So, You're Dying to Ask Al a Question -- Do it tonight!!!

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[reply][reply][reply]Also, am i wrong is b’ig mama’ pauls wife? why do you ask questions you should know the answer to?

It’s never been admitted by Big Mama, but many suspect and/or assume it to be.[/reply]

I thought Big Mama was Mooney.[/reply]
I’m inclined to think Big Mama is “Lady Monster.” I have nothing to base this on other than the fact that “big” is in her name. I don’t think it’s gerda just because she doesn’t get annoyed/angry so easily at what people post towards her.
I’m probably wrong but that’s my two cents.
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Everyone is Gerda and Gerda is everyone. We are Gerda of Borg.

I had heard, probably just gossip but still, I had heard gerda was a lawyer. If that’s true, I’m surprised she hasn’t gone after the jourgensens for fraud. Unless of course the pedal company is kicking ass and it’s not worth the time or effort to pursue it. kinda like skipping over dollars to pick up pennies.

Googling her, excuse me, OUR name shows an attorney profile on Texasbar.com. So that’s probably true. Maybe.

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Her reply to me was so disproportionately enraged, and her vitriol against my blood brother paul Barker so insanely irrational, I thought-fuck you, I’m going to write about it-I had no intention or money to hire a lawyer-the ony thing I ever really have is a pen (and I DID write the book longhand)

She even came on here and attacked ME!! Me! Just some pleb on the internet who was questioning the artistic merit of the Bush trilogy.

“You are a mean spirited so and so, who has been poisoning the internet for too long about Ministry and blah blah blah…” or something.

Then she left in a huff. Never came back. It seems I upset her for pointing out that the reason the Bush trilogy was receiving such terrible reviews was that…it was terrible. There was no “conspiracy” to ruin Al’s career. It’s simply because the Bush trilogy is a great big festering pile of shit.

And then everybody on the board attacked me for “being rude” to Angie. Months later there was an all out “Angie Hate Fest” on this board because she had upset a few of the other members. Soon everybody was spewing venom over Angie.

And nobody ever offered me an apology for being right all along.

Anyway, that was years ago.

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Her reply to me was so disproportionately enraged, and her vitriol against my blood brother paul Barker so insanely irrational, I thought-fuck you, I’m going to write about it-I had no intention or money to hire a lawyer-the ony thing I ever really have is a pen (and I DID write the book longhand)

She even came on here and attacked ME!! Me! Just some pleb on the internet who was questioning the artistic merit of the Bush trilogy.

“You are a mean spirited so and so, who has been poisoning the internet for too long about Ministry and blah blah blah…” or something.

Then she left in a huff. Never came back. It seems I upset her for pointing out that the reason the Bush trilogy was receiving such terrible reviews was that…it was terrible. There was no “conspiracy” to ruin Al’s career. It’s simply because the Bush trilogy is a great big festering pile of shit.

And then everybody on the board attacked me for “being rude” to Angie. Months later there was an all out “Angie Hate Fest” on this board because she had upset a few of the other members. Soon everybody was spewing venom over Angie.

And nobody ever offered me an apology for being right all along.

Anyway, that was years ago.[/reply]
You really were a dick to angie. She did nothing to provoke it either.
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grmpysmrf

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[reply][reply]Also, am i wrong is b’ig mama’ pauls wife? why do you ask questions you should know the answer to?

It’s never been admitted by Big Mama, but many suspect and/or assume it to be.[/reply]

I thought Big Mama was Mooney.[/reply]

its clearly Eerie Load. he is all bummed and sad that he didnt get the chance to remiXXX Relapse as Relapsespaler MiXXer OlympicoLOL : Greaterist HitXXX or whatever other borderline Warrant style title it would have had.

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I love Angie. I truly do. That doesn’t mean I’m going to give her a free pass on everything, and she knows it. I’ve made plenty of jokes at her expense, cartoons, videos, etc., but she has a great sense of humor about it. Always has.

I think if I were to pick a downside to Angie or a fault, it’s that she does not often have wise counsel available and has too much faith in those nearby. The whole Afra/PissArmy debacle is a good example. She came unhinged and Afra got mowed down and his character questioned . . . not because of any offense that he actually committed with respect to the incident, but because the lowlife pricks that ruined the site were too spineless and soulless to cop to it honestly and they were all too pleased to let an innocent scapegoat get sacrificed in the process.

Angie is fiercely territorial, loyal and protective of those she loves. She sometimes might shoot first and ask questions later (or not ask questions at all). And the people that she seeks those answers from often have another angle or motive altogether so she doesn’t necessarily get the purest of data at all times.

Does Angie have flaws? Of course she does. But they’re typically rooted in the deep desire to believe the best of those that are close to her at any given time. That doesn’t always prove wise, especially in an industry so rife with scoundrels, self-seekers, and charlatans.

I often criticize the “products” of 13th Planet.
And various dramatic episodes involving Angie as a primary participant are not outside my criticism or free from lampooning.

But I will never attack her personally or degrade her character. In the 9 years I’ve known her she has been caring, kind, conscientious, courteous, and generous in all dealings. I also respect and admire how she’s cared for and been the rock of dependability for a man who has bottomed out, been left for dead, and passed over repeatedly. Let’s face it, taking on Al in 2000 wasn’t exactly a golden ticket. But she loves the man unconditionally, and I think that’s pretty damn awesome too.

If any of y’all think I’m butthurt or defensive in this post, you couldn’t be farther from the truth. I believe everyone is responsible for their own personas and how they come across to others (Angie is no exception). But I did want to be honest and forthcoming about my own experience and dealings with a lady whom I’ve known for 9 years and both respect and love.

Carry on . . . .

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(vomit)

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Hey Gunnar, here’s a napkin to wipe the shit off your ugly face, [:)]

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Gunnar.

You homo for Angie?

Me homo 4 u.

Lat’s fok

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Gunnar.

You homo for Angie?

Me homo 4 u.

Lat’s fok

I’m not homo for her and I don’t kiss her ass like a lot of people on various sites do. I just think she’s an oft-misunderstood person and sometimes gets a bad rap. I don’t really give a crap what troubles or disagreements people have had with her and don’t discount their experiences. I’m sure their pain and frustrations are real and if I were a different person and worked with her or for her my perspectives would be completely different. But in my own dealings with her, I’ve always been pleased and impressed with her generosity, patience, and caring.

I think the ball-busting take-no-shit get-the-eff-outta-my-way side of her is kind of needed for the territory. When she took the role of Al’s manager, babysitter, wife, booking agent, etc. etc. everything was in shambles and a take charge General-type was really the only effective option to get things back on track, in my opinion. That determination and aggression doesn’t always endear one to others.

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At the end of the day, Al would probably be long dead without her. I met her at a show in Amsterdam on the Animositisomina tour and she couldn’t have been nicer to us. She took an interest in where we were from when she heard our accents and was generally very friendly, when she didn’t have to converse with us at all. She was impressed that anyone would come so far to see Ministry. That’s my 2 pence worth, i don’t know her at all, but she was friendly, which is good enough for me.

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Wish I’d have been here when he was taking questions.[pirate]

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What would you have asked him?

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What would you have asked him?

If he remembered throwing up on me in a Howard Johnson’s motel in Orlando. lol

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[reply]What would you have asked him?

If he remembered throwing up on me in a Howard Johnson’s motel in Orlando. lol[/reply]
I’ll field this one…

“fuck no! I don’t remember any of you fucking people, I hate you all!”

there were at least 2 “Do you remember me?” questions and that’s how answered them both.
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I’ll agree with gunnar about angie she seems to be a good person i talk to her, never about ministry,alot on fb and she’s given me alot of advice on things.I think the only time al was even brought up i tried to get her to play “everyday is halloween” to see what al would do and she thought it was funny

That was a good zinger though evildildo

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[reply]What would you have asked him?

If he remembered throwing up on me in a Howard Johnson’s motel in Orlando. lol[/reply]

Did you and Al have sex, Mishella?

Nevermind that guy-woman trying to get in the middle of things…You brought something up very interesting, it sounded like you and Al have some history together, Mischella

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[reply][reply]What would you have asked him?

If he remembered throwing up on me in a Howard Johnson’s motel in Orlando. lol[/reply]

Did you and Al have sex, Mishella?[/reply]

Did you ever have sex with Al, BigMama? You kind of sound like a bitter ex.

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[reply][reply][reply]What would you have asked him?

If he remembered throwing up on me in a Howard Johnson’s motel in Orlando. lol[/reply]

Did you and Al have sex, Mishella?[/reply]

Did you ever have sex with Al, BigMama? You kind of sound like a bitter ex.[/reply]

You sound and look like someone no one would be attracted to

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Pretty much.

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^
Pretty much.

Nevermind that guy -woman, sounds like Mishella and Al have some very intersting history together