I’m surprised no one has said anything about this…
i think everyone should watch this video
I’m surprised no one has said anything about this…
i think everyone should watch this video
related: http://pitchfork.com/news/43474-sonypias-warehouse-burns-in-uk-riots/
"A Sony distribution warehouse in North London was burned to the ground around 4:00 a.m. GMT this morning during the third straight night of riots in the UK, as the BBC reports. The 200,000 square-foot center housed the entire inventory of PIAS UK, the primary distribution hub for more than 150 independent labels.
No injuries were reported in the blaze, but all inventory is feared lost. XL/Beggars, Warp, Rough Trade, Domino, 4AD, Sub Pop, Secretly Canadian, Jagjaguwar, Drag City, Thrill Jockey, FatCat, Kompakt, Mute, Ninja Tune, Vice, and Soul Jazz are among those affected."
The riots aren’t “UK”…they’re English. As far as I know there has been no rioting in Wales and Northern Ireland…there has definately been none in Scotland.
Folk taking advantage of free shopping.
Yeah I read Warp Records entire back catalog was destroyed. Horrible stuff.
Yeah I read Warp Records entire back catalog was destroyed. Horrible stuff.
Yep…shit happens unfortunately.
Same thing happened to Sugar Hill Records.
Yeah I read Warp Records entire back catalog was destroyed. Horrible stuff.
Including their copies of “Trash Humpers”. That movie is a curse I tell you.
That’s alright. Independent labels suck anyway. If the music was any good it would be on a major.
That’s alright. Independent labels suck anyway. If the music was any good it would be on a major.
Shut up, Mr Iron Maiden.
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My words exactly.
I’m wondering how soon this shit will hit America?
Probably never … most of the people here are jackasses and think corporate America is our friend.
Late,
grmpysmrf
I don’t follow.
But seriously, if “Corporate America” is what’s keeping us from being overwrought by riots and social chaos I’m all for it.
they’re keeping us poor, or unemployed, over worked, underpaid, unheralthy and misdirecting american discourse for their own gain and just all around lowering the qaulity of life for americans.
How many employees has ford laid off in the last few years versus their ceo who has how many raises? One example among many.
Late,
grmpysmrf
Everything is a “conspiracy” with you lefties isn’t it?!
You think we’d be better off under a socialist form of government?? You’d just be replacing CEO’s with govt beauracrats.
So stop yer whining.
I’m wondering how soon this shit will hit America?
It is happening in America, just on a much, much smaller scale. US authorities have also had more room to work with confronting/punishing minors than England does. Also, it’s not connected to “corporate greed.” I suppose you could argue that it’s a trickle-down effect of larger politics, but that would really be stretching logic and ignoring a lot of other factors along the way.
http://www.npr.org/2011/08/11/139507252/officials-in-phila-plan-curfews-to-curb-teen-violence
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/08/12/philadelphia.flash.mob.violence/index.html
http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/126828998.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/07/chicago-flash-mobs-police_n_872730.html
I hate when people try to justify thug behavior or attach some political rational to it. This London crap initially started because of some incident where a guy was shot by the cops. I don’t know all the facts about the case, but I would guess that some people (or MANY people) have some very legitimate concerns or grievances with the police or leadership.
That shouldn’t translate to burning down your city and trashing every bodega and setting cars on fire, though.
Same thing happened here in LA 20 years ago. A bunch of jackasses used an incident as supposed justification or reason to destroy the city, loot stores, and beat innocent people. If you think that’s some sort of revolution against the tyranny of the corporate overlords and blue-blood money holders . . . Wow! You couldn’t be more wrong.
Wanna know who gets screwed the worst in situations like this? The people that you supposedly champion, Grumps. Struggling average Joes and Janes that are scraping by to keep that liquor store open so they can feed their kids. And middle class blokes and small business owners . . . All of whom take stuff like this as a death blow.
Richie Rich and Daddy Warbucks have all the money they can handle and are well protected with every insurance you can imagine. Sony won’t tell you this, but there’s probably just as many execs smiling that they can get reimbursed instead of having to unload all those copies of Last Sucker or Brokencyde or whatever crap was in the warehouse via sales channels.
So, preach on about the eternal battle of good versus evil, poor versus rich, republicans versus democrats . . . . But please do not imply that there is any noble ideological concern behind these hordes of savage animal dickheads.
Yeah I read Warp Records entire back catalog was destroyed. Horrible stuff.
from Warp’s website:
Unfortunately some releases may never be available physically again
That’s a terrible shame.
Regarding the riots and looters, what many people are failing to understand is that most of the rioters/looters are mid-late teens who appear to have no concept of responsibility or consequences and cannot discern between who might be deserving of having their feathers ruffled (white collar crooks) and who’s not; they’re tearing shit up and robbing what they can because they can, it’s a thrill and there’s a mob mentality to it.
Unfortunately many “left” commentators straight away jumped to grand overarching reasons as to why the yobs did what they did, as if somehow to mitigate it. All this fairy crap about “these kids are angry and want to be heard”… well that about sums up most kids, and most kids don’t go picking on innocent people and burning their shops down. There’s loads of interviews on youtube and news media where the rioters/looters give their “reasons” and they are invariably about causing mayhem just for the fuck of it, coupled with breathtaking ignorance of the consequences of their actions.
Now I have no time for the Tory ponces or the cops and I’m not surprised that Cameron looks like potato when he tries to smooth it all out, but the yobs are yobs. They’ll do this shit at any chance they get, it’s just craic to them. Blaming it on the consequences of the underclass doesn’t work because there are many from that kind of upbringing who don’t act like that and can make something positive of their lives. Bad parenting and no social outlets for teenagers can probably be attributed as causes to some of the yobs.
There’s nothing political about the riots and there’s no agenda, no goals. So they shouldn’t be treated as political activists the way some commentators seems to think they should. Diverting the issue to the other type of criminals (bankers and what not) who’ve got away with their crimes is not the answer nor is it that relevant. The truth about the London riots shouldn’t be ignored just because there’s a bunch of suited criminals still walking the streets.
Everything is a “conspiracy” with you lefties isn’t it?!
You think we’d be better off under a socialist form of government?? You’d just be replacing CEO’s with govt beauracrats.
So stop yer whining.
Boy its all or nothing with you righties isn’t it?
Who said anything about socialism? How about a little regulation? How about a check on this corporate power. We need a balance of free market and gov’t over sight. So working joes don’t work 19 3/4 years for said. Corproration only to be “laid off” So they don’t have to pay retirement benefits.
Gunnar.
I wasn’t suggesting that innocent people need to be shot and beaten like reginald denny. I was suggesting that the folk of the usa rise up and perhaps get violent against opression not against each other (as they most often do in riots)
I’m not familiar with the london riots. I haven’t been following the story. I don’t know any details behind any of this. So I don’t know the cause or even if its ceasing…
But you make a good point about insurance kicking in about lost inventory. That may as well be massive sale that’s bought in bulk!
This is why I usually type long winded rants on subjects like this so I’m not misinterpreted. When I keep it short it comes out wrong.
Late,
grmpysmrf
Mick
When seattle was rioting over the imf and the world bank it was the homeless teens on the fringes of seattle that started the riots and the violence. Sound like this situation is no different.
Late,
grmpysmrf
i believe that a lot of these looters, rioters were in for the joy ride because they have nothing better to do. this isn’t punk rock. it’s about having no parent/parents to talk to in an overcrowded, multi-cultural society, where kids have education (maybe) and no grounding or support to get the hell out. okay. it IS punk rock. i guess the difference is that now there really is a finite number of opportunities and it’s possibly getting more difficult
to chuck it all and go on the dole.just me sayin’.
did anyone actually watch the video?
he explained the incident that sparked the riots.