Both, unfortunately. There is no actual scarcity, from what I can tell, just the market going HWHAT to people panic buying en masse. As soon as we have it, it’s gone in the first hour.
I also primarily work deli and not stock, so I might be like 5% off base, but still. It’s not like HOLY FUCK THERE IS ACTUAL NONE, it’s just demand outweighing a store’s ability to buy???
This toilet paper situation is really weird specially when you have a bidet. Do you guys have bidets in the US? Almost every place here has a bidet but I think nobody uses it. I have one and never used it but if the toilet paper fails me…
And why all this bathroom words come from French?
He didn’t invent the modern toilet. He was a plumber in france who invented the ballcock mechanism that fills the tank with water. So, he improved on the toilet but didn’t invent it. Maybe splitting hairs but still.
Not sure how you think creating something that goes with the toilet is the same as inventing the modern toilet. But sure, You got it. You win. You are RIGHT.
Wikipedia says that though is often claimed that crap originated with Thomas Crapper, that is not the case. Only ten years after Mr. Crapper was born you can find the use of the expression crapping ken, meaning the house where you take a crap.
Maybe your reality is the right one. Maybe wikipedia is wrong. I mean, that’s a huge coincidence that a prominent innovator of the place where you take a crap is called crapper.
It’s a fuckin’ shit show, bro. Many of the counties in my state, and I would assume across the nation, are pretty much doing their own thing. My county’s schools won’t be going back to school until at least May 4.
However that date is probably going to extend as the numbers in my county keep rising. Right now we’re 125 confirmed in the county with 5 dead. (My town is about 60 miles away from the town that that 17 year old kid that died because hospitals wouldn’t treat him because he had no insurance. I think that story went national. It’s LA county but we butt up next to it) There are 5 confirmed in my city, but 13 confirmed in the city where I teach. There’s a HUGE Kaiser Hospital there, and I imagine they are going to get a buttload more patients. (Assuming they’re testing people. In my town the Kaiser Hospital isnt testing anyone. They’re just telling people who come in to “assume you have it and quarantine for 3 weeks and keep us updated”)
As far as the teaching aspect is concerned, we’re doing what they’re calling distance learning. All it is though is grade recovery and extra credit. The teachers are not allowed to introduce any new concepts to the students in my district. It’s all basically late work turn in to help their 3rd quarter grades (Which may end up becoming their 4th quarter grades as well) and extra credit assignments which provide review of this past year’s concepts.
All of our district’s students got lap top computers so we’re posting the extra credit assignments on line, We’re an extremely poor school so even though the student’s have laptops many don’t have internet connection at home, so they’re making hard copies for kids to come pick up at the district office.
Teachers in my and my wife’s district are still expected to check in everyday between 8 and 9 through virtual roll (Following a link the admin sends out in the school email ) and then some times (At least twice a week sometimes 3 times and even more for me because I’m a member of two departments) we have virtual meetings on Microsoft teams. Where admin tells us updates on what the county and the district is doing, or telling us to get lesson plans together so they can make hard copies for kids to pick up.
I teach English and Special Education So I have English meetings and SpEd meetings and right now the SpEd is a joke! They want us to still hold IEP meetings (Through Skype) for services that these kids aren’t going to be getting because they’re not in the classroom and not only that, they want us to still hold IEP meetings for services they aren’t going to be getting for work that is NOT mandatory and will NOT hurt their grade if they don’t turn it in. Even further, IEP meetings require signatures, kinda hard to do all over skype, and often times it requires an interpreter (our school has a 97% latino population) because the parents don’t speak English.
SpEd needs to go on pause, truly. There’s no kind of accommodations that teachers can give over the computer or packet work. I teach 9th grade (Freshmen) and many of these kids won’t turn the work in when it is mandatory, now that they know if they do nothing they will get the same grade as 3rd quarter nothing’s gonna come in. It’s really a “why bother?” situation with me an my 9th grade team, BUT admin says we gotta give them “just in case” work so that’s what we’re doing. My wife’s district is doing something similar with slight variations. She teaches seniors and AP English for juniors so her kids are way more motivated to do this stuff than mine.
But yeah, that’s the scoop at least where I’m at in So. Cal.
I really couldn’t tell ya. I deal with 9th grade sub humans. They’re all dumb. Many get kicked in their 10th or 11th grade year to a credit recovery school. Others get their shit together and graduate and others always had their shit together and will be fine.
Much of their ignorance isn’t their fault, though. About 20 years ago California kicked Spelling out of the grammar school curriculum, on the assumption that “they’ll just learn spelling and vocab in the stories they read.” BIG mistake. The vast majority of students that come into my class (we’re talking like 96%) have NO vocabulary. So even though they get vocabulary in their stories (The bold words and what not) they don’t know the words that describe/define the bold words.
Spelling wasn’t just spelling. Spelling was word introduction and definition as well and that’s all gone. Dictionaries and dictionarydotcom are of no use to them because they don’t know what the words mean that define the original word.
Before the shut down I was tutoring a girl after school whose Reading level was Kindergarten. (the person who did her IEP in junior high straight lied on her testing and said she was reading at 6th grade HA! not even close.) She knew phonics for all the letters but didn’t know how to blend consonants (like “CH” makes the “Chugh” sound) or rules for vowels (Like final E usually makes the first vowel say it’s name) or anything of that sort. So I’m trying to get her to use context clues to figure out the word she couldn’t read and one of the context clues was “Hen” and she had no idea what a hen was, and when I started asking about other words that she was able to sound out she didn’t know what those words meant either. Hen is easily a word that would’ve been in a 1st grade spelling book. but because she was never exposed to it she never learned what it was. So I went to my classes through out the day and started asking during reading if the students knew what many of the words meant and the vast majority had no idea. So even though our BOLD words have definitions they don’t know what those definitions mean cause they have no word base.
Their English vocabulary is like my spanish vocabulary. I hear a couple words in spanish and then I kinda guess at what’s being said. Well my english students are the same way. they pick up on a few words they know and all the academic vocab they just kinda guess at what’s being said. It’s so bad I have to rewrite standard definitions in simple terms they can understand.
What is there specifically to learn from this? This is completely unprecedented. There’s no plan for what’s going on here cause this has never happened before. I assume they will put some kinda action plan in place for a next time but right now they’re just feeling their way through. What works will be kept what doesn’t… scrapped.
Ummm. this is more than just a week off, dude. But as far as school closures due to weather, that has more to do with your location and school district than anything else. My district never has weather closures. Although, some days (Like 1 or 2 times every three years or so) I have to call in sick because there is a wreck so bad that it backs up traffic and alt routes to my work for hours so I just take the day off. Other times a part of the interstate gets snowed in and the CHP won’t let traffic pass. But my school goes on.
My wife’s district has anywhere between 3 and 5 snow day closures a year. She teaches in a mountain area and they get tons of snow. The District cancels classes because driving conditions become dangerous and if someone gets hurt or killed driving to school in those conditions it opens the district up for lawsuits. So, better safe than sorry.
The way work is organized probably is going to change because of all this situation. Some companies were already giving their employees days to work from home, and now with new routines being implemented some will stick to the future. With more and more jobs being dependent of just a computer and a good internet connection I think a solution like this would benefit employers and employees in many cases.
I’ve had a distant relative pass from this. I’m here in NYC, and it’s shut down, as are other places. I am reading comments that it’s overreaction but as much as this thing spreads exponentially (and it is tremendously exponential), it’s all about the rush of the hospitals. Currently, in NYC, they are not resuscitating certain patients, the hospitals have infected patients in hallways, a large ship has been sent over, and a hospital built with 1,100 beds. This isn’t even talking of the poorer countries that hardly have any infrastructure, like Iran, where a person is dying from this every 10 minutes.
It’s easy to say it’s an overreaction when we aren’t in contact with this scenario. In fact, doctors are saying we should have shut down way earlier. A few (young) doctors are clinging on to life in the ICU, as well here 
LOL. That never happened. It was suggested in the early to mid 90s, by some state important person (or maybe it was a college professor) that we start teaching or have classes in ebonics, but it was ridiculed and never got off the ground.
HAHA! this is actually what Texas currently does (Or did within the last 15 years) Their state tests are written at about the 4th grade level so they could go around bragging about how “smart” their seniors are. HAHA, it worked for a while cause everybody was trying to follow the Texas model and then about 2 or 3 years in someone took a look at the tests they were giving to their seniors and found out they only needed 3 crayons to get a passing score. HAHAHA.
I believe California is one of only a few states that actually test their seniors at grade level or 11th grade level (Or did). It’s an ugly situation. Our kids look dumb because the grade level tests they take are accurate to their grades level, but they’re not necessarily dumb as compared to the rest of the country. How well would our kids look if we were taking the Texas state test? How bad would Texas look if they were taking the California 12th grade test? Among other things that’s what common core was attempting to do, create a test that is equal across the board, so states like Texas couldn’t skew their numbers. So, consequently many of the states bitch about common core because it exposed the shady nature of their state testing.
Well, over all, the problem is one of economics. The laptop thing is a decent Idea (Although staff have reservations about it considering how poor our population is-stolen, sold to pawn shops, kids getting beaten up and taken from them) but it kinda falls flat when the kids don’t have reliable internet connections to receive and turn in work.
Sounds like a problem with your district. Ultimately, though, what would a “remote Learning day” look like versus just “school is closed today due to weather?” I doubt, in practice, you wouldn’t be able to tell them apart.
I’m sure we’ll end up there but Jesus I look at the Covid maps and the east coast is wrecked! the west coast is pretty red too but nothing like the east coast! (at least thats how it was the other day when I looked)
I was on that train in the beginning, but I was clearly wrong and the data I was interpreting, I was interpreting wrong as well. I’ve definitely changed Trains at this point.
The model you’re describing is called college. I think it’s unfair to apply the college structure to a system that is compulsory. They’re not the same things. The public school system is supposed to be a level playing field not, “fuck off if you can’t make it”.
I agree that is a recipe for failure. But I don’t follow…? Schools are supposed to provide make up times and give kids a break for turning in work on days that are shutdown…
The problem is is that school is compulsory and if you make students come to school in dangerous conditions and they get hurt then the school is liable. The things in the economy are not compulsory. You are not required to go to Joes Bar. So shutting down non essential services in the economy that aren’t compulsory isn’t the same thing as shutting down schools for the day because of dangerous road conditions or weather.
I hear what you’re saying, and on the surface I’d be inclined to agree with you but as you dig a little deeper it’s too easily corrupted and exploited. Students now have a built in excuse to skip school with no penalties or my car hit a patch of ice and was totaled because I was made to come to school in dangerous conditions, etc etc.
No professor, the ability to get to that education is level. that’s why there is bussing… Not the education itself being level.
Sure it is in situations like these BUT it’s not effective. you can’t make online education mandatory like regular school. So it’s not a “good solution” it’s an option but just like your earlier post about yahoo, the productivity isn’t there on the part of the kids because there’s no accountability.
If that’s the standard you’re going after, “better than nothing.” then sure and that’s what theyre doing So I don’t know why you’re bitching.
Piss off! you have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. We earn our pay 5 times over! you wouldn’t last 30 seconds in a 9th grade class and then thrown onto it trying to come up with curriculum that students can engage with and understand? You’re fucking useless!! You have no idea what you’e talking about. You try to teach kids with a kindergarten reading levels at a 9th grade level and then come talk to me about earning my pay. Suck a dick you piece of shit!
I’m done with your stupid fucking ignorant shit. go code some more job taking programs ASSHOLE.
Yes, I do nothing else. I’m not in multiple conference call meetings all day. I’m not creating work for students to MAYBE do if they feel like it. I’m not making calls to parents about their kids. I’m not communicating with other teachers about curriculum in other classes that I don’t teach because my SpEd kids may need help with it. No it’s prongs all the time arguing with your stupid uneducated ass.
You can take your right wing bullshit talking point about how teachers don’t earn their pay and stick them right up your pussy. You fucking piece of shit!
HOW ABOUT YOU GET OFF PRONGS AD HELP YOUR FUCKING HIGH SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN WITH THEIR REMOTE LEARNING?! HOW ABOUT YOU EARN YOUR FUCKING TITLE AS A FATHER?! HOW ABOUT YOU TAKE AN INTEREST IN YOUR CHILD’S EDUCATION?! TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY IN THEIR LEARNING?
Fuck you!!! I’ve said it before and I’ll probably say many more times. You are just the fucking worst. You are a horrible excuse for a human. Just an Insignificant little bitch trying to sound important on topics you have no understanding of. Thank god Fox news is there to tell you what to think otherwise you really would be a blob of wasted space that does nothing including pretend thinking.
Don’t respond to posts anymore dickhead.
Goddamn, I got a lot to catch up on, as there’s some interesting stuff (I actually do like learning about how different sectors – especially education – are trying to cope with this). Anyway, what I really needed to get to goes back to the discussion of toilets, toilet paper, and Mr. Thomas Crapper.
All this talk about toilets and crap but no one stopped to giggle at BALLCOCK?
Well, here’s me, doing my duty (haha, doody) as a goddamned red-blooded American, giggling at BALLCOCK…
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
There’s one thing that wonders me every time I think about it. You have the country Turkey and Peru. Turkey is also a bird and I think Peru means nothing to you.
But in Portuguese Turkey is Turquia, witch means nothing and Peru is Peru and it means… turkey!
What about that?
Seems like some alternate reality shit going on with language.
On the remote working/ education, I think it’s clear that we need to invest hard in making this more effective. But at least presently, I think we’re far less productive and effective working thusly. I can honestly say that for myself. I suck at it. I need an office environment and a work “community” to really thrive. I’m at home now and goddamn, I’m turning into a fucking vegetable despite my best efforts against it. Should I be on Prongs right now? Fuck no. But distractions are plenty and babysitters and supervision nowhere to be seen. I don’t like it like this. And I’m a fairly well disciplined and arguably mature adult. I can’t imagine any kids thriving in a remote learning environment. But . . . . that’s clearly an area that we ALL need to evolve in, even if only for contingency.
Agree with most everything posted here. There have been a lot of trade-offs with working remotely. Zoom meetings and Google hangouts have been really helpful. I don’t miss sitting in LA traffic either.
The chain I work for promised a 2 dollar per hour raise for this month, possibly longer depending on what happens from here on out. Not exactly hazard pay, but it’s something, and yo, I still gotta pay rent. Half the employees I talked to wound up not getting it this week.
Essential? More like “expendable.”
Day in and day out, I see people flagrantly disregard basic hygiene, much less distancing and quarantine procedure. Broke things off with a potential galpal a few days ago as she is violating quarantine procedure cuz she doesn’t “care about that COVID shit. I’m gonna live my best life, I don’t give a fuck.” The day she informed me of this, I had just lost a friend due to COVID-19.
I’m stuck in a city very, very far from everyone I want to take care of. My mother is now facing bankruptcy because of the pandemic and even if I could travel to where she is and take care of her, my line of work puts me right in the thick of things and she is considered high risk of mortality if she were to contract the 'rona. My pops works with vectors and diseases and is also high risk so when, not if, he gets it, he’s a goner. My sister didn’t vaccinate her kids, so if my niece and nephew get it, they’re likely dead due to either coronavirus or some other thing. My brother is a line cook on contract at the mo with his city to work soup kitchens, missions, and shelters, and has severe asthma, so if he gets it, he’s history, and his fiance is an RN who just had her floor put under quarantine. My grandmother is 82 with heart and immune disorders so she’s absolutely gone if she gets it. Both of my best friends have compromised immune systems, one minus a functioning liver and another with one kidney, and they’re toast if they get it.
Every single day I have to endure seeing people march their entire families around my store, touching glass and touching their faces. I have to see old folks shopping by themselves. I have to see mothers pushing strollers, the mothers wearing face masks, the kids without. I have to watch kids no older than ten come in and pick up non-necessities for their presumably deadbeat parents. I have to watch homeless folks get arrested for trying to panhandle. I have to watch people just casually chatting and hugging in the aisles when I haven’t been able to so much as touch another person in over two fucking months.
Everyone has so much to lose, and for the first time maybe ever, so do I.
Our elected officials are actually, factually, and demonstrably impotent at doing anything. A (maximum) one-time $1200 band-aid and a shrug are all we’re getting. The plus side to all this is that the 'rona cares not if it’s targets are rich, poor, black, white, brown, smart, dumb, etc. This is the beginning of a new paradigm, and I truly hope the new “normal” is a good one.
Bring back the guillotine.
Hopefully, if, and I cannot help but all-caps stress that IF, we survive this, both mentally and physically, I’ll finally get that chance to just goddamn HUG another person again.
It’s April. 2020 has been, to put it lightly, a clusterfuck since day zed. God give me the strength to make it to 2021.