New NIN in 2010

Reznor is not an emo pussy. Emos tend to really only hate themselves inwardly. Most of those faggots like being emo just for the fuck of it anyway.

As for Reznor his anger is fueled by betrayel, addiction etc., directed outwardly at the world not at himself, thus he’s not an emo!

Dude…that is the most hardcore emo post ever on this board.

Alec Empire was rocking the emo industrial cut way before trent

Just when you thought Trent was the biggest emo on the block…Alec Empire hits the scene!

But with emos, people just thing they are a bunch of depressed fags.

Yes…it is a dark dark world they live in.

Looks like Bruce Springsteen

True…looks like Springsteen is his bad-ass prime.

I am glad that goths didn’t get as much crap back in the day. People thought that they were goofy but mostly they thought they were weird and/or satanic. That made it kind of fun. But with emos, people just thing they are a bunch of depressed fags.

Also, even though goths were (and are) an easy target, there’s a little bit of dangerous edge there. The music grew out of punk and went hand in hand with industrial, so it was a bit tougher. And that goth just might have a shotgun in his black trenchcoat. What’ the emo kid gonna do? Cry at you?

What is emo anyway?? Is it pop punk??? (I’m 36 years old and have no clue)

Are Good Charlotte emo??? Is Linkin Park emo?

I saw their video on tv once - it just sounded like Matchbox 20…except that everybody in the group was tattooed from head to foot.

So what is it?

Would a Smiths fans have been called ‘emo’ back in 1985 if that term had of existed then?

I hope not. The Smiths pretty much ruled the '80s.

They also had talent.

Well one of the really lame things are emo kids going back and retroactively claiming music groups as emo. So I am sure somewhere The Cure and the Smiths have been heralded as proto-emo. I am also sure some of them would claim Glenn Danzig as an honorary emo.

Emo (or Elmo-punk) in the '90s was a term my friends and I used to describe these kids who played a kind of Fugazi/math-rock style of music. It wasn’t that bad, it just wasn’t my thing. Most of these guys looked like Beck oddly enough.

Nowadays emo looks like some sort of Goth-Lite /Hot Topic hybrid.

Would a Smiths fans have been called ‘emo’ back in 1985 if that term had of existed then?

No…they would’ve been called gay.

Yeah, emo’s kind of a pop-rock thing with whiny vocals. Originally it did describe bands like Fugazi, but the definition has shifted a great deal in the last decade or so.

Sometimes when I’m playing Rock Band 2 it makes me play a Jimmy Eat World song. That’s always a lame feeling.

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I’m a Smith’s fan and if someone called me gay I would kick there ass and then ask them how it feels to get their ass kicked by a Smith’s fan.

I won’t call you gay but dude Morrissey’s stuff is gay!

Morrisey is as gay as christmas. The Smiths had some good numbers regardless but I’ve always found Marr to be the reason for that. I mean listen to that guitar intro to ‘This Charming Man’, it is sublime.

It’s kinda funny. I fall into that generation where if it wasn’t for NIN, I wouldn’t have heard of bands like Ministry or Skinny Puppy, Front 242, which lead to my interest in Download, DVoA, Throbbing Gristle, blah blah blah.

Reznor puts out some good music, but I guess you could say I’ve sort of graduated from Reznor’s music and moved on to different things. What got me into NIN as a teen was that I’ve never heard a band combine hard rock with electronics and weird noises. That was my first exposure to anything remotely industrial.

I sometimes feel a bit embarrassed when I listen to Trent’s work, these days. Yes, lyrically, he was/is emo before emo came out. Every now and then I’ll go through the lyrics and chuckle. You know when you find old pictures of yourself from 10 years back and cringe? That’s how I feel when I read them now. But when I was 15, I thought Trent was a lyrical genius.

Personally, my favorite portion of Reznor’s career was from 1992-1996. I frequently play the Quake soundtrack and have always admired the Fixed EP. It would be nice to see Trent do more ambient projects. The Ghosts album was good, but a little random when it comes to the music. I like the weird tracks like the third track on the first disc, or the first track of the second. That’s the NIN I will always love.

The first time I remember hearing Emo was in relation to the Deftones… I was like wtf is Emo… now I don’t think they would even be considered Emo… My Chemical Romance and terrible shite like that…

Peligro, walk through Melbourne CBD, every dude with dyed black hair sporting a cut like the alec empire/trent pics on the last page and wearing clothes so tight they have to walk funny…there’s your “emo’s”.
Also try Flinders St station steps.

that picture of hitler cracked me up. and yes i’ve heard the ‘mine is no disgrace’ track, have you seen the documentary?
p.s. the smiths rule. i did’nt like them till’ i got my cold black heart broken then i understood sniff sniff

First time I heard emo was referred to weezer. Then it like morphed and jumped ship to mallgoth. hot topic i think definetly had a hand in that transformation.

All the gay people I’ve ever met were into house/dance music…or musicals. I don’t think any of them had even heard of the Smiths.

Not that I care.

Morrissey is gay - but the songs were post punk/indie pop rock and spoke of alienation, self loathing, day to day boredom, awkward sex, violence and overt ‘Britishness’ - themes which are universal and not subject to affecting only one demographic. You can be blatantly straight and still associate with all of those things.

I’ve never thought of their music as ‘gay’. I would say Depeche Mode or Soft Cell would attract more of a gay following. Gays love to dance and take E.

That’s not really a Smiths thing - they’re too busy being mopey. Like me. I love The Smiths.

p.s. the smiths rule. i did’nt like them till’ i got my cold black heart broken then i understood sniff sniff

Only an emo would say something like that.