Requiem For A Dream

So it’s a comedy?

Awesome snark, but the rape of a newborn still makes snark fall flat.

So queer, you’re saying this is worse than Salo?

Late,
grmpysmrf

I don’t really have any interest whatsoever (Salo has always sort of intrigued me and maybe if my wife was to go away for a few days I’d try it) in such films. That being said, I found this poster while looking into “A Serbian Film”.

How friggin’ cool is this poster?

I don’t really have any interest whatsoever (Salo has always sort of intrigued me and maybe if my wife was to go away for a few days I’d try it) in such films. That being said, I found this poster while looking into “A Serbian Film”.

How friggin’ cool is this poster?

Salo will haunt you for days but if you’re interested I’ve got a copy of it. It’s the criterion version so it’s uncut.
Late,
grmpysmrf

120 days of sodom? it’s not that bad at all.

So it’s a comedy?

Well, it does seem to be a dramatic interpretation of the old “Aristocrats” joke.

I was skimming through some of the reviews on IMDB, one of which gave me this lovely laundry list of scenes to behold . . . .

  • Very detailed decapitation of a woman who got tied to a bed and repeatedly hit while being raped

  • Rape (and murder?) of a newborn baby, straight out the mother’s womb

  • A man raping another unconscious man

  • Hitting Women

  • A woman having all her teeth knocked out being forced to perform oral sex and getting choked by a penis through holding her nose

  • Implication of raping a woman with a metal tube and showing her obvious death through bleeding out

  • Rape of a male child by his father with graphic details of blood spraying from his anus to his thighs

  • Rape of the boys mother by her husbands brother right next to the boy being raped by his father

  • Implication of necrophilia in the final scene after the protagonist kills himself, his wife and his son with a bullet

[reply]So it’s a comedy?

Awesome snark, but the rape of a newborn still makes snark fall flat.

So queer, you’re saying this is worse than Salo?

Late,
grmpysmrf[/reply]

Yeah grmpy,its much worse than Salo…

The title cracks me up, and if I was a Serb I’d actually be pretty pissed as it really seems to imply that Serbians are the most degenerate, morally bankrupt, rotten bunch of bastards to ever infect the planet.

“A Serbian Film”.

Ahh, it’s just another Serbian film. Probably one of a thousand or so. You know how the story goes . . . Boy meets girl, boy rapes girl then rips her fetus out of her womb, rapes it and then bites its head off and then rapes the neck hole and then shoves the fetus’ corpse up his grandma’s ass and then saws off her breasts and feeds them to her while making his sister eat his grandma’s excrement which now also contains bloody fetus in it, and then, well . . . I don’t wanna spoil the ending, but don’t worry, it’s nothing you haven’t seen before.

In Serbia they show these movies at Farrell’s.

Well,as long as it isn’t at the Farrell’s we go to…then they would be taking us out on a stretcher for another reason haha…

It’s one of those flicks were the director claims it’s an analogy for post-war Serbia blah blah…yeah ok and fucking someone in their eye socket and raping a newborn is symbolic of what exactly…? It’s just scene after scene of rape and endless depraved degradation of all types…with Requien for a Dream(even though I didn’t like the film)I at least could feel some sympathy for the characters at the end…at the end of Serbian Film I only felt sympathy for myself for having put myself through that…

From a technical and visual standpoint its very well done by the way but as for the rest ugh…I would strongly advise against watching it if you want to keep you that last little piece of your humanity haha…

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Yeah, I hate when some pompous jackass tries to feed me that “it’s a metaphor for . . .” Bullcrap. Just be a man and admit you made a piece of hideous pseudo-snuff exploitation.

There’s no way I’ll be watching this film. When I was in college and we’d seek out the rottenest shock films we could find (including the “Traces of Death” series) so we could be all tough and manly watching attrocity and horror, this film would definitely have been in the queue for one of Gunnar’s degenerate house parties. But not now. No way.

I hear what you are saying…maybe I’m just getting old but that was my last foray into movies of that ilk…those tye of films just don’t suit my headspace anymore…not to mention,I don’t know where you could go after that film…I don’t even want to think about someone trying to top the nastiness of that film…

After watching that movie all I wanted to watch for like a month after was Winnie the Pooh…trying in vain to restore some long lost innocence…never to be found again…

We’re all Ministry fans, so I suspect we all went through that phase where we become interesting in horrible stuff just fot he shock value. But I think at some point most of us ask “why am I putting that in my head” and realize that there’s someone on the other end of all of it.

Serbian Film sounds worse than Antichrist. Antichrist is probably the most fuckd up thing I’ve ever seen. But this Antichrist sounds more well done than Serb

Serbian Film sounds worse than Antichrist. Antichrist is probably the most fuckd up thing I’ve ever seen. But this Antichrist sounds more well done than Serb

Lol antichrist was a joke.

I hated Antichrist and Von Trier’s films in general…they just aren’t for me…and yes Serbian Film makes Antichrist seem like Nutty Professor Part 2…

Antichrist did make me cringe because I get squemish when it comes to genital mutilation but the rest of that film is just bad…beautifully shot,as all his films are,but they just leave me cold…I saw it in a little art house theater when I was visiting some friends in NY…some girl was squealing through the entire film much to our delight…when that fox said “CHAOS REIGNS”,the whole place busted out laughing…

It’s one of those flicks were the director claims it’s an analogy for post-war Serbia blah blah…

I read that the director says something different… although I will give him the analogy that shows the length some people will go to to secure the family’s survival…

According to Spasojevi, the character of Vukmir is “an exaggerated representation of the new European film order … the Western world has lost feelings, so they’re searching for false ones, they want to buy feelings.”
In another interview Spasojevi is quoted as saying “my shocking ‘A Serbian Film’ denounces the fascism of political correctness.” Questioned by the Croatian media on whether the violence depicted deals with crimes committed by Serbian soldiers during the Yugoslav Wars, Spasojevi answered: “‘Srpski Film’ does not touch upon war themes, but in a metaphorical way deals with the consequences of postwar society and [u]a man that is exploited to the extreme in the name of securing the survival of his family.[/u]”
"As much as we try to deal with our life in this film allegorically, and with the corrupt political authorities that govern it, we are also dealing with today’s Art and Cinema and the corrupt artistic authorities that govern them in a similar manner here. The films that preach and enforce political correctness are the dominant form of cinematic expression today. Nowadays in Eastern Europe you cannot get a film financed unless you have a pathetic and heartwarming ‘true story’ to tell about some poor lost refugee girls with matchsticks, who ended up as victims of war, famine and/or intolerance. They mostly deal with VICTIMS as heroes, and they use and manipulate them in order to activate the viewer’s empathy. They make a false, romanticized story about that victim and sell it as real life. That is real pornography and manipulation, and also spiritual violence – the cinematic fascism of political correctness.

and yeah I thought antichrist was laughable. I couldn’t even make it through the whole movie it was so stupid.

Late,
grmpysmrf

We’re all Ministry fans, so I suspect we all went through that phase where we become interesting in horrible stuff just fot he shock value. But I think at some point most of us ask “why am I putting that in my head” and realize that there’s someone on the other end of all of it.

Yeah. True dat. And I supposed the “someone on the other end of it” can take two forms . . .

  1. With the “true death” stuff, we’re talking about actual real people who actually, truly suffered horrible accidents and pain or worse (victimized). Shocking not just because of the material, but you have to wonder about the victims and, if appropriate, the sick perpetrators.

  2. With this manufactured film, I almost feel worse about it (psychologically, of course, as I’m not trying to say that the simulated representation of someone’s rape/murder is anywhere near the actual crime). I mean, it’s one thing if this was just some gnarly cartoon or a purposely “comic” vomitfest done on a shoestring budget for sick giggles (I.e. some of the GWAR home videos). But this was, as most reviewers noted, a very slickly produced and realistic creation. There were a LOT of players and resources that went into it. Actors, set rentals, special effects, crew, production, editing, distribution, etc. etc. A giant conspiracy to release an abomination of depravity on whatever viewer is unfortunate enough (or sick enough) to gaze upon it. How that many people could all be on board with this and do it either with a clean conscience or because a few bucks in their pockets will clean that conscience for them is just nauseating to me.

I’m just envisioning days on the set with the director screaming, “No no no, Svertijalenn!! You are not making love to the newborn, you are RAPING it! Faster thrusting, and punch it more in the face! And Milosivich, when Jergen is anally raping his son, we need it to bleed vigorously. Come on, People! Work with me here!”

Uggh! I’ve not even seen the film and I’m repulsed by it.

Perhaps this life-immitates-art-immitates-life business really is the true message here. But instead of focusing on the film’s “down on his luck porn actor” maybe we should all look at Serbia and everyone involved in this film and ask, “Is this film what a war-stricken nation is capable of producing in good faith? Is this what anyone can become?”. I don’t even think that it can be justified in such a manner, but maybe there’s something to be learned there. Either way, I don’t think I need to view the film for me to judge it.

I would have to say Requiem is worth a watch, Ellen Burstyn is a really talented actress as is Marlon Wayans (!) who played a dramatic role and shined in it. I don’t think he’s done another role like that since then, a real shame.
I used to live a few neighborhoods down from where it was shot, and I think my exmanager at my job actually lived in the little duplex house Ellen lived in the movie.

It’s not necessarily a “drug” movie, but about addiction in general and how infatuation with some things can basically take you out of your normal element and just drive you to do crazy things. The soundtrack is really good, too. I have it. It’s a little repetitive, yeah, but I think that’s what they were going for.

I had never seen ass to ass done in a porno before I saw this movie, and it absolutely blew my mind.

Serbian film sounds like a rollicking good time. [rolleyes]

Maybe we should all do a bunch of Acid and watch “Serbian Film” together.

Maybe we should all do a bunch of Acid and watch “Serbian Film” together.

hehe…new definition to “bad trip”…