Jimmy Fallon actually does a really pretty good Morisson:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBRYsAfchkY
Haven’t heard the Doors with Ian. Haven’t heard Queen with Paul Rodgers yet either- what do you guys think of that one?
I’ve never heard the Paul Rodgers’ Queen, but that’s a good example too. I’ll have to check that out.
It’s always going to be divisive when a band known largely for a particular iconic and charismatic lead singer continues on with a replacement.
AC/DC did just fine…
AC/DC did just fine…
Indeed. I was just pondering that same thing.
I think are two key differences in that example.
As I was thinking about a lot of these bands like Queen and The Doors, I think maybe one of the reasons people hate these acts is that they pop up 20 years AFTER the band had supposedly hung it up. They’re digging up the corpse of the band and the corpse of the singer and treating it in a flippant manner with the substitutes.
Again, it’s not something that I get butthurt about, but I guess I can empathize with them.
[reply]This is AMAZING. It’s pretty cute how Ian apparently went out of his way too look just like Jim. [laugh]
I saw a Cult concert on some random channel circa this year and I an didn’t have too much in the way of hair. Had a very Al Jourgensen-type bandana instead. [:P]
HAHAHA! It’s funny you mention his hair. That was one thing that pissed me off about him circa 1995.
In the 80’s I thought Ian was so damn hot. His stage charisma was just so damn sexy and the combination of flashy moves and the longest, shiniest, most amazing jet black hair, was just magic.
Then he started some band in the mid-90’s called Romantic Lovers or something and CUT HIS HAIR. I was so pissed.[/reply]
Hahaha nice…the band was called Holy Barbarians…I went to see them in a little club in Gainesville,Fl. and I walked by him twice before the show started and barely recognized him…he had short hair and was about 30 lbs overweight and was wearing a Florida Gators tank top…he had definitely had a few drinks and when I spoke with him he just mumbled some shit…haha…show was good though…
I’ve probably seen the cult 15 times over the years and you never quite know what you are gonna get…largely depends upon how well Ian and Billy are getting on at that particular moment…saw them a couple of months ago and the old fire was burning…
Re-reading my post last night, I think I’m not explaining myself clearly. I think what really annoys me is that if a band reunites, and they find a singer who tries to emulate the old singer in nearly every way, it’s tacky.
Queen had the decency to not just call it Queen, plus Rodgers never tried to ape Mercury…not that he could but…
What the Doors did was get a guy who, for wayyyyy too many years, was pretty much doing a near carbon-copy of Jim Morrison, and basically touted a Doors reunion with just that. I am not a fan of The Cult though I saw Ian a lot on music shows in the day…his persona SCREAMS desperation at wanting to be Jim Morrison. I actually spoke to my cousin about this a few months ago and she told me that it was no secret to her how much he wanted to be a Jim clone.
If Ray would’ve did the Doors with Iggy Pop or something, or (I prefer) as a whole new band, it would’ve been interesting as hell I think.
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Yeah, thanks. I was thinking it was something along those lines.
I’m not up for writing a bunch about it, but can we all just at least have a laugh at the mid-90’s Judas Priest? Hiring as their singer a Halford wannabe from a Judas Priest tribute band. I must say it’s logical, but it still seems douchey.
Journey are/were the biggest offenders. Every single singer they’ve used live tries to emulate Steve Perry. Not one original thought going on there.
His chin is gone
Hahahaha…Manson is a chinless wonder.
Sometimes a new singer’s unique style, though, will actually make the previous material unlistenable. I love DIO, and I love OZZY . . . . .
But when Dio tried to sing the Ozzy Sabbath songs they were just horrendous. It’s impossible, it seems, to sing a song that is so iconic with one voice in a different and equally iconic voice . . . . it seems like a bad Saturday Night Live sketch or something.
The only singer I truly liked that could deliver on all phases of Sabbath was TONY MARTIN. He really wasn’t iconic at all. He was just a good singer and didn’t try to be what he wasn’t or make sure he pissed all over something to “make it HIS”.
Is it too late to mention Van Halen? I saw them with Sammy Hagar back in '95 or '96. Sure when Sammy came to the band they changed their sound but it always bothered me when he would sing DLR songs. He didn’t exactly try to copy DLR but he just didn’t sound right singing those songs. And then there’s the Gary Sharone experiment…
[reply]AC/DC did just fine…
Indeed. I was just pondering that same thing.
I think are two key differences in that example.
As I was thinking about a lot of these bands like Queen and The Doors, I think maybe one of the reasons people hate these acts is that they pop up 20 years AFTER the band had supposedly hung it up. They’re digging up the corpse of the band and the corpse of the singer and treating it in a flippant manner with the substitutes.
Again, it’s not something that I get butthurt about, but I guess I can empathize with them.[/reply]
That’s the only example that I can think of where the band did that, as well . I think it worked also because Bryan and Bon sound similar. both voices certainly go with the music very well.
Late,
grmpysmrf
[reply][reply]AC/DC did just fine…
Indeed. I was just pondering that same thing.
I think are two key differences in that example.
As I was thinking about a lot of these bands like Queen and The Doors, I think maybe one of the reasons people hate these acts is that they pop up 20 years AFTER the band had supposedly hung it up. They’re digging up the corpse of the band and the corpse of the singer and treating it in a flippant manner with the substitutes.
Again, it’s not something that I get butthurt about, but I guess I can empathize with them.[/reply]
That’s the only example that I can think of where the band did that, as well . I think it worked also because Bryan and Bon sound similar. both voices certainly go with the music very well.
Late,
grmpysmrf[/reply]
Maiden dudes,…Maiden
Is it too late to mention Van Halen? I saw them with Sammy Hagar back in '95 or '96. Sure when Sammy came to the band they changed their sound but it always bothered me when he would sing DLR songs. He didn’t exactly try to copy DLR but he just didn’t sound right singing those songs. And then there’s the Gary Sharone experiment…
Sammy Hagar put out a really good book if you dig bios called Red, a few years ago. Entertaining as hell, tells how insane Eddie VH is.
But anyway, he always said he felt real uncomfortable doing Roth songs because they were in Roth’s realm as a performer, the party guy etc. I’m sure a lot of that had to do with label pressure.
I’ll have to check that out. I’ve never really heard of Eddie being insane.
I’ll have to check that out. I’ve never really heard of Eddie being insane.
I’ve heard him described as an impossible to deal with drunk but don’t think insane in the literal sense would be accurate…
Insane is probably not the right word, but he’s definitely in some sort of alternate head-space…
It’s a great book, still haven’t read Diamond Dave’s though.
As to not deviate away from the OP, I recommend Danny Sugerman’s book but especially John Densmore’s book, on The Doors. Great stuff.
Diamond Dave’s book is a trip…a nutty free associative rambling freak out…
OK, Sabbath, Iron Maiden, AC/DC, Van Halen have already been mentioned…
I’d also add Pink Floyd, Genesis, Faith No More, even Revolting Cocks.
I’d also add Pink Floyd, Genesis, Faith No More, even Revolting Cocks.
To me PF is so-so, that could’ve went in either direction but man…those two Gilmour PF albums are completely dated sounding. I’ve noticed that a majority of any PF fans I have met that like those two albums are usually older, hippie types. Very adult contemporary albums, to me.
Not getting the FNM reference though. Are you saying you are against their reunion? Let me tell ya, I saw them live 3 years ago and it has been the best show I have ever seen. It was like they never broke up, or got out of shape…if you’re bored, the show I saw is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fypsYAfhcwc
Are you talking about Pink Floyd after Syd Barrett? Or Pink Floyd after Roger Waters?