I am glad that goths didn’t get as much crap back in the day. People thought that they were goofy but mostly they thought they were weird and/or satanic. That made it kind of fun. But with emos, people just thing they are a bunch of depressed fags.
Also, even though goths were (and are) an easy target, there’s a little bit of dangerous edge there. The music grew out of punk and went hand in hand with industrial, so it was a bit tougher. And that goth just might have a shotgun in his black trenchcoat. What’ the emo kid gonna do? Cry at you?
Well one of the really lame things are emo kids going back and retroactively claiming music groups as emo. So I am sure somewhere The Cure and the Smiths have been heralded as proto-emo. I am also sure some of them would claim Glenn Danzig as an honorary emo.
Emo (or Elmo-punk) in the '90s was a term my friends and I used to describe these kids who played a kind of Fugazi/math-rock style of music. It wasn’t that bad, it just wasn’t my thing. Most of these guys looked like Beck oddly enough.
Nowadays emo looks like some sort of Goth-Lite /Hot Topic hybrid.
Yeah, emo’s kind of a pop-rock thing with whiny vocals. Originally it did describe bands like Fugazi, but the definition has shifted a great deal in the last decade or so.
Sometimes when I’m playing Rock Band 2 it makes me play a Jimmy Eat World song. That’s always a lame feeling.
Morrisey is as gay as christmas. The Smiths had some good numbers regardless but I’ve always found Marr to be the reason for that. I mean listen to that guitar intro to ‘This Charming Man’, it is sublime.
It’s kinda funny. I fall into that generation where if it wasn’t for NIN, I wouldn’t have heard of bands like Ministry or Skinny Puppy, Front 242, which lead to my interest in Download, DVoA, Throbbing Gristle, blah blah blah.
Reznor puts out some good music, but I guess you could say I’ve sort of graduated from Reznor’s music and moved on to different things. What got me into NIN as a teen was that I’ve never heard a band combine hard rock with electronics and weird noises. That was my first exposure to anything remotely industrial.
I sometimes feel a bit embarrassed when I listen to Trent’s work, these days. Yes, lyrically, he was/is emo before emo came out. Every now and then I’ll go through the lyrics and chuckle. You know when you find old pictures of yourself from 10 years back and cringe? That’s how I feel when I read them now. But when I was 15, I thought Trent was a lyrical genius.
Personally, my favorite portion of Reznor’s career was from 1992-1996. I frequently play the Quake soundtrack and have always admired the Fixed EP. It would be nice to see Trent do more ambient projects. The Ghosts album was good, but a little random when it comes to the music. I like the weird tracks like the third track on the first disc, or the first track of the second. That’s the NIN I will always love.
The first time I remember hearing Emo was in relation to the Deftones… I was like wtf is Emo… now I don’t think they would even be considered Emo… My Chemical Romance and terrible shite like that…
Peligro, walk through Melbourne CBD, every dude with dyed black hair sporting a cut like the alec empire/trent pics on the last page and wearing clothes so tight they have to walk funny…there’s your “emo’s”.
Also try Flinders St station steps.
that picture of hitler cracked me up. and yes i’ve heard the ‘mine is no disgrace’ track, have you seen the documentary?
p.s. the smiths rule. i did’nt like them till’ i got my cold black heart broken then i understood sniff sniff
First time I heard emo was referred to weezer. Then it like morphed and jumped ship to mallgoth. hot topic i think definetly had a hand in that transformation.
All the gay people I’ve ever met were into house/dance music…or musicals. I don’t think any of them had even heard of the Smiths.
Not that I care.
Morrissey is gay - but the songs were post punk/indie pop rock and spoke of alienation, self loathing, day to day boredom, awkward sex, violence and overt ‘Britishness’ - themes which are universal and not subject to affecting only one demographic. You can be blatantly straight and still associate with all of those things.
I’ve never thought of their music as ‘gay’. I would say Depeche Mode or Soft Cell would attract more of a gay following. Gays love to dance and take E.
That’s not really a Smiths thing - they’re too busy being mopey. Like me. I love The Smiths.