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…if you asked me though, i would have said the poop is fake.
You’re probably right which is why he won’t answer my questions … cause he can’t!
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The poop is pretty decent looking. But it’s friggin’ MASSIVE. It also seems too solid, but I don’t know what this guy eats or what diameter missile he can launch out of his silo.
I don’t even know what to say to grmpy’s scatological nonsense here but I will say:
the turd was real.
a lot of people have said the same thing, that it looks fake and it DID
it was really quite huge and actually quite hard. Not at all as I expected a turd to feel. It was not messy at all thankfully. It wasn’t one of those ones where you have to wipe your ass six thousand times after. If you look closely, a small piece of it falls off as I lifted it from the water, which I found amusing. I think maybe the turd was an entire burrito I ate before passing out the night before. I don’t remember now what I had eaten.
(this footage was filmed winter of last year and only now did I figure out what to do with it)
For those who do not believe the turd was real or want another funny insight, I pose you this question:
would a fake turd that was made of, say, a brownie rub off CLEAR ooze on to the lens of the camera (I’m referring to the very end of the video)??
That was another odd thing about the experience. I was surprised that this turd was so solid that what came off was actually a clear oily smudge and not what you would expect: a brown oozey paste.
what is the purpse of this?
some visuals that I think are important is the contrast of lipstick and shit both being applied to the lips in terms of interpreting on an abstract level.
this is more of an abstract art video piece so there is no clear cut message or meaning. It was meant to be viral and to cause a collective “what the fuck??” and also degrade me as a human being in people’s eyes.
part of the reason I did this was, as Gunnar said, to exercise ultimate free will which, in my thinking, is to do something socially unacceptable and dehumanizing not because you want to do it but precisely because you DON’T WANT to do it.
We are predisposed to make choices that will benefit us in a given situation and we are socially conditioned so thoroughly to not do certain things that true free will to me is to do something you really don’t want to do that is socially embarrassing, potentially devastating.
Consider that my boss is friends with me on Facebook and follows what I do with Nursing Home. When I posted my suicide video entitled “???” (see above in this thread), I accompanied it with a suicide note message to fans of Nursing Home on facebook and he is one of them. He expressed great concern (as did many friends and family) and I told him it was fake. He was a bit weirded out but he is a creative guy (we work in tv) so he seemed to get it.
But with this video which I have to assume he’s seen, he has said nothing and neither have my other coworkers, some of whom I expect have seen it.
All of this is risky because the freakier they think I am, I become more of a liability.
This is social conditioning as well. Even my boss who is a very smart and creative guy (and has in fact viewed and commented on SALO in a discussion we had) will be made uncomfortable by this video, because he personally knows me and he has a vested interest in me NOT being some crazy psycho fuck who will shoot up the office on day.
But isn’t all of this so silly that this little video and act of free will could be so potentially degrading and embarassing in the eyes of other people?
The reason I find “shocking” things inspiring is because they reveal the power of the communication and the fact of how unevolved we still are as a culture and species. They reveal an animal side to us by eliciting immediate mental and emotional reactions that everyday art does not release.
When you think about it, is it really so ludicrous to want to touch your own feces to see what the fuck it smells and feels like? You spend your entire life shitting it out and it lands in a wet bowl and you never even make contact with these little abortions your asshole continually spews out. You never even know exactly what they are like, because you are so thoroughly socially conditioned to not ever touch that waste matter, conditioned that it is disgusting and repulsive.
Well yes it smells and yes it’s disgusting but it’s really not so degrading after all I took a shower washed my hands and now, a year later, I’m still here alive and breathing. Smoking a cigarette or drinking a beer or driving a car is certainly more stupid than rubbing shit on your face when your ultimate main goal and need in life is animalistic self-preservation as it is for most of us when it comes down to it.
I am willing to wager that as a baby or small child while toilet training most of us tried to or actually did touch our own feces out of simple chidlike curiosity. But now the very idea seems completely insane to us, repulsive and degrading.
It was that childlike state where there are no rules and boundaries and you just simple DO what you want at the spur of the moment even if it’s weird or freaky, distasteful and has no clear benefit or reason, that’s what I find very inspiring.
grmpy you do not have the ability to replicate this piece for a multitude of reasons, but the most obvious is that social conditioning and your pride will not allow you to do this act. Yes you don’t WANTto do it, duh, but you also lack the balls to prove me wrong and do it to prove your point.
So you not only lose the debate because you won’t prove me wrong by attempting to replicate my art (and thereby prove it’s not art…or that it’s a lesser form of art or whatever the fuck your convoluted and absolutely asinine"point" is here), but the fact you spent what I would surmise amounts to more than twenty minutes typing out responses and comments about a still image preview of a 90 second video you never actually watched is actually more retarded than rubbing shit on your face WITHOUT a camera present for no purpose whatsoever in my opinion.
If good art is supposed to elicit emotion, discussion and reaction then I’d say this particular piece is a more effective example of art in our modern context than the Mona Lisa.
However the Mona Lisa obviously required a greater mastery of a particular skill than this video did so I lose there.
Apples and oranges and really, the point you are making grmpy is totally unclear and pointless.
Yes my still image was not art in and of itself. NO SHIT sherlock!! (pun intended) But it was a fucking PREVIEW of a video which was the art piece.
You are clearly predisposed to not like what I do. That’s fine. Move along or post something worthwhile or better yet grow a fucking set and prove me wrong by making a parody video of this in which you rub your own shit on your face to prove your “point”.
Preach it, Brothaman!
I don’t even know what to say to grmpy’s scatological nonsense here but I will say:
You said scat! Damn from the lips to constantly on the
brain!
(this footage was filmed winter of last year and only now did I figure out what to do with it)
Bullshit, that’s from 2 weeks ago Wednesday!
For those who do not believe the turd was real or want another funny insight, I pose you this question:
would a fake turd that was made of, say, a brownie rub off CLEAR ooze on to the lens of the camera (I’m referring to the very end of the video)??
It probably would if you rubbed vasoline on it first!
some visuals that I think are important is the contrast of lipstick and shit both being applied to the lips in terms of interpreting on an abstract level.
DING DING DING So I was right! Women slather lipstick on their face. That behavior is not natural (except that it is- beauty is necessary for women to make themselves attractive in order to fulfill their motherhood urges)as well as the lip stick itself. However, shit is natural but that’s “disgusting” to point on your face
It was meant to be viral and to cause a collective “what the fuck??” and also degrade me as a human being in people’s eyes.
What the fuck are you so mad at me for then? Mission accomplished! Heck’uva job void!
part of the reason I did this was, as Gunnar said, to exercise ultimate free will which, in my thinking, is to do something socially unacceptable and dehumanizing not because you want to do it but precisely because you DON’T WANT to do it.
How about just farting in front of a group of women and taping their reaction? Eating food off of someone strangers plate at a restaurant? Taking a dump in a public restroom with the stall door open? Standing at the urinal naked while peeing? Taking a dump in a urinal while the public is present? At the very least how about how about chewing with your mouth open at a restaurant? Those are all socially unacceptable situations! Tom Green does socially unacceptable way better than you! And he’s funnier too! Tom Green is a better artist than you!
We are predisposed to make choices that will benefit us in a given situation and we are socially conditioned so thoroughly to not do certain things that true free will to me is to do something you really don’t want to do that is socially embarrassing, potentially devastating.
Newsflash for you, artist!!! You in the privacy of your own bathroom, even with a video camera is not a social setting! You Munch that shit in a public bathroom outside of a stall, where you run the risk of getting she shit beat out of (your hand) of you or perhaps getting a phone number at best or even perhaps maybe even a few dollars out of the deal, that’s a social setting! Your “art” is weak your ideas are safe (except for the bacteria aspect). In the art word you’re a no weight coward!
Consider that my boss is friends with me on Facebook and follows what I do with Nursing Home. When I posted my suicide video entitled “???” (see above in this thread), I accompanied it with a suicide note message to fans of Nursing Home on facebook and he is one of them. He expressed great concern (as did many friends and family) and I told him it was fake. He was a bit weirded out but he is a creative guy (we work in tv) so he seemed to get it.
But with this video which I have to assume he’s seen, he has said nothing and neither have my other coworkers, some of whom I expect have seen it.
All of this is risky because the freakier they think I am, I become more of a liability.
You are giving yourself too much credit! They may just think you’re stupid! Ever consider that?
This is social conditioning as well.
Really? You’re socially conditioning those around you? To what? No you’re not!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.Really I’m trying not to laugh I promise but it’s hard!
Even my boss who is a very smart and creative guy (and has in fact viewed and commented on SALO in a discussion we had) will be made uncomfortable by this video, because he personally knows me and he has a vested interest in me NOT being some crazy psycho fuck who will shoot up the office on day.
Hasn’t fired you yet can’t be that smart!
But isn’t all of this so silly that this little video and act of free will could be so potentially degrading and embarassing in the eyes of other people?
Not really. I think grabbing a girls butt who looks likes your wife from the back but then turns out to not be her, carries what you’re talking about better cause that actually is a social setting.
The reason I find “shocking” things inspiring is because they reveal the power of the communication and the fact of how unevolved we still are as a culture and species.
How stupid are you? You think eating a turd is evolution? Jesus!!! Is there no bottom to your retardedness? For many, turd eating is not “Shocking” go hang with those people to see just how shocking it’d not.
They reveal an animal side to us by eliciting immediate mental and emotional reactions that everyday art does not release.
So does eating and fear and any other animal like instinct… Why must you munch scat to realize that? Perhaps you’re unevolved?
When you think about it, is it really so ludicrous to want to touch your own feces to see what the fuck it smells and feels like?
Does one really need to think about it? Especially since you don’t smell through your fingers (Hey I just farted I wonder what the product tastes like?) and you feel it coming out of your ass.
You spend your entire life shitting it out and it lands in a wet bowl and you never even make contact with these little abortions your asshole continually spews out. You never even know exactly what they are like, because you are so thoroughly socially conditioned to not ever touch that waste matter, conditioned that it is disgusting and repulsive.
Social has nothing to do with it. We are wired through nature to disregard our own feces. Apparently you are challenging the memo? That doesn’t make you a pioneer that makes you illiterate or in another attempt to get fired. You don’t challenge memos from management, especially when they make sense.
Well yes it smells and yes it’s disgusting but it’s really not so degrading after all I took a shower washed my hands and now, a year later, I’m still here alive and breathing. Smoking a cigarette or drinking a beer or driving a car is certainly more stupid than rubbing shit on your face when your ultimate main goal and need in life is animalistic self-preservation as it is for most of us when it comes down to it.
Dude you’re a social tool!!! You took a shower? I bet you used soap and shampoo and put on deodorant and clothes too!!! When you think about it, how degrading would it be to go out in the world with your normal stink and JUST the clothes that god gave you?? Damn your tame!!!
BTW Smoking a cigarette and drinking a beer are not more stupid than eating poop in that those don’t kill you for years (outside factors regarding the beer drinking aside) whereas shit eating can kill you in a matter of days.
driving a car has a useful purpose and is also more safe than eating bacterial laden poop
so much for your arguments for the “ultimate main goal and need in life is animalistic self-preservation” seeing as those don’t have nearly the faster ability for death.
I am willing to wager that as a baby or small child while toilet training most of us tried to or actually did touch our own feces out of simple chidlike curiosity. But now the very idea seems completely insane to us, repulsive and degrading.
Because we are no longer children and have passed the little professor stage of life! You have either forgotten or think it’s fun to wax nostalgic.
It was that childlike state where there are no rules and boundaries and you just simple DO what you want at the spur of the moment even if it’s weird or freaky, distasteful and has no clear benefit or reason, that’s what I find very inspiring.
No boundaries huh? Let me see a 6 mos old drive a car somewhere. Let me see a 2 year old run a marathon?
grmpy you do not have the ability to replicate this piece for a multitude of reasons, but the most obvious is that social conditioning and your pride will not allow you to do this act. Yes you don’t WANTto do it, duh, but you also lack the balls to prove me wrong and do it to prove your point.
Not ungh! I’ll do it, I’ll do it, I’ll eat shit for the camera!! I’ll prove you wrong? you just wait!!
What are you 7?
Don’t kid yourself. I have the ability. Everyone has the ability. Social conditioning has ZERO to do with it. Self preservation has everything to do with it (and I don’t mean socially). Trust me, if my farts smelled like chocolate cake, I’d probably take a bite (bacteria aside) but they don’t. They smell horrific. nature’s way of saying “this buffet is closed!”
So you not only lose the debate because you won’t prove me wrong by attempting to replicate my art (and thereby prove it’s not art…or that it’s a lesser form of art or whatever the fuck your convoluted and absolutely asinine"point" is here),
You don’t get to play “contestant” and “judge” especially when you admittedly don’t know what my point is. How could you give an honest ruling? You can’t. The debate rages on!! Although, it’s really more of a discussion more than a debate. You are hungry… to win though!
but the fact you spent what I would surmise amounts to more than twenty minutes typing out responses and comments about a still image preview of a 90 second video you never actually watched is actually more retarded than rubbing shit on your face WITHOUT a camera present for no purpose whatsoever in my opinion.
Why? Explain your opinion? You threw a still up there, I commented. I had an opinion on your still. What’s wrong with that? You really think I wouldn’t have had an opinion?
If good art is supposed to elicit emotion, discussion and reaction then I’d say this particular piece is a more effective example of art in our modern context than the Mona Lisa.
You’re pretty much the only one giving off the reaction… I just had questions and you flipped out. You are kinda like the comedian and the audience, the debator anfd the judge, the child and the adult well maybe not that last one but I sense a pattern here.
BTW how many people have reacted to the Mona Lisa? How many people have reacted to your art? Case dismissed (hey it’s fun to be the “judge” and the “contestant”!)
However the Mona Lisa obviously required a greater mastery of a particular skill than this video did so I lose there.
You sure do, buddy. You sure do. And that’s all I’m saying, really.
Apples and oranges and really, the point you are making grmpy is totally unclear and pointless.
Nope, you call you eating your make art, others call the mona lisa art. Boy you don’t understand much do you? Last line you said I was right, but then right here you’re saying you don’t understand what I’m saying… which is it? Do you even know anymore? Did you ever know?
Yes my still image was not art in and of itself. NO SHIT sherlock!! (pun intended) But it was a fucking PREVIEW of a video which was the art piece.
So you are agreeing with me again? If you know that your still image was not art why did you get so hostile with me for saying that it wasn’t art?? Conflicted much?
You are clearly predisposed to not like what I do. That’s fine.
How so? you had a couple nice hooks before but for the most part it’s not my thang. But I don’t know how that makes me “predisposed” I was born to not like your brand of mediocrity? Under what criteria?
Move along or post something worthwhile
First off, don’t tell me what the fuck to do. You’re going to post your shit on an open forum I’m going to chime in you know this. second of all there have been plenty of times I have just ignored your crappy music and said nothing or gave you a throw away compliment. Now you have a problem with me cause I have child like questions??? That makes no sense especially since you are eating shit in order to be like a carefree child… are you jealous cause I achieved, with a half a dozen questions, what you couldn’t achieve by recycling a burrito?
or better yet grow a fucking set and prove me wrong by making a parody video of this in which you rub your own shit on your face to prove your “point”.
I’ve already proven you wrong without eating my own poop. While childlike often, It’s cause I choose to be, but I’m not so childlike in that I can be tricked/fooled/bullied into being your scat eating buddy.
I look forward to your response!
you are endlessly entertaining!!
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grmpysmrf
[laugh] This thread is sure a barrel full of laughs! I haven’t read everything back and forth between Void and Grumpy, but I’ll throw in my two cents:
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The shit-eating video is actually quite entertaining. I like the teeth and the sound effects and that scene with the candle and those eye contacts was very expressive. The shit eating I felt kind of ruined it and made something that was kind of fun and quirky seem to be trying too hard to be extreme and shocking. I still doubt that the turd was real, it seems to me you’d have to eat lots of pure protein to get a turd of that consistency, not to mention if it was that hard you probably would have spent a good part of the day on the toilet. Real or not, I found the effect to be more comical than disgusting, and maybe Voidhead that interests you, the different reactions people may have; but the reason I found it humorous was because I was thinking “damn, that Voidhead, what a fucking attention whore!”
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Voidhead is actually smarter than I thought he was, he has ideas behind what he is doing and articulates them well enough, they just aren’t all that original. Read up on art movements of the 60’s through the 80’s and I think you’ll find that all of this ground has been covered before. Coum Transmissions, Andres Serrano, etc… Voidhead is no genius, but hey people are giving him attention like he wants aren’t they?
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Sorry Voidhead if I was a little too harsh towards you in previous posts. I still think you are an attention whore and that its pretty lame to brag on the internet about doing sick shit to barely legal groupies. If I were you I would concentrate on music unless you think your little shock act can actually do something truly shocking that really makes people jump out of their shells. How about on-stage suicide? I’m not saying I want you to kill yourself but hey, G.G. Allen (who’s already done way more shocking shit than you have) was too much of a pussy to do it, why not shoot high for rock legendry? [:)]
I did it all for the Dookie!!!
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii11/asaythree/poopypottytraining1.jpg
By the way, you wanna talk about weird societal hangups. Check out that photo I just posted. I just noticed the weird protective editing. It’s a naked kid crapping all over . . . . and yet we’re worried someone is going to freak out over seeing his baby ding ding?
The editing makes the photo 100 times more creepy. They could’ve just put the old school black stripe there. Instead, it looks like some genetic mutation, or that the kid lost his junk in a bad lawnmower accident or something.
Look at the book on the backk of the toilet!!
“I am a mother”
Wonder what chapter this photot is covered in?
Btw the shit eating ground has been covered at least since the marquis de sade.
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grmpysmrf
That pic is fucking gross and not office friendly at all. Hopefully this post will be long enough to knock us to 4 pages so I never have to see that fucking gross naked child again.
That pic is fucking gross and not office friendly at all. Hopefully this post will be long enough to knock us to 4 pages so I never have to see that fucking gross naked child again.
Says you? Words fail me! That kid has no boundaries you adore him!
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grmpysmrf
This is the only appropriate response.
art is all relative. i mean, if someone, anyone really, says something is art then it is. maybe it isnt art that you care for or are at all interested in, but that doesnt stop it from being art.
example, this video, its art. it isnt something i am 100% in love with, but it doesnt stop it from being something that Void says is art. so who am i to contest that? im nto the grand master of all things art. so i accept that and move on.
saying something isnt art is a silly thing to do. it makes you sound… like a child. just because anyone CAN do something doesnt mean that anyone HAS done it. yes, every human being has the physical ability to eat shit. BUT the overwhelming majority of people dont do it. when you do the exact same thing, then you have SOME room to be condemning. but even then, its still art… just possibly shitty art.
as a someone who makes music, photographs and writings i spend most of my time around art in one for or another. and i have come to the conclusion that art is bigger than the artist. there are people who make art who arent artists, while their are even artists who dont make art. but if you call something art, it just is.
… but even then, its still art… just possibly shitty art.
I can agree with that!
The analogy I can think of is a “torture-porn” slasher movie like Saw versus a film like Psycho. Both are “art” within their own rights. It’s just that a film like Saw tries so hard to be shocking with it’s visual depictions of torture and gore, and it does have the effect of shocking a squeamish audience, yet it feels cheap, like the director took the easy way out.
Psycho on the other hand used well-crafted psychological horror and suspense in it’s cinematography and storytelling with very little use of gore. Hitchcock knew that what you didn’t show and merely suggested was just as important (if not more so) than what you do show, so Psycho too plays with human emotions, but in a way that is just more intellectually clever and in the end is much more compelling and creative, and therefore a higher piece of art than any Saw film.
I think you know which way I’m suggesting Voidhead’s art leans. Some of his stuff shows potential if he’d just get over the juvenile shock act.
[reply]That pic is fucking gross and not office friendly at all. Hopefully this post will be long enough to knock us to 4 pages so I never have to see that fucking gross naked child again.
Says you? Words fail me! That kid has no boundaries you adore him!
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grmpysmrf[/reply]
When the guy who eats poop calls me out for indecency it’s probably time for serious some serious self-examination.
I fixed the link, by the way, for those who have been conditioned by society to recoil in horror at the image of a mutant-crotched toddler taking a sloppy dump.
You should release a limited edition Nursing Home single with real poo smeared on the record sleeve. Because that’s never been done before, has it?
This thread is fucked.
[reply][reply]That pic is fucking gross and not office friendly at all. Hopefully this post will be long enough to knock us to 4 pages so I never have to see that fucking gross naked child again.
Says you? Words fail me! That kid has no boundaries you adore him!
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grmpysmrf[/reply]
When the guy who eats poop calls me out for indecency it’s probably time for serious some serious self-examination.
I fixed the link, by the way, for those who have been conditioned by society to recoil in horror at the image of a mutant-crotched toddler taking a sloppy dump.[/reply]
I like the fact that he’s all of the sudden the voice of reason even though he was the first to post a poop pic!! Perhaps if the kid would’ve been licking his fingers that would have been image worthy rather than link worthy… Whadya think Void? I think we need a ruling on this?
You know, it’s “inspiring” how capricious kids are!!!
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grmpysmrf