Good point.
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KMFDM on the Symbols tour in 1997 with Rammstein opening is still one of my top 10 shows ever. Both bands were amazing.
I think KMFDM had Ogre, En Esch, Raymond Watts, Skold and Bill Reiflin onthat tour.
Rammstein singer completely burst into flames for a song and later beat himself over the head with his mic until there was blood was all over him. Later the keyboardist inflated a river raft to go crowd surfing.
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Tour has been rescheduled AGAIN to March/April 2022. Melvins and Corrosion of Conformity are the new openers.
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Save your moneyā¦
Fuck this tour. How can I get my money back?
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Instead of celebrating the 30 year anniversary of Mind, they might consider celebrating the 40 year anniversary of With Sympathyā¦the way this is going.
The timing is actually pretty funny. I bought a ticket for a Danzig show that will be on 10/30 (God willing) so I canceled my Anaheim hotel already and this week I was going to give away my Ministry ticket to anyone that wanted it. I wasnāt even slightly surprised, though, that it got canceled before that happened. Iād been saying for a couple months that I thought Jourgensen was going to pull the plug on the tour (a bunch of things he was saying really forecasted it, in my opinion).
Iām too lazy to figure out how to get a refund, so Iāll just see what April has in store. Iām not too happy about getting a Wednesday show now instead of a Friday, though. Really dampers my party plans, hahaha.
I like these opening bands betterā¦but christ,will it even happen in March? These postponementās are tediousā¦
Seriously, who cares? Jourgensen does nothing but lipsync 3/4 of the set anyway. Helmet>Melvins.
I careā¦I have fun at the showsā¦if you donāt care good for youā¦doesnāt matter to meā¦I like Melvins way more than Helmet and I like COC better than bothā¦what is it with certain members of the forum who seem to be upset that other people listen to current Ministry and go to the showsā¦why the fuck do you care what other people get enjoyment from lolā¦Jesus christ
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Enjoy yourself. You seem to be bothered that I donāt care for some reason.
COC is waay better than Melvins too. Iād rather see both Melvins and COC than āMinistryā at this point. I believe Pepper Keenan is back in the COC. I like the PK version of COC best. If Jourgensen would actually perform for the whole show, Iād probably go. No way in hell Iām going to see him lipsync his way through 60 of 75 minutes.
Everyone on FB and here seem to be quite upset with the last move. 3rd move and Iām actually happy it got pushed. Al is a super paranoid dude and this latest move makes sense when It comes to Al.
As far as FLA being notifiedā¦oh well. I donāt know them. When KMFDM fell off, I was disappointed.
This new lineup isnāt industrial (Al hasnāt been Industrial in forever) and a bit strange but I havenāt seen both so that works for me. Not a Melvinās fan but Iām interested in seeing them live. COC, Iām a fan of mostly their earlier stuff and look forward to them.
Not bothered at allā¦you responded to my post with āseriously,who cares?āā¦I said I careā¦I care about the showā¦I was answering your questionā¦in terms of you caring or not I couldnāt give a flying turdā¦
COC has had Pepper back for some time now and have been playing some of their best shows in yearsā¦
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C.O.C sucks ass.
And fuck Al for postponing this again and for the way they treated FLA and Helmet.
Iām giving my ticket away. Fuck Ministry. Iām done with them.
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This place is fucking funny sometimesā¦
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They screwed over Helmet, too? I heard about the fracas with FLA but didnāt know the same āfuck you, the showās overā attitude was extended to Helmet. Fucking Al.
As far as opening band replacements go, Iām ok with COC replacing FLA insofar as I donāt really like either band very much. Helmet vs. Melvins, Iām soooo torn. I have never seen either band put in less than 110%. But I guess the Melvins win, because Iāve only seen them 3 times but Iāve seen Helmet about 30.
Maybe Al and The Melvins can do a mashup of Filthpig and Night Goat.
I havenāt seen Ministry in forever, last time was probably that Ministry/RevCo tour. Guess see how trainwreck like it will be.
For me, all the juggling loses one thing that was cool to me. The venue. Weāre one of the ones getting swapped. Was going to see Ministry at First Ave. now itās a different place, which blows.
Openers, not much has changed. Out of the 5, only a couple really had me excited anyway. KMFDM, boring, FLA, so/so fun, but seen them a few times now, Helmet, saw them live years back, was okay, COC, think seen before and more excited for The Melvins most now.
Could miss it and be fine, but try to enjoy this train wreck pandemic tour.
I really really wanted to see FLA (theyāre one of the few bands Iāve consistently enjoyed through the years and I love their new album and the new Noise Unit too) and would have gone to the tour if I were in the states when it rolled through but as an old Wax Trax guy, they and KMFDM were the biggest draws for me. Ministry doing Mind would be cool, but Iāve had diminishing returns with seeing Ministry live.
Iād like to know why they pissed off FLA though. I looked a little online but couldnāt see anything. Anyone care to spill?
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I really donāt know the specifics. For all I know, it could be bullshit. Some of the comments on various FB feeds ā Ministry-related, Wax Trax-related, etc. ā indicate that FLA found out about the cancellation when everyone else did, which is, I dunno, maybe itās bullshit.
