Massacre In Arizona

So it turns out this guy was some sort of Mein Kampf reading Nazi and this politician was Jewish??

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/congresswoman-fights-for-life-after-us-shooting/story-e6frf7lf-1225984712088

The plot thickens. I assumed it was because he was some staunch Republican and she was a liberal and enemy of this so called Tea Party.

That’s interesting.

What’s the gist of this thing? Obviously the Americans aren’t going to change the constitution and amend their gun laws after just 'another high profile shooting? That would be crazy, right? I mean ‘the right to bear arms’ and all? We can’t take away your right to bear arms now can we? That would be unconstitutional. Shouldn’t I have the right to purchase a semi automatic sub machine gun or glock 9mm pistol if I so choose?

Oh whatever. What a boring debate anyway. Have fun with yr silly gun laws and look forward to plenty more of these things happening in the future.

I think it will take a president with real guts to do something about this right to arm oneself. It’s a pretty pathetic ‘right’. Obama obviously isn’t that man.

Gun control is an interesting problem/issue to say the least. We’ve always had guns and I’m pretty sure we always will.

The most vocal speakers on the topic are all-or-nothing folk. The NRA and other gun rights advocates basically point back to the second amendment (“the right to bear arms”) as meaning that citizens should be allowed to own and carry whatever instrument of death they wish.

But, seriously, in 1776 or whevener the constitution was originally written we had flintlock rifles, muskets, and so forth. I really don’t think Thomas Jefferson was envisioning fully-automatic assault weapons that fire armor piercing bullets at 1000 rounds a minute or bazookas designed to take down jumbo jets from 2 miles away.

I don’t own any guns, but I’m okay with people’s “right” to own a weapon or two, given that they have a clean record, no history of psychopathic illness, etc. A gun is a dangerous item that is designed to KILL PEOPLE. I have no problem with putting major restrictions on the ownership and usage of such an instrument. There’s no good reason someone needs a bunkerload of weapons, and there’s no good objection in my opinion to waiting periods, registration requirements, and a bunch of other precautions and security measures.

Trust a right wing Nazi to bring an automatic firearm to a political discussion.

Give this guy the needle.

When I lived in the states I had a neighbour who was a gun freak. Same old argument - it’s in the constitution and I have the right to protect my family and blah blah blah. I’m pretty sure the guy used to beat his wife too. I’ll bet that’s not in the constitution.

Deep down I think it was just racist fear - fear of hispanics and blacks.

In general, the people most passionate about owning guns are the last people in the world that you would want to own one . . . let alone 500 of them.

When I lived in the states I had a neighbour who was a gun freak. Same old argument - it’s in the constitution and I have the right to protect my family and blah blah blah. I’m pretty sure the guy used to beat his wife too. I’ll bet that’s not in the constitution.

Deep down I think it was just racist fear - fear of hispanics and blacks.

I’m pretty sure it is (the wife beating that is).

I wouldn’t allow half of those right wing hicks a license to own a puppy let alone a firearm.

Anyway, I hear that doctors are now saying that this politician will live - which is a good thing.

What was her agenda? Why did this guy target her specifically? Apart from just being a lunatic, that is.

Didn’t Sarah ‘Dinosaurs Lived Alongside People In Biblical Times. No Really They Did…Evolution Is Just A Con’ Palin post a list of ‘targets’ on her website? Complete with crosshairs and all? And this shot politician was one of the ‘targets’??

If that’s true, I don’t care what political party she is from, Palin should be fucking horsewhipped for that.

Of course…we all know nothing will happen to her.

Funny as it may seem, I was completely obsessed with guns at one stage and pretty much still am. Why? Well, who the hell hasn’t played a shoot em up at one point in their life?

Not so much that I wanna go out shooting Bambi, or Sarah Palin… but there is something to be said for the rush associated with hearing it discharge and seeing it smash into something.

Still, I could never bring myself to go hunting, let alone shoot in another living thing’s direction, and with all this considered, I reckon virtually outlawing guns in Australia was one of the best things that ever happened. Besides, I’d never get a gun license anyway, because I’ve got a temper like there’s no tomorrow and I think that’s half the problem. You’ve got a deadly weapon, combined with temptation, with any extreme emotion, at any given instant… bad shit’s bound to happen.

I think guns are awesome. I go shooting with a group of guys every now and then (skeet and trap shooting, mostly 12 gauge). And I’ve shot handguns and assault rifles as well. Yes, the rush is incredible. It’s a total guy thing. Playing with something so deadly and destructive. Whether I’m pumping lead into an orange clay “pigeon” or blasting the crap out of an old TV or something it is just great fun.

But the psychotic and or idiotic minority (yes, it is a very small portion of the total gun-owning population) make for some really tragic accidents and incidents. Whether it be some schmuck that amasses these guns for the strict intent of mowing down a bunch of innocents or whether it’s just some goon who is too stupid to properly lock up his gun and leaves it for his children (trust me, if you have a gun in the house, they WILL find it) to accidentally shoot themselves with these jerks just ruin it for everyone.

I’m totally fine with losing the privilege of killing a can or two if we can pass some regulations or legislations that would reduce these other more tragic incidents.

This is what the constitution meant

Joking aside, everyone should have the right to bear arms. In situations like this it would be wise to beef up security up the ass. Metal detectors would work wonders… basically it should resemble an airport screening station. This meet n greet thing was held at a supermarket for christ’s sake!

Just very thankful to live in a country with somewhat sane gun laws when I see this kind of shit.

yeah Palin had cross hairs on her electoral map with her in mind.

The guy is some 22 year old lunatic.
I agree with gunnar in that you want a flintlock musket help yourself. (I’ve said that for years)

one thing these guns enthusiasts forget about in the second amendment is that the point of the 2nd amendment was for a well regulated militia. We have a well regulated Militia, it’s called the armed forces, Not only that it’s written that the point of the militia id to have soldier training, I doubt very many of these retards have had any kind of weapons training.

Fucking tragedy.
so that’s like 3-4 in the past past year and a half that have went fucking ape crazy. one crashed his plane into the Texas fed building, one got busted before he could actually kill someone with shotguns grenades and shit in his truck and a list of “people to kill” which was pretty much Glenn Beck’s hate list. that planned parent hood Doctor was killed at Bill O’rielly’s urging…

Nothing ever happens based on this shit. We’re about to go into Civil war, I’m afraid. had to take my Obama sticker off my truck cause people kept throwing shit at my truck on the free way… Spitting as they went buy throwing cigarettes, soda cans etc…
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grmpysmrf

being british i think the US public would be better off if firearms were banned. it’s not going to stop the absolute nutters from getting them and using them, after all we still have a gun problem here, but nothing on the scale of the US, but it will stop the majority of gun crime. how could it not?

mind you, i think chris rock had a point…

"You don’t need no gun control. You know what you need? We need some bullet control. Man, we need to control the bullets, that’s right. I think all bullets should cost $5000. $5000 for a bullet. You know why? 'Cause if a bullet costs $5000, there’d be no more innocent bystanders. … Every time someone gets shot, people will be like, “Damn, he must have did something. He put $50,000 worth of bullets in his ass!” Niggas will say “I would blow your fucking head off–if I could afford it! I’m gonna get me another job, I’m gonna start saving some money, and then you’re dead man!. You better hope I can’t get no bullets on layaway!”

HAHAHAHAHA!!! I hadn’t heard that Rock bit. That’s awesome!

yeah Palin had cross hairs on her electoral map with her in mind.

The guy is some 22 year old lunatic.
I agree with gunnar in that you want a flintlock musket help yourself. (I’ve said that for years)

one thing these guns enthusiasts forget about in the second amendment is that the point of the 2nd amendment was for a well regulated militia. We have a well regulated Militia, it’s called the armed forces, Not only that it’s written that the point of the militia id to have soldier training, I doubt very many of these retards have had any kind of weapons training.

Fucking tragedy.
so that’s like 3-4 in the past past year and a half that have went fucking ape crazy. one crashed his plane into the Texas fed building, one got busted before he could actually kill someone with shotguns grenades and shit in his truck and a list of “people to kill” which was pretty much Glenn Beck’s hate list. that planned parent hood Doctor was killed at Bill O’rielly’s urging…

Nothing ever happens based on this shit. We’re about to go into Civil war, I’m afraid. had to take my Obama sticker off my truck cause people kept throwing shit at my truck on the free way… Spitting as they went buy throwing cigarettes, soda cans etc…
Late,
grmpysmrf

seriously? where the hell do you live? the south? that’s pretty fucked up.

It’s not guns. Violent crime in the US is actually down about 50% in the last 80 years…and because of a spike in the 70’s and 80’s is down almost 70% since 1993.

It’s difficult to apply the same reasons, and therefore rights, to gun ownership to over 300M citizens. Should there be restrictions? Absolutely, but the 2nd Amendment isn’t going anywhere.

I’m glad I can own a gun to protect me from people who are gun-nuts.

This is what the constitution meant

Joking aside, everyone should have the right to bear arms. In situations like this it would be wise to beef up security up the ass. Metal detectors would work wonders… basically it should resemble an airport screening station. This meet n greet thing was held at a supermarket for christ’s sake!

LOL

so we should spend thousands/millions of dollars on screenings and metal detectors so some gun nuts could get their rush?

i’m pretty divided on this issue…the way i see it, the “right to bear arms” (hilarious picture btw) was meant to protect oneself against government tyranny/oppression…which sounds good to me, but it has NO place in normal everyday life.

seriously? where the hell do you live? the south? that’s pretty fucked up.

Southern California! which this is supposed to be the most liberal of States. I said damn if that’s the case cause they sure as shit have found Jesus and are major conservative here in the High desert!
Late,
grmpysmrf

I personally won’t own a gun but if some other person wants one I’m not going to stand in their way. I wouldn’t even vote to abolish the 2nd amendment. Although I would vote for tougher screening laws…

Lard I also would prefer not to live in a Police state where you have to be patted down airport style to go to the grocery store. I just know what is to be done, banning guns is probably too drastic… I find it funny (sad funny) that this happened in Arizona considering Arizona officials were yammering on and on about how Safe Arizona is because they have the “you can wear your side arm in public Law” or whatever the hell it was.
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grmpysmrf

If I lived in Arizona I would wear a gun everywhere I went. I would have multiple guns to accessorize my best outfits. My wife would leave me, but at least I’d have my guns.