[reply]Pretty sure “The Space in Between” was the one they had the video for. The one where they’re burning in a hotel room. “A Drowning” is definitely one of the better tracks off of their first EP though, I think.
Hoping I get to see them this tour. I’ve seen them enough times now though that I won’t be too bummed if I don’t.
You’re absolutely right. I saw them in 1994, they were amazing, 2005, they were shite, and the other day, amazing again. Trent is officially back in my good books.[/reply]
Lucky bastard to have seen them in 94.
Strange. When I saw them the second time in 2005 for the full blown tour it was one of the best shows I’ve ever seen. I’d even rate it higher than the LITS show. The band was on fire and when the screen came down and they started playing “Right Where it Belongs”… that was some heavy shit.
Also, Autolux being one of my favorite bands and opening was great to see. Queens of the Stone Age playing right before NIN was nice too. Shit, that was a fun night.
It has leaked finally and has been confirmed. It’s taking what seems like an eternity to download though. So, I haven’t heard it yet and last I checked it’s not up on any of the major torrent sites (yet).
I’m missing out on it. I should’ve checked before I left home for work. By the time I get home, I’m sure it’ll be on the torrent sites. If not, I may have a good idea where to look. Now i debate on whether or not to go to the gym…
Probably some spoilers (can an album have spoilers?):
It’s fucking, goddamn, great and just might be his best since The Fragile when I get through it all (at “In Two” track 12), give it a few more listens, have the actual product with artwork/book and liner notes in my hands, and depending on how well it holds up against time.
It is without a doubt so much better than The Slip. It’s far less repetitive than Year Zero but so far has managed to sound concise and every song has it’s place. It’s pretty unique sounding within the NIN catalog too. However, I think people who like NIN’s older stuff will still find something on here to enjoy.
I appreciate the maturity of it too. I’m glad he’s not singing about being completely fucking miserable anymore - because he’s clearly not - and has found a way to write stuff that is sincere, not exactly happy, and still sounds vital. The production is also superb and the track take some cool twists and turns.
“All Time Low” is banging. It would be a shame if that song wasn’t a single. And “Find My Way” sounds sooo much better lossless like this. So much subtle sounds that somehow add so much. “In Two” is pretty intense. The opener is only 50+ seconds but is pretty creepy. There really isn’t a bad song so far, in my opinion. “Everything” might be hard to swallow but it fits perfectly where it’s placed within the album. I think people who hated it will see that it’s not so much a “happy” song with what comes before and after it. It’s more intentionally naive sounding - to me at least.
/rambling
EDIT: Finished it and the weakest track is probably “While I’m Still Here”, for me at least. The last track “Black Noise” picks up right where “While I’m Still Here” left off and then builds into some crazy electrical storm or monstrous machinery sound the eats up the track, gets louder and louder and just drops. Awesome ending. Way better than even I expected.
Dunno if it was already posted and can’t be bothered checking, but here’s the Lollapalooza show. It seems slightly different from the one i saw, we got Burn, which isn’t on this one apparently;
0:00 - Copy of A
6:12 - Sanctified
11:00 - Came Back Haunted
16:15 - 1,000,000
20:22 - March of the Pigs
24:40 - Piggy
29:30 - The Frail
31:37 - The Wretched
37:07 - Terrible Lie
42:09 - Closer
46:42 - Gave Up
51:39 - Help Me I Am In Hell
53:00 - Me, I’m Not
57:48 - Find My Way
1:03:13 - What If We Could?
1:07:04 - The Way Out Is Through
1:10:47 - Wish
1:14:31 - Survivalism
1:19:01 - Only
1:23:35 - The Hand That Feeds
1:27:11 - Head Like A Hole
1:32:50 - Hurt
Probably some spoilers (can an album have spoilers?):
It’s fucking, goddamn, great and just might be his best since The Fragile when I get through it all (at “In Two” track 12), give it a few more listens…
I’m interested. You sound enthusiastic about it - that’s good news. Care to give us a track by track rundown? No probs if you don’t feel like it.
Someone(s) have already uploaded to youtube. I skipped around a bit. I found a track or two I liked. The Fragile it is not. I won’t be buying. Your mileage may vary.
Not sure yet after skipping around. Different for sure.
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Someone(s) have already uploaded to youtube. I skipped around a bit. I found a track or two I liked. The Fragile it is not. I won’t be buying. Your mileage may vary.
Not sure yet after skipping around. Different for sure.[/reply]
Neither am I. It has a few moments though. Maybe it’s a grower. A lot of people are ecstatic about it. Maybe that kinda raised my expections a little too high. It’ll definitely get a few more listens. Everything is very out of place imo.
it sounds more like HDTA album with trent vocals
why this album has tds font and artwork i don’t know
nothing in common with tds or fragile or anything
closest thing to this is year zero/slip but less guitars
3/4 of the way through, it’s not bad, but it’s all pretty samey. I don’t think it particularly sounds like any other NIN release, but there’s not a great deal of variety on it. Not a lot of guitars at all, so not really my thing if i’m being honest. I don’t, at this point, think i’ll ever listen to it again. It’s not interesting enough to me, and even if it had been released when i absolutely loved NIN, i would rate it pretty low in their catalogue.
I’ll still check them out live if they ever come to my town again, but this isn’t anywhere near as good as anything up to and including With Teeth. It belongs firmly in the latter era of NIN, i.e. the boring part.
Here’s an upload on youtube if anyone’s interested.
Just kidding, I actually kinda dig the new tunes. More like what I have been listening to lately than any other NIN. Although his improved cheery attitude hasn’t improved his lyrics any. If I wanted to hear someone praying to god I would go buy a DC Talk record. Maybe Jars Of Clay. Sixth grade rhyme schemes and nursery rhymes. Whatever pays the bills I guess.
Have we been listening to the same album? It’s not a religious album. I wouldn’t even call it a positive one. More subdued and mature, yeah. I see it this way: he could go the korn route and write about his “pain and sorrow” that’s not really there anymore, or he can make the album he really wanted to make. I’ll go with the latter.
The album is growing on me. It’s a pretty chilled out album, and it’s starting to come together for me.
i dunno. it’s boring…
it has no business to even have the same font as the downward spiral. and the ‘intro’ and especially ‘outro’ tracks are like really reduntant (they can be a part of preceeding or the following song easily), what the fuck is up with that.
and generally its just some computer-made beat, and maybe 1-2 bars of a bassline that is looped thru the whole song, etc. same old shit, nothing new, just boring sound and feel overall. and not that huge of a departure from “year zero” sound.
i dunno, feels like HDTA album but with reznor vocals or something.
I think this sounds nothing like “Year Zero” and the font that the album art uses, along with Gary Talpas’ artwork, isn’t and wasn’t ever intended to make anyone thing this would sound like TDS.
I like it the more I listen to it. I don’t think it sounds redundant at all. “Year Zero”, I could understand why people would feel that that album was redundant but this has a lot of variety. “Copy of A”, “Find My Way”, “All Time Low”, “Everything”, “Various Methods of Escape”, “I Would for You”, “In Two”, (holy shit, I nearly listed every song) none of those sound the same really and some of them sound like the polar opposite of the other. And no offense, but if the intro and outro on a NIN album are throwing you off I don’t know if you were able to sit through “The Fragile” without becoming incredibly confused and disoriented.
I guess I’d rather have an honest and slightly mellower album than a bullshit “heavy” album made just for the sake of being heavy for all the people who decided what NIN is supposed to sound like (despite every album being different - at times drastically different).
To each his own though. It’s not for everybody and certainly shouldn’t be.
I guess I’d rather have an honest and slightly mellower album than a bullshit “heavy” album made just for the sake of being heavy for all the people who decided what NIN is supposed to sound like (despite every album being different - at times drastically different).
I read a recent interview with TR where he said a lot of the songs on HM had heavy guitars, and it just didn’t sound right. Having heard the album, I can honestly say he made the right call.
I like it. It’s good industrial pop. TR matured very well, and I’m extremely proud to call him my second favorite musician.
And no offense, but if the intro and outro on a NIN album are throwing you off I don’t know if you were able to sit through “The Fragile” without becoming incredibly confused and disoriented.
they dont, but thing is that they are like one minute each, why make them into separate tracks. sure, there was pinion on broken, but come on, that was like what, 20 years ago. as for fragile, when it was released in 1999, i was digging it immensely. now, i’d prefer it to be single album. but the thing is, whenever i think about how to trim it, i can never deceide which tracks to throw out. weird.
I guess I’d rather have an honest and slightly (skip) It’s not for everybody and certainly shouldn’t be.
true. but even though it has no guitars, it feels like year zero - all samples and electronics, i wonder if reznor/atticus just used their macbooks or whatever to make it XD but certain nin ‘mannerisms’ are still very present. certain tracks feel like they drag on too long. and the way most of the beat sound, remind me of two early autechre albums from 93-94.
really hope they’ll play in russia one or two shows though. would love to see them again.
There’s more guitar than you think. Not much guitar, but the guitar that is there is heavily processed to the point that it sounds nothing like a guitar. Something he did a lot of on the htda ep. Just check the making of videos for htda to see what I’m talking about.
Not sure if I’d say this is his best work since The Fragile. I like it, but I’m not sure if I could agree with that statement.