fuck that was long… [blush]
Those who are saying stupid and obnoxious things are obviously just taking the piss and looking to wind you up. Don’t take the bait. You’re provoking them even further into doing so. It’s fucking childish and going nowhere quickly.
However, the people trying to wind up Toot, et al. have nothing funny to say whereas Toot retaliates with frankly hilarious comments about “The Baboon 3” (one of my favorite pieces of message board terms ever) proving that you can hold a non-racist (read “p.c.” for those who can only think in those terms) stance and still be funnier than those who can make the easy racially oriented jokes.
In short, even outside of any political or moral perspective: Toot: 10 points Baboon 3: 0 points
The Baboon 3 are going to have try harder or take a hike from this thread.
And ps: Anyone who doesn’t get why calling GW Bush a chimp carries a totally different resonance than calling B Obama the same is either willfully ignorant, dumb or living with their head in a vat of cold chicken fat.
K. Life, Aboriginies, baboons, migration, repatriation, political correctness, hypocrisy, sanctimony, stigmata newscasts, Paul Barker is fucking awesome, fascism… there’s something missing though:
That’s better
Mick, I swear you are a mad cunt, uleh [laugh]
K. Life, Aboriginies, baboons, migration, repatriation, political correctness, hypocrisy, sanctimony, stigmata newscasts, Paul Barker is fucking awesome, fascism… there’s something missing though:
That’s better
Sexy chicks are almost as gay as the Baboon 3.
Listen you whiny pack of bitches, if you think Voidhead’s comment was racist then say your bit and then be done with it. We don’t need page after page of the fuckin’ history of the world and everything the white man has done to exploit indigenous people over the last 300 or so years as summed up by some pissed off Ministry fans. Those who are saying stupid and obnoxious things are obviously just taking the piss and looking to wind you up. Don’t take the bait. You’re provoking them even further into doing so. It’s fucking childish and going nowhere quickly…
That sounded like you just just ate some bait and went ape (no pun intended!) shit! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Toot, you do obviously have a chip on your shoulder about how black people are treated by whites in general. You’ve turned a discussion on Kevin Rudd into an out and out assault on certain ‘racist’ (???) forum members - [reply]
I suppose I shall have to defend myself here …If the Baboon 3 hadn’t have been numptys and not continued to be numptys through-out the thread we could’ve continued the all-out assault on K-Rudd for daring to say sorry for whatever it is he’s saying sorry for this time. Sadly they have not so until such time this saga shall continue. If you don’t like it…I suggest you beat it as this is the coolest thread we’ve had for ages and we aren’t letting some apathetic wanna-be prongs authority wreck it!
[reply]Or is that your problem? You’re a timid little beastie who wouldn’t dare say half the things you harp on about here for fear of getting your head knocked off by people who don’t sit in front of their computers all day, make believing they are saving mankind from ‘racists’?
I’d say that’s probably a little more like it.
Maybe so…maybe no…but remember…this is the internet and we are free to say what we want…and if we happen to say ugly shit we should expect a backlash. And just so you know…I’m more than happy to challenge folk who make ugly and offensive remarks to me in real life too. Infact I’m 280 ponds of pure muscle and destroy everything in my path.
I find it interesting you’re throwing just as big a sissy hissy fit as the Baboon 3 towards our direction while completely ignoring Peligro’s latest remark which was fucking disgusting. On top of that the Baboon 3 and yourself are the only ones here posting furious replies and crying to mama. I’m actually lovin it…although there have been some sad shocks along the way.
This is an ugly thread…but you know what…you guys are the only ones making it ugly. Everytime one of you clowns posts ugly garbarge, Toot and his Posse have to painstakingly clean the shit up!
Next…
But of course homosexuals are not yet at the same position as blacks where the word “faggot” has come to carry as much weight and be as much of a politically incorrect no-no as the word “nigger”, so in PC land it’s totally ok (albeit childish and inane) for Toot to say something is “gay” (read: "stupid) but not for me to say a “black” person looks like a monkey. Idiotic really.
Hate to say it Toot, but how come you haven’t responded to this? Voidhead does make a good point, and you know it. You’ve talked non stop about racial prejudice and injustice, yet… you haven’t addressed this ‘issue’.
Actually the above statement by Voidhead is incorrect…the term “faggot” does indeed carry as much weight as “nigger” in todays society. I’m not sure where the heck Voidhead lives!!! But where I live it’s totally gay and unacceptable. It is offensive and hateful.
You will see I do indeed refer to people such as Peligro, Smurf, Voidhead, Olsen and a hell of alot more people as being totally gay. Infact I refer to myself as being totally gay for certain bands and I also refer to my girlfriend as being totally gay for the music and movies she likes etc…you will also notice however that I never use it as an offensive and hateful attack on homosexual folk let alone members of the forum…you will also notice I never refer to folk as “faggots”. The reason being it’s offensive and hateful.
I hope this clears things up with regards to Voidhead’s so-called good point.
At the end of the day…Voidhead’s original remark had a racist undercurrant whether on purpose or not.
Peligro’s on the other hand have been blatant.
Although I’m having a ball with this thread I have to admit the upsetting thing for me is the lack of people pulling Peligro up and the Baboon 3 being blind to the reasons behind some people here being a little pissed.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!
I love how Olsen screamed this in his hissy fit…
We don’t need page after page of the fuckin’ history of the world
Then Evil Dildo posted this the very next post!
It has gone waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too far now to sit on the fence my friend.
At the risk of sounding like a turd… but I reiterate, I weighed my two cents in from a scientific perspective, not one that invited digressive and inane name calling! From what I perceive anyway, fence sitting is nicer than flagpole sitting.
Fuck, I hate that fucking song.
I’ll be Mussolini
I’m going to be massively flamed for this.
But… Fascism in it’s purest form was an Italian ideology and institution. It never revolved around race theory to begin with; moreso, a national identity in which anyone could participate (I shit you not; there were Jews in the Fascist bureaucracy pre-Axis agreement). It only digressed toward the anti-Semitism once we sold our soul to the Germans to protect our arses (something every Italian should be, and remains, ashamed of; the general citizenry at this time was pissed about it, anyway). Anti-semitism was not part of Fascist ideology in it’s purest form.
Hell, Mussolini wanted to align Italy with France in 1930, but was basically overruled by his own bureaucracy. Keep in mind all that anti-Semitic Teutonic diatribe only came to prominence when the ‘Prussians’ lost the 1871 war against France. Jews were scapegoated then by the Germans, and ever since. Consider the fact that Nazi Germany cannot be considered Fascist in any true sense of the word; just like China can’t be considered truly communist. The Nazi’s were an opportunistic almagamation of a series of social control methods extracted from a disparate number of political ideologies; democracy included. I therefore relegate the Nazi’s to the status of politcal irrelevance (however, they are still historically relevant for all the wrong reasons, obviously).
Did Mussolini do a lot of good things for Italy? Whether anyone likes it or not, yes. Don’t get me wrong, acts of brutality did occur, but generally only in the later stages of the war, and usually at the behest of the Germans.
Up until then, the most ‘extreme’ punishments meted out by ‘Fascists’ were not by Fascists themselves, but by their followers; to the extent, that there were fears by the very Fascist bureaucracy itself that these ‘random acts’ could well jeopardise their tenuous grip on power in the early stages, and generally discouraged it. When they did exert force, it was only against dissidents and generally entailed imprisonment and the stripping of their liberty.
Is that the right thing to do? Is that acceptable?
Universally speaking, no. But, how is it our Western democracies have engaged in this behaviour, and worse, against their own people? Even if it is supposedly justified in a ‘state of emergency’?
At the very least, these measures meted out by Mussolini were a dark necessity; Italy was disunified, had no healthcare or education systems, and was in a perpetual state of violence; I’ve heard plenty of stories from the old country about how you couldn’t even take a train without the increased prospect of getting mugged or whatever.
Consider the power we give to the state; read Thomas Hobbe’s ‘Leviathan’ for more insight on this. The reality is, the natural state of man is one that often digresses into disorder and war. Hence, some institution is required to moderate the violent nature of man which in turn requires a forsaking of certain rights to maintain the power of this ‘state’.
In the West, we shouldn’t (but we do [mad]) have to forsake many of our rights to maintain this state; we have a democratic process instituted to the extent of allowing for civic discourse and participation. However, consider what pre-Fascist Italy was; to galvanise the state, this sacrificing of ‘rights’ was needed to a far greater extent to consolidate and guarantee the institution of a state; and from a state, comes order; you cannot deny this.
[b]I put this in bold text, because I want everyone to know this; I am not attempting to be controversial or fuck with anyone. If you find what I’m saying is offensive, that’s fine; tell me your point of view, because I’m open minded enough to be receptive to any points of view that don’t digress into personal attacks.
For that reason, I am able to articulate certain elements of ‘Fascism’ as much as I am able to discredit race theory. At the same time, there is a LITANY of things I see WRONG with Fascism. I remain utterly open minded, without apologies. I believe in nothing, and I follow nothing blindly. If you are going to flame me, so be it, but bear in mind I’m open to whatever it is you have to elucidate me with. [/b]
To Voidhead:
Why is it ok for G.W. Bush to be portrayed as a monkey in the media, but not Barack Obama?
I understand there is history involved. I understand that the statement invokes generations of “white” racism against “blacks”.
The reality is, however, that if we ever want to grow up and stop thinking in terms of race, political correctness (along with racism) has to go out the window.
I generally disagree with you on a lot of things, but Voidhead does make a good point here.
Don’t get me wrong, I disagree that political correctness has to go out the window totally.
I believe there should be a political sensitivity. There is no doubt certain cultures have borne the brunt of the policies or injustices of another culture.
There is no doubt certain peoples have copped a lot of shit because of the way they look, speak or think, and it’s often relative to culture. You can’t to throw political correctness out of the window, tread on peoples toes and think that’s going to fix the problem.
But at the same time, extreme political correctness and hypersensitivity DEFINITELY exacerbates the problem; it ends up feeding into racism.
Look at ‘wogs’ in Australia for example. My parents and grandparents copped a lot of shit when they first came here. But now, we don’t even consider the term wog offensive; we laughed at it. It became a big cultural joke. And, in effect, it lost it’s power. It’s a way of really sticking it to the man.
Laughter; the most disabling and empowering emotion in existence. The laughing Buddha. The laughing Jesus.
But of course homosexuals are not yet at the same position as blacks where the word “faggot” has come to carry as much weight and be as much of a politically incorrect no-no as the word “nigger”, so in PC land it’s totally ok (albeit childish and inane) for Toot to say something is “gay” (read: "stupid) but not for me to say a “black” person looks like a monkey. Idiotic really.
Hate to say it Toot, but how come you haven’t responded to this? Voidhead does make a good point, and you know it. You’ve talked non stop about racial prejudice and injustice, yet… you haven’t addressed this ‘issue’.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t go around telling people what’s right and wrong and what they should do in everyday life, but when other people do…
and don’t hold it against me tho, Toot, I still love you and want to birth your children through my anal cavity.
What do you think the appropriate gesture should be?
To carmangary:::
first priority for education and health; with regards to education, not a ‘well, if they wanna go to uni or college, let em go in with half the normal requirements’; just the appropriate institutions which cater to their culture and eventually assimilate them toward higher education (if anyone twists my use of the word assimilate, fuck them, because it goes hand in hand with equality; concessions do not).
Listen you whiny pack of bitches, if you think Voidhead’s comment was racist then say your bit and then be done with it. We don’t need page after page of the fuckin’ history of the world and everything the white man has done to exploit indigenous people over the last 300 or so years as summed up by some pissed off Ministry fans. Those who are saying stupid and obnoxious things are obviously just taking the piss and looking to wind you up. Don’t take the bait. You’re provoking them even further into doing so. It’s fucking childish and going nowhere quickly.
WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN TO OOOOOOLLLLSEEEENNN!
I have tried to avoid childish namecalling, or any bullshit.
I will say it again; I’ve just offered a rational, open minded and historically and scientifically conscious perspective.
There is no bias in what I am saying; hence, noone here can accuse me of taking sides.[/reply]
You rule Evil![cool]
BTW I edited my posts so I didn’t flood the thread with back to back posts.
Just thought I’d add that to clear up the edits on my last few posts.
Cheers Smurf!
As you were…
You rule Evil!
[blush][shocked]
[laugh]
I rule with an impartial and just hand. [angelic]
That is, when it isn’t wrapped firmly around my winkle over Kevin Rudd [cool]
RE: Aussie Ministry fan, I always say I was born a decade too late, so was too young for the BDO in question. I got into them from watching a RAGE metal special with stuff like Helmet, Soundgarden, NIN, RATM, and of course, Ministry. That special got me into a lot of those bands. Then I saw LORAH Psalm and MIATTT in a 3 pack for $20 or something, so I picked it up.
Yeah Rage was a great show.I remember many a night watching it for about 3-4 hrs straight in the slight hope of catching a Ministry or Melvins video.
Full Frontal’s piss take of Rage was hilarious!
[reply]RE: Aussie Ministry fan, I always say I was born a decade too late, so was too young for the BDO in question. I got into them from watching a RAGE metal special with stuff like Helmet, Soundgarden, NIN, RATM, and of course, Ministry. That special got me into a lot of those bands. Then I saw LORAH Psalm and MIATTT in a 3 pack for $20 or something, so I picked it up.
Yeah Rage was a great show.I remember many a night watching it for about 3-4 hrs straight in the slight hope of catching a Ministry or Melvins video.
Full Frontal’s piss take of Rage was hilarious![/reply]
I used to watch full frontal, but don’t recall their take on RAGE… hmm… wonder if theres any on youtube
Anyway, to address the thread topic…
KEVIN RUDD IS NOT MY FUCKING BOYFRIEND!!!
KEVIN RUDD IS NOT MY FUCKING BOYFRIEND!!!
We know that he isn’t!
We’re well aware your current boyfriend is John Howard as your first boyfriend Ivan Milat broke up with you when he was banged up.[cool]
This clip sums up this place perfectly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRqJgDTIAck
HAHAHAHAHAA!!!
Those folk are more like a combination of Einstein & Noam Chomsky when compared to the Baboon 3.
Wait; who were the baboon 3 again?
Seriously, that name is so daft, though.
EDIT:
Just watched that video.
Fucking hell.
Funnily enough, I yell and scream and rant and rave every morning on the way to uni in my car. It’s totally impractical to drive, but if I didn’t, I wouldn’t be able to decompress and save the lives of hundreds of innocent people at the place.
[laugh]
I kid, I just yell along to Damaged and Black Flag songs first thing in the morning and start the day with a great frame of mind [:)]
Wait; who were the baboon 3 again?
The infamous Baboon 3 are Voidhead, Peligro & Smurf…although Olsen is currently undergoing the brutal initiation rite of passage ceremony where he has to watch Every Which Way But Loose & Any Which Way You Can back to back and hurl obscenities at Clyde for looking like an Orangutan.
Prongs has become a dangerous and fertile breeding ground for The Baboon 3 Organisation.
Below is the only known picture of the Baboon 3’s leader Voidhead…
Everybody loves chicken.
[laugh]