Marilyn Manson 'Born Villain'

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[reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply]He’s probably just hittin it. Even though I think she’s a no talent I’d go for a donkey punch.

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[reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply]He’s probably just hittin it. Even though I think she’s a no talent I’d go for a donkey punch.

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[reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply]He’s probably just hittin it. Even though I think she’s a no talent I’d go for a donkey punch.

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[reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply]He’s probably just hittin it. Even though I think she’s a no talent I’d go for a donkey punch.

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[reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply]He’s probably just hittin it. Even though I think she’s a no talent I’d go for a donkey punch.

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[reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply]He’s probably just hittin it. Even though I think she’s a no talent I’d go for a donkey punch.

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[reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply]He’s probably just hittin it. Even though I think she’s a no talent I’d go for a donkey punch.

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[reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply]He’s probably just hittin it. Even though I think she’s a no talent I’d go for a donkey punch.

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[reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply]He’s probably just hittin it. Even though I think she’s a no talent I’d go for a donkey punch.

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[reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply]He’s probably just hittin it. Even though I think she’s a no talent I’d go for a donkey punch.

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[reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply]He’s probably just hittin it. Even though I think she’s a no talent I’d go for a donkey punch.

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[reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply][reply]He’s probably just hittin it. Even though I think she’s a no talent I’d go for a donkey punch.

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What is all this about?

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Well then answer my question above. Based off of those samples are there any songs to look out for?

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Well then answer my question above. Based off of those samples are there any songs to look out for?

Honestly the whole album sounded strong. Here are the links to check out the snippets:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOCZmxl0NQo&feature=related

Regarding individual songs, “Pistol Whipped” was very good and has a really catchy chorus and rad vocal layering in the verse that recalls the different voices he used throughout ‘Antichrist Superstar’. “Murderers Are Getting Prettier Every Day” was a throwback to the heaviness of tracks like “1996” on ‘Antichrist Superstar’. Heaviest track they’ve done since maybe “Burning Flag”. “The Gardener” is a cool spoken word over a nice hypnotic bassline that sounds like White Zombie’s “Black Sunshine”. “Breaking the Same Old Ground” is sort of a modern day “Man That You Fear”. “Lay Down Your Goddamn Arms” and “The Flowers of Evil” had a really heavy Paul Barker-ish bass groove. “Overneath the Path of Misery” is the song we heard in the Born Villain trailer w/Shia LeBouf, and it’s more fleshed out and stronger. “Children of Cain” has the arena rock thing I was talking about. Sounds amazing.

The whole thing sounded pretty excellent. And I may be a fanboy but I am also very critical of Manson and I thought the last 2 records were really spotty. This one is definitely going to please people if they ever liked him to begin with. Haters will continue to hate as always I’m sure…

Even lyrically, it’s definitely a step up. The lyrics that do address women (which is kind of Manson’s version of what Bush is to Al Jourgensen i.e. he’s done too much dumb lyrics about it on the last few albums) are actually scornful of the fact that he’s wasted so much time thinking about them i.e. the song “Pistol Whipped”.

“No Reflection” was by far the most simplistic, stripped down, and dull of the songs. Not that it’s bad but it is more like “ok we need a dancey single” whereas the others sounded more fleshed out and thoughtful.

There is also some “stadium rock” type stuff for lack of a better word in some of these songs that he actually pulls off really well. It’s very eclectic with nods to a lot of great influences.

Live he’s a disaster still it seems, but I’m happy that he can do a great album which I knew he had in him and Twiggy really stepped it up here with the songwriting and guitar playing.

Overall the sound is like a heavier, more industrial ‘Mechanical Animals’. The programming and bombast of ‘Golden Age of Grotesque’ meets the nods to arena rock and melodic songwriting of ‘Mechanical Animals’. Plus some of the stylistic traits of ‘Antichrist Superstar’ (the rawness and indsutrial sounds, plus layering of different kinds of vocal styles), and a nod or two to ‘Portrait of an American Family’ tribal percussion grooves.

The programming is actually really good this time so they finally utilized Chris Vrenna’s abilities properly unlike the last record. Lots of interesting sounds and layering.

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I like Merzbow.

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vrenna is still in the band?!

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What is all this about?

Just go with it,baby…

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vrenna is still in the band?!

He quit after they finished the record.

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[reply]vrenna is still in the band?!

He quit after they finished the record.[/reply]
Probably to save Manson the trouble of firing him.
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