spoken words

has Al done any college guest lectures like he was planing in the last couple of years.

no

Looks like Jaz Coleman has a spoken word thing going:http://www.ticketfly.com/event/851929-jaz-coleman-letters-from-brooklyn/

Uggghh!!! Why does every two-bit rock personality nowadays think we want to pay to go see them stand on a stage and TALK. It was kind of a novel thing when Biafra and Rollins did it back in the mid-80’s. But now . . . we got Zach De La Rocha, Serj Tankian . . . Heck, even Corey Taylor, the singer for SLIPKNOT does it now! I’m so sick of all these boring sacks. And, yes, I’m even sick of Jello doing it. Jello, Bro, listen . . . if after 30 years you still haven’t been able to convey that censorship and conservatives are bad . . . JUST SHUT THE HELL UP!!!

Al’s would be only sort of entertaining because his stories are like an old drunk grandpa’s . . . Just making up more outlandish crap each time. When you’re 8 you think the dude is some kind of superhero. But at 40 you just hang your head in shame for the poor senile codger.

I think Jaz’s show could be interesting, he’s a genius and a very interesting/crazy man. Zach De La Rocha, Serj Tankian and especially Corey Taylor are boring dicks. I wouldn’t go to one of their shows if my life depended on it. Corey Taylor’s a whiny little bitch these days.

Corey Taylor’s a whiny little bitch these days.

And also busy butchering Metal Church…

http://youtu.be/Txtj9otG6XU

[reply]Corey Taylor’s a whiny little bitch these days.

And also busy butchering Metal Church…

http://youtu.be/Txtj9otG6XU[/reply]

Stone Sour are a fucking abomination, and he seems to have brought all their emo crybaby bullshit into Slipknot too. Never trust a young-ish man who wear a flat cap.

I dunno, Serj is from Armenia. He’s probably got interesting things to say if you’re into the history of that region.
Zach De La Rocha forgot how to do music, so I guess spoken word’s all he’s got left.
I have no idea why you’d want to hear Corey Taylor talk.

I have no idea why you’d want to hear Corey Taylor talk.

Maybe if you were an inventor who’d just created a machine that measured sheer boredom, it could be a good event to test it out at.

Zack does spoken word? I had no idea. Wouldnt mind hearing him speak if his lectures are as at least as smart as his lyrics. I though de la rocha dropped off the face of the earth except when he collabs with fringe peeps every once in a while.Biafra is boring now only because the internet beats him to alot of his fucked up stories. He doesnt have anything new to offer cause i read it 2 years earlier on some blog.

Just looked up zack de la rocha spoken word and dude hasnt done spoken word tours in 10+ years

Biafra is the biggest horses arse of them all. He rails about the very system that made him a comfortable living. Let’s lynch the landlord indeed. Nothing but a hypocrite.

You have absolutely no idea what yer talking about. What a surprise [rolleyes]

[reply][reply]Biafra is the biggest horses arse of them all. He rails about the very system that made him a comfortable living. Let’s lynch the landlord indeed. Nothing but a hypocrite.

You have absolutely no idea what yer talking about. What a surprise [rolleyes][/reply]

And you are clueless as usual. Shocking.[/reply]

Maybe instead of shouting vague platitudes about sell-outs, hypocrites and whatnot you could just EXPLAIN why you think Biafra is a hypocrite. Is it because he’s punk so he’s supposed to be poor? Is he hypocritical because he uses currency printed by the US Mint and therefore he’s supporting an oppressive Capitalist system?

What? I’d really like to know.

I gathered that he meant that nothing has changed in what he preaches, same things still happening. The fact that he makes his money by the music industry, which he constantly berates. seems hypocritical.

Peace out.

I gathered that he meant that nothing has changed in what he preaches, same things still happening.

I don’t take issue with this. Although I’ve not followed his stuff very closely over the last 15 years it does seem to be the same old song and dance. A dead horse beaten repeatedly. And, no, nothing has changed as a result of any of it.

But I don’t think repetitiveness or ineffectiveness equates to hypocrisy. If anything, it shows that he’s been true and consistent with his message and values (regardless of whether many of us even care).

The fact that he makes his money by the music industry, which he constantly berates. seems hypocritical.

Peace out.

Really? How so?
Most everyone has complaints or criticisms about aspects of the industry in which they are employed. Biafra has always remained outside the mainstream and it is the musical mainstream which he’s been most critical of (both in terms of content and practice/ business). But he’s also exposed problems within the independent/underground side of it all as well. He’s fostered an independent label and supported lesser known or unknown artists and brought them up with him to share in his own success and power.

Again, I just don’t know what is being said here . . . does SUCCESS equal hypocrisy? Are we not allowed to criticize our bosses or contemporaries?

Please help me understand.

Why do I think Mr. Biafra is a hypocrite?

  • He rants about “corporate-serving rodents” yet runs a record label and ripped off his now former bandmates. In 2000 he was convicted of fraud for that very thing. In 2003, the California Court of Appeals upheld the 2000 verdict unanimously. And yes I’m aware of the whole Levis biz.

I’m actually with you on this one.
I wasn’t thinking of this, but I’ve had similar pokes back at him. DECAY MUSIC was a four-way-equal-share collective when it was created. You know, anarchy, one-for-all-all-for-one, punk rock DIY symbiosis and all that crap. Well, it worked pretty well for a bit . . . . until the band split up and Biafra didn’t like any of the other dudes getting paid. They made successful distribution and merch deals in the mean time and Biafra always got his checks (and had no problem cashing them in spite of whatever punk rock values he was holding).

I don’t hate Jello’s ex bandmates. But it is a fact that Jello himself was about 80% of the content and success of that little band. Shame on him, though, for not structuring their contracts differently if he was going to finally match his ego to his talent later in life.

Anyway, Prologue, thanks for the clarifications. I’m glad to see you do have some thought and substance behind that versus (sorry, I just see and hear it all too often) some random gutter punk’s dissatisfaction that Jello has a decent life and the squat-dwelling hobos are eating Spaghetti-o’s out of a can.

I remember hearing one or two of Rollin’s spoken word albums - they were almost stand up comedy (This was before Joe Cole died, and Hank was a happier dude)…

Yeah, Henry’s stuff is more consistently entertaining than the rest, to be honest. I don’t know if I need to hear 2 hours of it, but it’s gotta be more palatable than any of his contemporaries.

I saw Rollins a few years ago and he talked for a little over 3 hours without a break or sitting down. Dude is insane. Most of his spoken word albums are great time killers.

When I was in high school, my friends and I would hang out and listen to Rollins’ “Big Ugly Mouth,” “Sweatbox,” “Live at McCabes,” and “Human Butt” spoken word CDs. Seems like such a quaint idea nowadays. But, we loved his stuff and that era of his spoken word was less stand-up comedy. More observations he collected from touring around and meeting people.

Saw him last at the Galaxy Club in Dallas, round 98-99. No seats, so everyone had to stand and the place was packed like sardines. He went a minimum 2 hrs. It was bit much.

[reply]I gathered that he meant that nothing has changed in what he preaches, same things still happening.

I don’t take issue with this. Although I’ve not followed his stuff very closely over the last 15 years it does seem to be the same old song and dance. A dead horse beaten repeatedly. And, no, nothing has changed as a result of any of it.

But I don’t think repetitiveness or ineffectiveness equates to hypocrisy. If anything, it shows that he’s been true and consistent with his message and values (regardless of whether many of us even care).

The fact that he makes his money by the music industry, which he constantly berates. seems hypocritical.

Peace out.

Really? How so?
Most everyone has complaints or criticisms about aspects of the industry in which they are employed. Biafra has always remained outside the mainstream and it is the musical mainstream which he’s been most critical of (both in terms of content and practice/ business). But he’s also exposed problems within the independent/underground side of it all as well. He’s fostered an independent label and supported lesser known or unknown artists and brought them up with him to share in his own success and power. [/reply]
Not only that but his AT label operates at a yearly loss. So as far as making his money off of music that isn’t entirely accurate either.