No no, the heavy sound of LoRaH was invented by that one guy that posted here twice about how he should sue for not getting any credit and then disappeared from the board entirely.
LORAH was not super guitar heavy. The Missing, Deity, Golden Dawn, and the beginning of Destruction had guitar in them, but that’s it. 4 out of 11 songs doesn’t really qualify as guitar heavy in my opinion. The rest of it is a more abrasive version of Twitch. Except for Abortive, even though that was a Twitch b-side.
No no, the heavy sound of LoRaH was invented by that one guy that posted here twice about how he should sue for not getting any credit and then disappeared from the board entirely.
Haha! I was just thinking of that guy when I posted that.
To Eureka - I don’t know how many of the songs were kept or re-tooled for the album. In all honesty, I don’t really care for the album and don’t even currently own a copy. I only like the live versions from ICYDFLSU.
Haha! I was just thinking of that guy when I posted that. To Eureka - I don’t know how many of the songs were kept or re-tooled for the album. In all honesty, I don’t really care for the album and don’t even currently own a copy. I only like the live versions from ICYDFLSU.
What?? BLASPHEMY !!
[reply]Haha! I was just thinking of that guy when I posted that. To Eureka - I don’t know how many of the songs were kept or re-tooled for the album. In all honesty, I don’t really care for the album and don’t even currently own a copy. I only like the live versions from ICYDFLSU.
What?? BLASPHEMY !![/reply]
No, it’s true (and you are one of many that find my opinions blasphemous on this matter).
ICYDFLSU was the first Ministry I bought and I played the heck out of both the album and the video (VHS, baby!!).
The songs from LORAH and TMIATTTT are really amongst the best of Ministry’s career, but when I finally heard the studio versions they just felt cold and lifeless with respect to the live versions that I’d become well accustomed to.
No, it’s true (and you are one of many that find my opinions blasphemous on this matter).
ICYDFLSU was the first Ministry I bought and I played the heck out of both the album and the video (VHS, baby!!).
The songs from LORAH and TMIATTTT are really amongst the best of Ministry’s career, but when I finally heard the studio versions they just felt cold and lifeless with respect to the live versions that I’d become well accustomed to.
Ok. No…I get it. I had a similar experience where I’d heard the live version of “So What” from ‘Greatest Fits’ and was then really underwhelmed with the original studio version on ‘Mind’…
Spacebook.
“My favorite band is the Stones.”
“My favorite band is the Stones.”
At least he’s consistant with this one. 30 years ago when I’d soundcheck his guitar so he could walk out front and hear what it sounded like we’d typically play “Dancing Days” and he’s say things like “Can’t you guys play any Stones? Led Zepplin sucks.”
[reply]“My favorite band is the Stones.”
At least he’s consistant with this one. 30 years ago when I’d soundcheck his guitar so he could walk out front and hear what it sounded like we’d typically play “Dancing Days” and he’s say things like “Can’t you guys play any Stones? Led Zepplin sucks.”[/reply]
I’d just say play a different Zeppelin song.
[reply][reply]“My favorite band is the Stones.”
At least he’s consistant with this one. 30 years ago when I’d soundcheck his guitar so he could walk out front and hear what it sounded like we’d typically play “Dancing Days” and he’s say things like “Can’t you guys play any Stones? Led Zepplin sucks.”[/reply]
I’d just say play a different Zeppelin song.[/reply]
Sometimes we’d play ‘Moby Dick’.
[reply]“My favorite band is the Stones.”
At least he’s consistant with this one. 30 years ago when I’d soundcheck his guitar so he could walk out front and hear what it sounded like we’d typically play “Dancing Days” and he’s say things like “Can’t you guys play any Stones? Led Zepplin sucks.”[/reply]
lol
http://puregrainaudio.com/interviews/interview-with-ministry-frontman-al-jourgensen
“My iPod is basically the giant four of country; Hank Williams, Patsy Cline, Buck Owens and George Jones. I also have some ZZ Top, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and Lynard Skyward. That is basically all that I listen to.”
LORAH was not super guitar heavy. The Missing, Deity, Golden Dawn, and the beginning of Destruction had guitar in them, but that’s it. 4 out of 11 songs doesn’t really qualify as guitar heavy in my opinion. The rest of it is a more abrasive version of Twitch. Except for Abortive, even though that was a Twitch b-side.
Stigmata and flashback also featured guitar.
Ok. No…I get it. I had a similar experience where I’d heard the live version of “So What” from ‘Greatest Fits’ and was then really underwhelmed with the original studio version on ‘Mind’…
In all fairness, that’s a really good version of So What.
Late,
grmpysmrf
Most of the ‘nu-Ministry’ stuff fucking slays live.
1996-2003 ministry is better on record
1988-1992 Ministry was awesome both live and recorded.
In the current issue of Decibel . . . .
I have to defend Trent here - he didn’t “steal” anything. He’s always acknowledged Ministry as an influence and I’ve never heard him say a bad word against Al. He just happened to become (a lot) more successful with that sound.
I have to defend Trent here - he didn’t “steal” anything. He’s always acknowledged Ministry as an influence and I’ve never heard him say a bad word against Al. He just happened to become (a lot) more successful with that sound.
Yeah, I can’t ask Mike to clarify it, obviously, but I’m not sure if anyone thinks he “stole” anything. I think he used the term loosely to imply that the battles had already been won and he was able to easily climb to the top of the hill and wave the flag.
It’s not Trent’s fault that most of his fans don’t know the history of the so-called genre and kudos to him for being a LOT more effective in staying connected to the pop music scene and cultivating his fan base.
Ministry (Al specifically) has a long history of both literally and metaphorically telling everyone (industry, fans, etc.) to F*** OFF, so you can’t really have an effective grievance to share when people do just that.
I was primarily showing the quotes connecting Rigor Mortis’ and Mike’s influence on Ministry/ Al Jourgensen which has been noted long before, but I thought was cool that it was mentioned in the article.
The Decibel article, by the way, is about the making of the first Rigor Mortis album which was given “Hall of Fame” status by Decibel. The article was written a year before Mike died, so it wasn’t just post-facto ass-grabbing either.
That’s interesting about Al changing direction after hearing Rigor but yeah, there’s no point in bringing up the Ministry v NIN/Al v Trent thing again.
Call Al king idiot but I don’t doubt he genuinely loved Scaccia.
I do appreciate you posting that - I’d never heard the Rigor Mortis story before.
Just being a Trent fanboy. Not that he needs my help or anything.