NoN/Boyd Rice

Boyd seems really grounded in this interview. He mentions the controversy of the Nazi stuff and alludes to getting a bad rap, while still avoiding addressing it directly.

Let’s keep this thread going. I’m someone unfamiliar with Boyd, NON and the man/myth/legend. I went and saw him perform a set and sit in with CC main man Wes Eibold this past Thursday.

I doubt Cold Cave would endanger their popularity with hipster types by letting him get his agenda across during their set.

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Incorrect. Boyd’s stage show, featuring projections of nazi skulls, hypnotic circles, crosses and fire drew some ire from the audience. It seemed people were clearing out because they couldn’t stand the feedback or maybe are used to irony in their visual accompaniment being sliiiightly more candy-coated.


The music? A big underwhelming meh. One rhythm sounded plagiarized from TG’s “Discipline” and the rest of the songs didn’t inspire much in my special areas. All deep pulsing mechanical rhythm undercut with some other percussive noise. I don’t know. Maybe seeing Prurient live set the bar high for me and what I expect out of the noise performance field. I’m not an expert on the genre. It all seemed slightly archaic, like his vision and music seemed so very familiar, in the sense of seeing an old hardcore band some twenty years later still banging away at their old songs. The convictions there, just fossilized.

Here he is during Cold Cave’s set. He seemed bored the whole time, rubbing his nose and apparently tweaking an occasional knob and clicking his mouse. Who knows what artistic bedfellows him and Eibold are. The songs played during this set were mostly the lighter weight bedroom goth-pop of Love Comes Close and nothing the crowd couldn’t easily sway to.

One rhythm sounded plagiarized from TG’s “Discipline”

This one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMY0beavBrg

That’s the one. Not saying “Discipline” ever had a profoundly original beat but the similarities can’t be ignored…

It’s definitely intentional. That track is a different version of a track he made for a TG tribute album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDyTS0brCBs

Oh, I just realized that I never gave a link for the interview I commented on above. This is the one. He just seems more relaxed and not trying so hard to scheme at some angle or something. I thought it was kind of refreshing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlkzf3EwXgA

Saw this on FB and had to put it here (boyd with a lady outside MJ childhood home) I feel like in all his pics going back to the REsearch pics of him outside a car accident with EMT’s looking at him like wtf? boyd’s looking at ‘you’ like “get it(the joke)”?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=617895744896872&set=a.424797017540080.100500.385367418149707&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf

That dude in the cop hat looks like Buzz McCoy.

That’s NON/Boyd Rice.
One of the things I’ve always liked about Boyd is he is such a chameleon that changes his style/image to suit whatever feel or objective he thinks the situation calls for. I’ve seen him in full Hawaiian luau garb many times, and I’ve also seen him do the Fascist/Nazi suits, leather daddy, and here . . . I’m not sure if he’s going for the gay biker look or what, but it still kind of works.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151527715697991&set=o.385367418149707&type=3&theater

So, my buddy Brad (goes by Night Grinder, does a sort of noise techno fusion thing, Mooney saw him play at the show she came to here in STL) decided he’d had enough of St. Louis and decided it was time to conquer a new town, so this last Monday he moved to Denver to set up shop in an old gymnasium. Yesterday he texts me to tell me he bought some used tools from a dude who used to hang with Al way back when he still lived there before he moves to Chicago. Today he texts me that he met his next door neighbor… Boyd Rice. No shit.

That oughta be fun.

So, my buddy Brad (goes by Night Grinder, does a sort of noise techno fusion thing, Mooney saw him play at the show she came to here in STL) decided he’d had enough of St. Louis and decided it was time to conquer a new town, so this last Monday he moved to Denver to set up shop in an old gymnasium. Yesterday he texts me to tell me he bought some used tools from a dude who used to hang with Al way back when he still lived there before he moves to Chicago. Today he texts me that he met his next door neighbor… Boyd Rice. No shit.

My Boyd Rice “connection” (other than sharing a publisher who never paid either of us) was living for a year in a Prague room that he had also inhabited during a Euro-tour there.

Yes, I know…“all that, plus $2.50, will buy you a cup of coffee.” Much more interesting than the existence of any Boyd ‘vibes’ in that building was the downstairs neighbor who thought my roomie was a witch, and kept bashing at her ceiling / our floor with a broom handle at 3 in the morning.

An amusing piece of reading on Boyd (although, from what I understand, completely libelous) is his ex-wife Lisa Carver’s account in the book “Drugs are Nice.” It got some mileage once the annoying writer Stewart Home borrowed it for one of his own character assassinations on Boyd; though Home himself has been backpedaling for years on his own intimate association with people from the so-called ‘occult fascist’ music scene. Not a comradely lot, these underground folks!

been on a Boyd Rice kick lately
finally finished Iconoclast

on the topic of racist/nazi

if i had any thought that he was either
i wouldnt even bother

if any artist i listened to was either
i would stop listening
now…

Well, this was quite a surprise.
NON/Boyd Rice . . . . used in a Turbotax commercial. “CLEANLINESS AND ORDER”.
I filmed it with my phone just in case I couldn’t find it on YouTube because it was so crazy.
One of my favorite NON songs too.

Eh, Boyd Rice was a professional troll before we had a word for it.
He just thinks it’s funny to piss people off and/or confound their expectations.

I fucking LOVE that about him.
I’ve not really kept up with him much over the last 25 years, but I hope he’s still poking bears and giving zero fucks.

I met him at a Marc Almond performance last year. I was dressed like a devil and we talked about Marc’s initiation and a bit about Anton.
He reminds me of the SF that I grew up in. Wether that be a good or bad thing…

If anyone has the three disc Iconoclast dvd and could upload it, I’d appreciate seeing it. There’s a copy on discogs for $114, but I don’t want to pay THAT much.