People are not equal
Nobody owes you anything
If you don’t like it - either fight with it by using civilized methods or just kill yourself
Why the hell are Nazis tolerated on here?
Good question.
Yeah fuck this bullshit…
Man, I’m so glad we got all that 2020 craziness behind us and we can now smoothly move into 2021 like civilized and respectful adults, right? Ahhh, I do love a good 'ol fashioned peaceful transition of power. Yessirree!!
Disgraceful shit,man…
I have to admit I feel completely blindsided by a lot of this.
I’m apathetic to most “political” stuff so I don’t typically care to follow it (though I’ve been more engaged this year than any year prior). And I roll my eyes at and have become quite numb to the online hyperbole and chest-puffing that is so pervasive in these times. If I had a dollar for everyone that threatened to kill/rape me and/or my family I just buy off the protestors on all sides.
I wish there were more dialogue of the greater context of social media. Not in the branding of groups and tying them to certain platforms and their supposed tolerance or condemning. That’s a false oversimplification, in my eyes, and fails to address the actual problem.
People all across the board have become weird planets unto themselves. They want to be part of something big and grand and even moral, but they also desperately want attention and credit for such involvement. Actual understanding or even an informing of issues is secondary to most people as the priority seems to always be the reaction itself. When a photo of someone with a shirt or a sign emerges, or of them in what may appear to be a situation/scene that could be deemed culturally “wrong”, very few people ask questions. They want the moral credit for the condemnation. Here we are, lighting torches and sharpening pitchforks because that’s the most visible thing we can do. People talk about virtue-signaling and cancel-culture. I find both to be pretty scary, and it’s absolutely done by BOTH sides. If a raging mob trying to intimidate someone to change a vote or a stance on something can’t be equated with cancel-culture, what can? So many people wanted to KILL Pence, Pelosi, etc. Hard to get more canceled than that.
I don’t think there is a lot of thought or consideration behind any of this. Even our so-called Boomer generation is caught up in the bullshit. If all those clowns realized that they could be put in prison for treason, insurrection, etc. would they all be laughing, taking selfies, and live-tweeting or streaming video on FB Live?
It’s obviously not just the so-called Conservatives, but let’s face it… we chose a Twitter President and then we got a Twitter Country. Yes, we were heading that way as a society anyway, but we sure fastracked a lot of shit down the highway to hell before we could even assess what the fuck was happening.
I probably babbled some nonsense but am not ambitious enough to go back and re-read it. I’m sure it won’t be my last rant here, hahaha.
Wishing everyone all the best and safety to you and your families.
In the meantime, as a question of actual governmental and Constitutional protocol/ procedure, though… Does anyone know what happens if they do go forward with an Impeachment and it’s not able to conclude prior to 1/20/2021? Does it continue? Does it still apply? I heard one official saying that since the wording of the law is something about "when impeached the President shall be removed from office and . . . . . " that it’s completely irrelevant since Trump would NOT be the President at such a time.
They seem really terrified of him running for President AGAIN, which I understand, but that’s kind of embarrassing to me and shows once more how pathetic the Democratic party is. If they can’t, in 4 years following this absolute shitshow, give people a better alternative than the guy who just attacked our own Capitol . . . well, maybe it’s time for them to really ask if anything they’re offering is even worth a damn.
The need for impeachment is something that the “law & order” party should agree with – actions have consequences. You need to show that falsely claiming that an election was fraudulent and stirring up a riot is not acceptable.
It does also give both Democrats and Republicans cover from Trump. Let’s face it – his base is almost cult like in their devotion. While the Democrats SHOULD be able to find a candidate that does better than Trump, the Republicans would also be happy to leave his legacy in the past. Under his term, they lost control of the House, Presidency, and recently the Senate. Yet too many are afraid to call him out. Case in point – There was a Republican who voted against a state’s group of electors … not cause they felt there was fraud, but out of fear of threats against them and their family. (This was relayed by another Republican House member – Rep Meijer of Michigan, who has recently spoken up about how his party is cowering to Trump out of fundraising needs, and not because they feel it is appropriate leadership.)
So, I do think there is the need for something to be done showing this behavior is not Presidential and that we hold our leaders to a higher standard.
That, and I want a President who I can quote in front of my elementary students again. The past 4 years have been difficult, since bringing up his rhetoric doesn’t quite fit with our anti-bullying policies.
Must be nice to be in that world. a tremendous amount of people have been seeing the writing on the wall for sometime now, but they were dismissed as cranks and crazies and had “trump derangement syndrome.”
What does this mean? I’m not sure what dialogue you’re talking about.
Yeah until they don’t. All these morons have no idea how social media works and have made a mad dash to delete their crazy shit without understanding that ALL of it has been preserved in the cloud and with screenshots that others have taken. The idiot that organized the “stop the steal rally” has now gone into hiding.
This isn’t a social media problem this is an education problem. Reactions are fine, highlighting reactions is fine but the ugly comes from when those reactions come from a place of complete ignorance .
“Could be deemed”?
What questions are you going to ask of a person wearing a shirt emblazoned with “6 Million wasn’t enough?” What questions are there for someone wearing a “Camp auschwitz” hoody? What questions are you gonna ask of the over all group that is tolerant with those people and those waiving White supremacy flags? there’s really nothing to ask…
What is said or asked of an individual or a mob who will answer your questions with anti-america accusations at worst and chants of USA at best?
There’s nothing wrong with these things. What’s wrong with publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one’s good character or the moral correctness of one’s position on a particular issue? (Virtual Signaling) What’s Wrong with Boycotting (“Cancel Culture”) IT used to be said that a boycott was the most american thing you can do. and now it’s rebranded as “cancel culture” and is taboo.
The right has literally taken being a good person and turned it into a negative. They have literally rebranded boycotts into “Cancel culture” so they can tell you to shut up and buy.
This is most definitely NOT a “both sides do it” whine. I’m done with that fucking phrase. I’m done with that fucking blame shifter. The most disingenuous, fucked up, dishonest, fucking piece of shit rhetoric to ever come about in the last 20 years is “Meehee , Well both sides do it.” FUCK THAT! both sides do not fucking do it! I guess if you’re good at conflating then both sides do it You never hear Libs talk about “Both sides do it.” that phrase is trotted out by repubs to justify the bullshit action on whatever action they took.
That is not cancel culture. That is murder. There is a difference. They are not the same. And I will point out the left has not engaged in. So, again, no, both sides don’t do it.
“Caught up in it?” They are the ones leading it! They want to be put in prison, they want the consequences because that is “more proof” that they are the victims here. It’s a full on war on honesty. THey don’t give fuck one about facts, they don’t give fuck one about evidence all they care about is their gain, their power. Right now you have people on the right all the sudden talking about unity and how the left is making things worse by trying to hold those accountable completely ignoring the fact that their man in office has done NOTHING for unity in 5 years. Completely ignoring the fact that all but Romney and private person george conway and a few others have been enabling this fucker!
The majority of repubs have no shame, they have no morals, they have no dignity, no ethics and no integrity. There’s a NYT op Ed where this moron has said that dems don’t have a leg to stand on with the sicnic (capitol police who had his head bashed in with a fire extinguisher) murder because he was a trumper, as if that makes it ok!!! In the same op ed He also has actually attempted to rewrite history saying Biden and Schumer were responsible for middle east war after 9/11. This is beyond ridiculous! This is beyond Lies this is straight out of 1984 with the Ministry of Truth. This isn’t “the other side” unless, as I’ve said before, the other side of truth is lies. Then, yes, it is the other side. The other side of good and those have decided to embrace evil.
Nothing is going to happen to these people. trump will pardon them en masse. Which, as far as I am concerned, makes him an accessory. I believe all of his current and former staff that he has pardoned also makes him an accessory. THey committed those crimes for him or his administration, and probably at his request which means he benefits, by pardoning them shows that he’s an accomplice to the crime.
They’re dumb! they believe without a shred of evidence that the election was stolen. Which isn’t too hard to believe about them when you consider most, if not all of them would call themselves “religious.” A practice that believes in a deity without a shred of proof, also. They have let the TV tell them what to believe for literally decades now. They have gone through a school system that provides no learning for critical thinking. They’ve been taught “this person is in charge they will GIVE YOU the right answer.” They have no ability to think for themselves. It’d be funny if it wasn’t so damn dangerous
Yes it is. It actually is. It’s not all of them but all of THEM are conservatives.
I wouldn’t necessarily say that Twitter is the problem but it’s how he used it. Twitter and facebook are fine for communication modes but they certainly shouldn’t be replacing the press.
As I understand it. Yes, it still stands. The senate will vote to convict him or not. the consequences being whether he can run for future office rather than being removed since he’s already out
Is that really the situation? “They can’t… give people a better alternative than the guy who just attacked our own Capitol” or is that the lie that will be told over and over again to make it truth?
Also, think about what you just wrote… “the guy who just attacked the capitol” - How is he not locked up? but “both sides do it”.
Understatement of the year. instead of unacceptable,
I’d say criminal.
I don’t think any dems really need any cover from trump.
Isn’t it odd that the right screams and yells about hollywood and how the left is all in love with Hollywood and yet time and time again it’s the right that votes in these hollywood morons that fuck shit up. Arnold Schwartnesefsdfgger, ronald regan trump, jesse ventura, sonny bono… Who did the left elect? al franken? and that had to go to like 3 recounts. Who are the star struck ones?
He actually did it!! The son of a bitch made America great again!! (I stole that, but it’s still funny)
Yep, that was Loeffler, who lost in Georgia. There’s several articles on it. And she’s not the only one He did that to. He made one of the top state lawyers who didn’t “find” fraud resign outta Gerogia too. I’m sure you saw a trump had one of his minions send the swat team into a florida Scientists house because she wouldn’t lie for him about the covid numbers… Scary shit.
I imagine this will become the narrative out of trumpers and the sad thing is there is no way to know if it’s true because it’s completely believable. Who really knows if they sold out their conscience and their country for a grab at the ring or if they were really strong armed by trump. Who knows? Both are equally plausible.
Again, I think you are understating the importance of this. This is not just unpresidential. This is criminal. This is literal fascism/dictatorship/authoritarianism. He tried to seize control of the press and when he couldn’t he tried to delegitimize them. He fired ANYONE who would not do his bidding. He tried to overthrow a free election. George H W Bush made federal felonies punishable execution (Not sure if it’s been rewritten since) but this goes beyond federal felony. this is certainly treason. Actual treason, not what his supporters shout because he didn’t win.
I’M NOT calling for trump to be executed fro treason but he definitely needs to be made an example of because his whole entire term was proving that the president is above the law and he is not.To simply say he’s out now is not enough. A message needs to be sent loud and clear for the next person that tries this.
Just wait for when the transparency hits. OH MY GOD! Cheney had sense enough to shred his misdeeds with shredding companies As far as I know trump has done no such thing. It’s gonna get uglier when they see all the communications and shit hiding in databases. yikes!
Bless you for the job you do!
Funny how Obama had no problem releasing his transcript and trump threatened to sue anybody who released his.
One thing that’s probably gonna happen now that trump has stirred all this shit up ALLLLLLL of his shit is coming out! there’s no way he can keep up with all of the lawsuits. So, his grades, his taxes even that piss tape, if it’s real, is coming out! It’s just a matter of time.
There’s a big push now to recall NEWSOM. While not actively involved in it, I think he’s a pretty shitty Governor and wouldn’t mind seeing him replaced, but with who/what? I’ve actually not seen THAT part of the plan spelled out. I told my wife that this was all just a waste of time and energy unless and until the people pushing for it actually have an exciting and charismatic “new guy” ready that they can rally behind. I’ve only loosely been observing this bit, but it is kind of an echo of the Capitol storming in that a lot of people want to be part of a Revolution, but don’t really have any other boxes filled out on the flowchart.
Arnold Schwarzenegger is actually quite loudly condemning Trump and all the Republicans who have been going along with any such nonsense. I don’t like the guy (mostly for petty personal reasons) but it’s interesting to see these so-called Mavericks pitted against each other.
I’m referring to the big picture dialogue about how social media influences individual and group thought and behaviour and how it seems to have had a great impact and erosion of people’s willingness and ability to critically evaluate stuff and to take personal ownership of their mistakes. I don’t have any great answers to making shit better or anything. I just think that it’s an aspect of our society that we need to be very cautious of and something which we may need to consider including as part of both standard education and public health and safety issues.
Jello says it will still work, so that’s good enough for me, haha.
Well, because I’m honest I’m gonna agree with you and say yeah he probably deserves a recall…
If I was a partisan hack I’d say nobody can do well in this covid climate, and to cut the guy a break.
Ultimately I think the fact that he can’t remain consistent in his leadership is going to be his undoing, but that’s all there is too it… and yeah, replace him with who? so because there isn’t a viable option maybe he survives recall.
That’s really nice of him, and he’s been doing that as far back as Jan 7th of 2021. but the truth-be-told I was really speaking about his shitty leadership of california and how he almost bankrupted the state. It really seems that when we elect republicans we either lose alot of money or people die, or both.
I got ya’. I personally don’t think that’s squarely at the feet of social media. It’s been here. It’s Fox, It’s the OAN network, it’s glenn beck’s stupid network, It’s AM Radio, It’s influencers (even before social media) like nugent. I think social media just made it convenient.
try, denied 6 times!!!
LEFT DIDNDU NUFFIN
RIGHTS ARE TO BLAME
© grmpy, totally not indoctrinated by Marxism
Trump impeached…
I have some peach flavored Whiskey. I think I posted about it awhile back. How’s the Vodka taste?
I like it. I don’t generally drink fruity stuff, but it’s 90 proof and I quite like the flavor, and really like the heat, haha. I’ve only been drinking it straight, so I’m not sure how it is as a mixer. I’d maybe try it in a lemonade or something rightly sour since it’s already pretty sweet.