Setlist 1
Love In Vein
Hatekill
Addiction
Dogshit
Deadlines
Politikil
Pedafly
Rodent
Tormentor
Pro-Test
Morpheus
Ugli
Assimilate
Encore:
Worlock
Another date
Encore:
13. Worlock
14. Far Too Frail
I was hoping they’d play The Choke and Smothered Hope. But I like it.
Morpheus?
That’s one from the vaults.
Deadlines and Assimilate are my two most favorite Puppy songs, and despite seeing four previous tours I’ve never heard those live. From the videos I’ve checked out on youtube Ogre’s voice has been spot on, and Ken Hiwatt Marshall is running the sound for the entire tour.
It is Morpheus Laughing from Too Dark Park they are playing not the actual song Morpheus, which would have been awesome as well as that is my favorite Process era song.
Sure the show could be longer, TGWOTR had roughly 20 songs each night, but with a set list like this I am not complaining. Looking forward to the 24th.
Who’s going to see them in NYC Tuesday?
Saw them last night in Montreal.
Awesome. As always.
Dammit, knew I should’ve gone to Chicago.
show was incredible, I’m absolutely beat.
I think I’m going to skip it this year. Money’s tight right now, it’s Thanksgiving week, and I’ve already seen SP and/or Ohgr several times.
I saw them last night at Nokia Theatre in Times Square. Had a hell of a time. Showed up high with no ticket and thankfully ran right into two friendly goth types who sold me an extra they had for pretty cheap.
We went in together and saw the opener, which was cool at first (old school Industrial TG sounding beats and blasts of sound with screaming distorted vox) but then he launched into this Guitar Hero bullshit where these pre-programmed industrial blast beats were going and he was playing guitar in constantly shifting time signatures like Buckethead. Impressive, but it wasn’t a show it was musical masturbation with a backing track and felt awkward.
I liked it better last time when they had Sightings as an opener, who I love. The one man show thing has never really done it for me. Give me a band.
After that, Key and some techies set up rather quickly for Puppy.
Next thing you know, they were starting up and the crowd was excited. Ohgr came out slowly with a walker, looking hunched over, in this weird KKK/dunce cap mask with a cone rising above his head with mummy sleeves.
The setlist was more or less the one posted first in this thread. They opened with “Love in Vein” and it sounded great. The drummer, as always, was excellent throughout the show and Ogre’s voice is in top shape. He sounds better on this tour than any since they reunited IMO because whoever is doing the sound is really balancing out the processing and the clean vocals perfectly depending on the different songs and even the parts within each song.
Later on he entered this booth and a camera mounted in the booth broadcast a close up of his face in a new mask—a kind of white skeleton thing—on the big screen behind the band. There was a psychedelic montage of pills and his face and arms were like floating in the midst of it as he spazzed out and was dancing…very cool looking.
Then he removed the skull thing to reveal a gaping black hole instead of his face. Random psychedelic flashes of light and effects continued to play behind the band throughout the set. The only other theme besides pills was for “Ugli” where they montaged pictures of Jesus, miltary tanks/explosions and the American flag and later these burning crosses. Ogre mounted the arms of the walker onto the mic stand and it looked like a cross between a crucifix and a swastika, which I’m sure was the intention.
This part annoyed me though because it was a reminder of how juvenile the message of that song is. I mean what the fuck–the Christianity bashing in Industrial is ancient at this point and not shocking in the least. Not to mention this middle eastern conflict is already old news and wtf does Jesus have to do with it anyway. Blame our alliance with Israel and if you want to target religion target Judaism and Islam. Oh wait, that’s too politically incorrect because then you’re criticizing the minority…
If anything, the sudden emergence of a theme to the imagery playing behind them was a reminder that the visuals for the other songs didn’t really have a concrete message…
After this Ogre disappeared, then reappeared back with the cone helmet and this time it was emitting smoke, which looked really cool.
Then finally a last encore where he was maskless which was almost a relief because despite his best intentions to sabotage it with masks lately (not that I’m complaining), he is an iconic frontman and personality and the constant shedding of masks felt like a tease with no release until we finally saw his face. He is in fantastic shape btw.
So all in all it was a good night and the best part is I palled around with the goths afterwards and finally got some numbers of potential collaborators (for Nursing Home) and friends, which is much much needed in my life right now since moving to NYC and dumping the cunt.
NYC show was badass. It was amazing. I know of two people who audio-recorded it - one of them sounded good, B+ at least, the other…probably better.
As for “Ugli” - it’s not an anti-Christ song. Read his interviews. He explains it’s a metaphor. The whole crucifix thing was a reinforced image of something deeper…
As for “Ugli” - it’s not an anti-Christ song. Read his interviews. He explains it’s a metaphor. The whole crucifix thing was a reinforced image of something deeper…
Your response got me thinking and I took this quote from their website:
"The simultaneous percolating and grinding “ugLi” (with its refrain “Jesus wants to be ugly”), is not an attack on spirituality, but a treatise on how religion is used as a tool by the morally bankrupt as a means of control. “I wrote those lyrics over a year ago, because I felt that the concept of Jesus was being used in an ugly fashion,” says the singer. “Now, you’re seeing a large body of the Christian movement questioning that utopian union and questioning the morality of the current administration.”
That seems pretty in line with what I thought the song was about…and pretty lame for a song released in 2007. I could understand the idea behind it working with the themes of ‘Greater Wrong of the Right’…
The 6th of December can’t get here fast enough, fuck.
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void, regardless of when it was recorded, and what it pertained to, stands forever. That’s what I love about Ogre, I remember listening to ‘second tooth’ (1988) and witnesses 9/11 happening and found it so poignant, those lyrics. Strong points to a writer, that can withstand the test of time and look at a situation subjectively.
Of course, I get what you mean about the imagery…well…he’s still a businessman. Gotta sell it to those “sub-culture” goth kids with no clue right? [laugh]
I’d love to get a hold of that recording and get it up on the tube if anyone doesn’t feel like doing it. The smoke coming out of the top of the mask during Assimilate was amazing man, great show.
Dash (from the SP litany board) put up two live clips on youtube. That’s it so far…
anyone have Rodent recorded (video) ? I’ve been waiting to show my friend the money shot I received in blood.
Ogre’s voice is in top shape. He sounds better on this tour than any since they reunited IMO because whoever is doing the sound is really balancing out the processing and the clean vocals perfectly depending on the different songs and even the parts within each song.
They have Ken Marshall doing the mixing for all the shows on this tour. I really think it is making a huge difference. They sounded amazing in Detroit.
I think Ken is more vital to quality Puppy than either Kevin.
Got back from the show tonight in Atlanta. First off the venue switched stages on them because Switchfoot who were originally going to play the Loft completely sold out. Now I am not familiar with these guys but I do not think they have a stage full of equipment, and a light show like SP, so I was already worried about the size of the stage they were playing on now.
We got to the Center Stage around 7:00 and there was a line wrapped around the block on both sides for the other act [:(] Inside we were first at the third part of the venue, Vinyl where I believe Thrill Kill Kult played last time they were here. The opening act Werewolf Grahv was set up here, and played around 8:00. He was just a guy with a laptop and a guitar shredding to blast beats, and noise. Not the worst opening act, but it all started to sound the same after awhile. Like void mentioned I thought of Buckethead while watching him.
Around 9:00 we went upstairs to the Loft and saw a stage that while 3 times the size of the one in Vinyl was still too small for the show. All the equipment was jammed in with a ceiling that was pretty low, so the backing screen was reduced to a sliver behind the drummer Justin. cEvin Key had a 3-D optical set up that would usually be over his head, but was lowered in front of him so he was hard to see.
The guys in SP made the best of it though and put on what turned out to be one of the most intimate shows I have ever seen. With some real old gems in the set list I felt like I was back in the '80s at a club show. The songs off the last 2 albums sounded great live, better than they have on the last few tours. They are also doing more improvs between songs now.
The mix they played of Addiction was an obscure one off an old 1988 Nettwerk comp [shocked] Plus they pulled out Hatekill which was a song not used for the Process, but fit into the concept of the show which was loosely built around racism. Ogre remained in costume going through various transformations until they came out for the encores of Worlock and Far Too Frail. The sound was top notch, not ear deafening loud like some other shows of theirs I’ve seen, Ken Marshall from now on should mix all their shows.
All in all they took a situation that sucked for them, and turned it into an awesome show. Highlights of the show for me were Addiction, Deadlines, Rodent, Morpheus Laughing, and Assimilate. They played the best version of Worlock I’ve ever heard and that includes the Too Dark Park and Last Rights tours when Dwayne was still alive.
They are heading back across the south towards the west coast so if you have a chance don’t miss this one.