this post to me after so much time away. I don’t spend my time thinking about him. I’d really forgotten about him until I mentioned it to sean at the show, but then I forgot about him and his nonsense again until he just posted here tonight. His post reads like he’s been suffering away from the board and if I may be concieted for a moment, thinking way too much about me. creepy.

Scaramouche, just stick to doing the Fandango under thunderbolts of lightening that are very, very frightening…

This is soooo gay…

TLDR

I’ve nothing against anyone on here, sometimes someone will annoy me a bit, but i don’t think about it afterwards and hope nobody would dwell on anything i say. After all, we’re all just random people on the internet who share an interest in Ministry, and that’s the extent of it.

I must admit that while i was reading your post, i was imagining it in the voices of various classic WWF wrestlers, i reminded me slightly of some of the old promos they used to do for upcoming bouts. [;)]

Anyway, no emnity on my part to anyone who lurks on here.

You suck, Grumpy. I went back and read it. What a waste. I was kind of hoping to read about some of the good and bad.

Instead I just see a whole lot of UNCOMFORTABLE.

Grumpy’s kind of got a point about Peligrolsen’s timing on this board. He seems to pop up to cry about us (though now it’s only Grumpy, so I guess I’m not as newsworthy as I used to be) not in response to anything, but after period’s of extended silence. Are we to assume that he spends those off-months brooding and planning his comebacks, or is this a scheduled seasonal thing? Like he just wakes up to his Outlook calendar alarms popping up on his phone . . . “Oh, Damn! It’s already May 26? Time for my quarterly emo tantrum.”

Just stop it, Bro. Honestly, I gave you mad props for an amazingly great and successful usage of the Olsen character, complete with hidden easter eggs (gay porn, etc.) and whatnot. But now that the wizard behind the curtain has been exposed, there’s no joy for us to be given the same 'ol schtick.

I don’t know which “you” is the “real you” or if the various characters are just different aspects of you. And I don’t really care. They were all kind of fun and interesting in their own ways.

But your neverending boner for Grumpy . . . just let it die. Grumpy never hated you. He thought your Olsen character was a giant douche, but consider that a compliment. You played a douchey character and it got perceived as a douche.

I don’t think any of us give a flying fudge if you’re rich, poor, black, white, single, married, gay, straight, or any of that crap. In fact, it’s damn near impossible to keep any of it straight anyway.

We’re all glad to have you hear, I think, but the emo bullshit is way tired. You’re like this little kid that keeps poking the big guy and then gets slammed on the concrete (only to scream victim in subsequent interviews).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isfn4OxCPQs

By the way . . . one final note. I don’t know if this is actually important to you or not, but regarding your believability and credibility on the board ---- we’re ALL just going to continue you’re full of crap about EVERYTHING and give zero credence to any of your posts unless you eventually make an attempt to “be real”. Come clean about your silly games and characters (some of us will even give you props for it, I should note), come clean about who you are, post a few REAL photos of yourself, and realize that you are just a regular dude in a (virtual) room with a bunch of other regular dudes. We’re all quirky and different, but I’ve yet to meet anyone that is vicious or vindictive or anything.

Whether you want to join us or not is up to you. And whether you want to be welcomed as a guy who is ready to make a new start or have us roll our eyes while muttering, “Uggghh, not THIS again” is also entirely up to you.

…make an attempt to “be real”. …post a few REAL photos of yourself, and realize that you are just a regular dude in a (virtual) room with a bunch of other regular dudes. We’re all quirky and different, but I’ve yet to meet anyone that is vicious or vindictive or anything. Whether you want to join us or not is up to you.

^ This.

TLDR

You suck, Grumpy. I went back and read it. What a waste.

Sorry. I thought it had a few chuckle moments.

It’s ok though - be frank. I like frank. I’ve always liked him

Well, yeah. Frank’s an artistic GENIUS, Man!!!

HAHA and yet “they all hate you”
probably because even though “I wield my opinion like Thor weilds his hammer” (whatever the fuck that simile is supposed to mean) I’ve never been dishonest or deceptive to this good bunch of people.

<wipes away tear>

<sips coffee>

About the most time you’ve gotten was when Sean and I were talking before the ministry show and I said something to the affect of “Curious now that Peligro, scaramouch or whatever the fuck he’s calling himself has disappeared from the board so has the rest of the Australian continent. What does that suggest about the rest of the “Aussies” on the board?” He said, no shit, huh? how many accounts did he have?

How many accounts? Two. I cannot account for anyone else here or why they may or may not post anymore. I have a feeling that it’s because you labelled ALL the Aussies with the same brush. Maybe they’re afraid that if they post they’ll be ridiculed for being false. But that’s just a theory.

Is it strange that all the Aussies deserted after shit went down in February? Yes. But I can assure you I had nothing to do with it. Believe it or not (and I’m guessing it will be NOT since you can never, ever be proven “wrong”) there were only ever two and in the beginning only one. But that’s a longer, more complicated story.

I do know that Amlux (one of the other Aussies that I’m assuming you think I am) was evicted from his house and went to live in Tasmania with relatives back in April. I only know that because he emailed me. Why he hasn’t posted here is anyone’s guess. I haven’t heard back from him. Hope he’s ok. Evil Dildo I know is really busy working on projects in the music world. Blue Velvet? Jizzwad? Nothing to do with me. Was Jizzwad even Aussie? I thought he was American. Blue Velvet was an arse. Couldn’t stand her. Only other Aussie I know of here is Ambulance. Once again, that’s not me. But go ahead and assume otherwise if you like.

Why did I fess up to it eventually? Difficult to say as there are other factors involved that you have not guessed at and I’m not really willing to say here.

If you’d like, I can PM you (more or less) what went down behind the scenes - but there’s absolutely NO point doing so at all if you’re just going to screw your face up and call everything I write a “lie”. But I won’t discuss it on the board because there are other parties involved. And as these other parties are not here to defend themselves - then it’s a no go from me. At least, not publicly.

There are no other accounts that I am responsible for. I say that in front of the entire board and stand by it.

All jokes aside - there’s more to the Olsen / Peligro thing than you know. Actually a lot more. WAY more in fact. Some of your “assumptions” about me/us were smack bang right on. Others were way off the mark.

I don’t hate you. I never have. I don’t hate anybody, really. Except for perhaps greedy ass republicans and stupid conservatives that vote against theirs and everyone elses best interests… and specifically George W and Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld, wolfowitz, condi rice, Tom ridge. The Kock brothers, Wayne Lapierre… most of the Fox news anchors… …

I’m never ever going to change this about you in any way. So please continue…

(no, not even you Prologue and DJpon3 even though you fall into one or more of those categories referenced above.)

I don’t even know what that means.

I don’t care if you post here. its not my board. I just post here…

Woohoo!!!

I would like to see you (if you are going to indeed come back) change your name back to peligro, 'cause that’s who you are here. Cop to all of the sock puppet accounts that you have/had. including Blue Velvet and Jizzwad if that is indeed the truth.

Quite happy to fess up to any shenanigans I may have created in the past. But can’t fess up to something I didn’t do. But as soon as I do do something I didn’t do…YOU’LL be the first to know!

Why did you admit to it now? About 10 years ago I called you out as being the same person. I said I graded papers for a living and you and Olsen, specifically, read like the same person when you post. You then took to your sock puppet accounts to mock me and my accusation “I’m a Teacher bla bla bla bla. You’re a stupid teacher, You don’t know what you’re talkign about, etc etc.” and I let it go. All you had to do was pull the same stunt again. why did you roll this time? What broke you?

Ten years ago? I’ll address that in a PM like I said. There’s more to it than you realise. Not going to announce it on the board. Not because I’m “ashamed” or “afraid” but out of courtesy to others that come into the picture here.

And stop making that face and rolling yr eyes!!!

<runs away giggling>

I wish he’d just come back and be his fun hateful weird self instead of boring us to death with more emo faggitry.

Can do!!!

<begins plotting more carnage>

<takes cheese and bacon croissant out of oven>

By the way . . . one final note. I don’t know if this is actually important to you or not, but regarding your believability and credibility on the board ---- we’re ALL just going to continue you’re full of crap about EVERYTHING and give zero credence to any of your posts unless you eventually make an attempt to “be real”. Come clean about your silly games and characters (some of us will even give you props for it, I should note), come clean about who you are, post a few REAL photos of yourself, and realize that you are just a regular dude in a (virtual) room with a bunch of other regular dudes. We’re all quirky and different, but I’ve yet to meet anyone that is vicious or vindictive or anything.

I think I’ve tried to answer this in my previous post. More than happy to post “real” photos. And more than happy to “be real”. But as I said to Grmps…can’t fess up to something I didn’t do. If you’re accusing me of having…oh I dunno…four or fives usernames, then forget it. You’ll never believe a word I say from now on. Cos it simply never happened.

If it helps, the Peligro character is, and was always, pretty much me from the heart.

Before the trial I honestly didn’t even know or think that Peligro and Olsen were the same person. After all this I am 100% certain that he is also Amlux.

Ambulance is just a normal guy.

I think the Evil Dildo theory is the most interesting, actually. I really like the kid regardless, and think he’s insanely talented. But when he posted a picture of a black sheet on stage as himself playing the piano I thought it was absolutely hilarious. It was then that I remembered he also wore a mask during the GG Allin tribute show they did.

I love the crazy conspiracies now. I used to think Grmpy was just a spastic paranoid (he knows, I’ve told him many times) but now I don’t dismiss anything right away.

thanks for clearing things up Peligro. glad to hear there is clarity in all of this. welcome back.