Surgical Meth Machine

It’s different and I like that. Need more listens.

Not really worth it’s own thread, but presumably as part of his promotion of SMM, Al speaks to The Quietus about the Ministry back catalogue: http://thequietus.com/articles/20135-al-jourgensen-favourite-ministry-albums-interview
I’m not sure there’s much of note said; the government are arseholes, With Sympathy was nothing to do with him, and so on. Generally I’d say this just reinforces the view that he cares very little about the music these days. I’ve only heard bits of SMM, and actually it does sound a bit better than the last few Ministry records, but that’s not really saying much.

[reply]Not really worth it’s own thread, but presumably as part of his promotion of SMM, Al speaks to The Quietus about the Ministry back catalogue: http://thequietus.com/articles/20135-al-jourgensen-favourite-ministry-albums-interview
I’m not sure there’s much of note said; the government are arseholes, With Sympathy was nothing to do with him, and so on. Generally I’d say this just reinforces the view that he cares very little about the music these days. I’ve only heard bits of SMM, and actually it does sound a bit better than the last few Ministry records, but that’s not really saying much.[/reply

I like that when he gets to Houses of the Mole he doesn’t even discuss anything about the album…hahaha…it’s all about what a douche Robert Plant is…funny stuff

Surprising how high DSotS and Filth Pig rank on that list, considering he stopped playing songs from those records well over a decade ago.

I can’t take ANYTHING this guy says even half seriously.
When they made “Relapse” he was saying it was “one of the top 10 rock records of all time”. Now he can’t even put it in his top 10 Ministry records.

And he always said he didn’t remember making “Dark Side”. Now he conveniently forgets making “Relapse” and has complete clarity about making “Dark Side”.

And giving lip service to “With Sympathy” (sort of). This all really feels like he’s finally paying attention to the public attitudes shared on the Internet . . . and crafting his own positions in accordance with them.

For a guy that claims to not give a fuck, it sure seems like he’s got an abundance of fucks to give.

Funny to see Twitch so low. Such a good record, but I understand Jourgenson saying it’s more Sherwood than him, that’s probably why it’s so good. I also find Animositoastedsamosa to be pretty much the nadir but didn’t realize he thought so too.

I haven’t listened to it since the day I left the studio. I even left two days early. I just said: “Fuck it. I’m done.” That’s why the last song is an instrumental. I just went, “You deal with it, Barker. Earn your fucking money. Fuck you: I’m done.”

Ouch. Not that I believe that it actually happened that way. But it’s too bad he thinks it did.

I haven’t listened to it since the day I left the studio. I even left two days early. I just said: “Fuck it. I’m done.” That’s why the last song is an instrumental. I just went, “You deal with it, Barker. Earn your fucking money. Fuck you: I’m done.”

Ouch. Not that I believe that it actually happened that way. But it’s too bad he thinks it did.

He’s said that about a lot of his records over the years.

I can’t take ANYTHING this guy says even half seriously.
When they made “Relapse” he was saying it was “one of the top 10 rock records of all time”. Now he can’t even put it in his top 10 Ministry records.

I believe it. We all know how much of a alcy he was at the time and it looks like he’s aware of the fact now too.
When he finally sobered up and listened again it probably came off like the album equivalent reading last night’s drunk texts.

I haven’t listened to it since the day I left the studio. I even left two days early. I just said: “Fuck it. I’m done.” That’s why the last song is an instrumental. I just went, “You deal with it, Barker. Earn your fucking money. Fuck you: I’m done.”

Ouch. Not that I believe that it actually happened that way. But it’s too bad he thinks it did.

Yeah, no kidding. Earn his “money.” What did Al ever really contribute besides vocals and lyrics. Like he told mike how or what to play? You can listen to any barker stuff and know that he was responsible for the majority of the ministry songs. Then when paul left the songs changed and id be willig to bet tommy victor wrote the new ones along with sin

Kind of bummed he’s already talking about new Ministry, revolting Cocks and Lard albums. Whether we see them or not (and I don’t doubt out of those, we will definitely see a new Ministry), I’d rather hoped for more SMM, it’s the best he’s sounded in years.

I haven’t listened to it since the day I left the studio. I even left two days early. I just said: “Fuck it. I’m done.” That’s why the last song is an instrumental. I just went, “You deal with it, Barker. Earn your fucking money. Fuck you: I’m done.”

Ouch. Not that I believe that it actually happened that way. But it’s too bad he thinks it did.

Yeah, likely not completely historically accurate. I think Angie started lobbying against Barker around the tour, not during the making of the album if I remember a couple of her stories right. Not that it matters and not that I really care. But I think Leper’s fine without vocals.

Oh, and there’s a quick screenshot of the lyrics for Unsung at 3:25 in this video:
https://youtu.be/3QlalNpYOOM that includes some ones that didn’t make the album. If anyone cares. Literally just noticed that today, 13 years after it came out.

What did Al ever really contribute besides vocals and lyrics. Like he told mike how or what to play? You can listen to any barker stuff and know that he was responsible for the majority of the ministry songs. Then when paul left the songs changed and id be willig to bet tommy victor wrote the new ones along with sin

Well, the post-Barker Ministry albums tend to have pretty detailed credits in the liner notes. Most of the songs are openly admitted to being collaboratively created, but the song “Rio Grande Blood” was apparently written and performed by Al alone.

I did notice the Quietus article says, “The relentless (no song slower than 220bpm) solo album Surgical Meth Machine is out now…” Er, SMM isn’t a solo project, it’s a duo of Jourgensen & D’Ambruoso. They’re both listed as band members in the booklet.

D’Ambruoso. They’re both listed as band members in the booklet.

I don’t know this cat but i would be willing to bet his music probably sounds a lot like SMM

Sammy D is a REALLY cool cat. Just about the nicest guy you’ll ever meet in your whole life. I love the dude immensely. I don’t like all of his stuff, but, yeah, if you love SMM, you also love Sammy, as he was HALF (at least) of SMM.

I don’t really have much else to say about anything else discussed since nothing Al says means a goddamned thing and fuck that guy. Seriously, fuck him. Fucking fake ass fucking lying fuckhead.

Fuck him.

Fucker.

Well, the post-Barker Ministry albums tend to have pretty detailed credits in the liner notes. Most of the songs are openly admitted to being collaboratively created, but the song “Rio Grande Blood” was apparently written and performed by Al alone.

I always thought that was weird, i don’t know if i believe it. Sounds more like Tommy Victor to me.

[reply]Well, the post-Barker Ministry albums tend to have pretty detailed credits in the liner notes. Most of the songs are openly admitted to being collaboratively created, but the song “Rio Grande Blood” was apparently written and performed by Al alone.

I always thought that was weird, i don’t know if i believe it. Sounds more like Tommy Victor to me.[/reply]
Which is probably one of many reasons why Victor isn’t a real big fan of Al

[reply][reply]Well, the post-Barker Ministry albums tend to have pretty detailed credits in the liner notes. Most of the songs are openly admitted to being collaboratively created, but the song “Rio Grande Blood” was apparently written and performed by Al alone.

I always thought that was weird, i don’t know if i believe it. Sounds more like Tommy Victor to me.[/reply]
Which is probably one of many reasons why Victor isn’t a real big fan of Al[/reply]

Indeed! I wonder if Tommy’s softened any toward Al? I’ve read lots of stuff even after the Prong track that totally savaged Al about how much Al liked working with him. Probably because Tommy Victor wrote so much of those albums, i suppose. You’d have to be pretty happy with someone bringing so may riffs to the table. I know some folk don’t like those albums, but i thought they were excellent personally.

[reply][reply][reply]Well, the post-Barker Ministry albums tend to have pretty detailed credits in the liner notes. Most of the songs are openly admitted to being collaboratively created, but the song “Rio Grande Blood” was apparently written and performed by Al alone.

I always thought that was weird, i don’t know if i believe it. Sounds more like Tommy Victor to me.[/reply]
Which is probably one of many reasons why Victor isn’t a real big fan of Al[/reply]

Indeed! I wonder if Tommy’s softened any toward Al? I’ve read lots of stuff even after the Prong track that totally savaged Al about how much Al liked working with him. Probably because Tommy Victor wrote so much of those albums, i suppose. You’d have to be pretty happy with someone bringing so may riffs to the table. I know some folk don’t like those albums, but i thought they were excellent personally.[/reply]
No doubt. They weren’t stellar like so many albums prior but there are more decent songs than not on each album (lyrics aside- even though I still detest W. but the lyrics are still quite dated.)