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For me it was the techno dance track “Naive”. when I first heard it, I just can’t believe it was the same band that gave us the blistering opening act for Ministry 89/90 tour. [shocked]

I was amazed at the flexibilty & versatility of the band. .

I take it you hadn’t heard the first 3 albums at that stage???

Naive, Angst, Nihil, and &@#$* are gold.
Everything else is hit or miss, with the '00s stuff being almost entirely miss.

Symbols is still my favourite. Though I do like pretty much all the pre-breakup stuff. I really liked MDFMK too. Witness strangely enough always annoyed me - the lyrics were just a bit too cheesy for me (“the spaceship will come and take us away…” etc.). Though overall Adios is a very cool album.

I really like Don’t Blow Your Top, which has a really similar vibe to the first Pig album (A Poke in the Eye [my favourite Pig album]). The synth bass on No Meat No Man is great.

Did anyone else pick up the limited 84-86 2cd digipack thingie? That’s full of cool stuff. You can really hear the DAF influence on a lot of the tracks. That’s the kind of visiting the past activity that I do find interesting: putting out unreleased stuff.

84-86 is very cool, very different from everything. You can tell that a few of the DBYT tracks came from this.

I’m awfully tempted to sell all my KMFDM after UAIOE.

[laugh]

Seriously, aside from a few singles here and there, the only albums I ever spin anymore are Opium, DBYT, WDYKD, UAIOE, and 84-86.

I usually avoid the new stuff except when it comes out. I give it a shot, then usually put it away. I’ve put on a couple Tohuvabohu songs recently though. The title track is pretty cool. Never really liked UAIOE. Anything 84-99, i’ll listen to.

I usually avoid the new stuff except when it comes out. I give it a shot, then usually put it away. I’ve put on a couple Tohuvabohu songs recently though. The title track is pretty cool. Never really liked UAIOE. Anything 84-99, i’ll listen to.

I absolutely love the title track UAIOE… but overall that album is pretty weak man. Industrial rock and reggae do not mix.

Uaioe is easily one of KMFDM’s best imo along with Don’t Blow Your Top. Even today they hump the jumping on the bandwagon Industrial Metal albums that came after…especially considering the amount of cheese that was added to those later albums.

I love cheese…but not KMFDM cheese.

UAIOE is a weird album for me to get into. I love the title track and “En Esch”. It’s not as terrible of an album that I used to consider it. Listening to it a bit actually. I’m just mixed about the whole rasta/dub thing mainly, I guess. The vocals are kinda iffy. Sascha and Esch were on mark though.

Listening to Money now. Even though it’s said in bold “NO ESCH!”, sounds too much like him on the Deutschmark-Mix of Money. Not credited though.

That’s Esch on the Deutschmark mix - even when Sascha sings/speaks german, his intonations don’t resemble Esch’s very closely. Compare the vocals on “Bargeld” to any Esch song, for example. Esch also has songwriting credits on the tracks “Money”, “Vogue” and the aforementioned “Bargeld”. I suspect some of his contributions to the album, albeit minimal have been downplayed in recent years (even with the remaster giving more insightful credits). You can hear his voice on the pre-chorus to Vogue yet there’s no credit given.

Money (the album) always seemed to me like it was assembled from outtakes and remixes of Naive.

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I usually avoid the new stuff except when it comes out. I give it a shot, then usually put it away. I’ve put on a couple Tohuvabohu songs recently though. The title track is pretty cool. Never really liked UAIOE. Anything 84-99, i’ll listen to.

I absolutely love the title track UAIOE… but overall that album is pretty weak man. Industrial rock and reggae do not mix.
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Heh, disagree. UAIOE is my fave. Definitely. It’s probably my favorite reggae album, too.

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I usually avoid the new stuff except when it comes out. I give it a shot, then usually put it away. I’ve put on a couple Tohuvabohu songs recently though. The title track is pretty cool. Never really liked UAIOE. Anything 84-99, i’ll listen to.

I absolutely love the title track UAIOE… but overall that album is pretty weak man. Industrial rock and reggae do not mix.
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Heh, disagree. UAIOE is my fave. Definitely. It’s probably my favorite reggae album, too.[/reply]

I absolutely love the title track UAIOE… but overall that album is pretty weak man. Industrial rock and reggae do not mix.

It’s the closest thing to “reggae” that I own. I’ve been listening to it quite a bit lately. It’s still kinda weird. Some of it works, some of it doesn’t. I like Murder, and Loving Can Be An Art (Conillion’s better) is so-so, but that’s about it with the reggae. I do like More and Faster (although I prefer the single version), UAIOE, and En Esch.

Songs like Rip The System (again, I rather the single version), and Ganja Rock (which are technically the same song, but hacked up versions of the original, good version imo).

Completely forgot about Thrash Up and Thumb Thumb (Cough, Kickin’ Ass, cough). They’re not bad, but not great either.

And about Money. I think Sascha had too much on his plate at the time and decided to half ass the second part. He was just coming off doing Excessive Force, then finding out that Esch’s part was rejected and and to fill in gaps. Blood was from those sessions, but somehow ended up getting reworked and released on Angst.

It’s an album, or maybe an EP, but it’s certainly “original” stuff. He even redid Sex on the Flag, which also imo was better than the original version.

Good album, but it has it’s filler, and a couple recyclables. Pig does it all of the time, you know? Doesn’t necessarily make it a terrible thing…

What I love is that when KMFDM was putting out UAIOE, Pig was putting out A Poke In The Eye, actually beating his former bandmates to the metal/industrial sound by a couple of years.

Seems like KMFDM was the last to crossover. Ministry had already done, few others, and Pig. Took them until 93 to finally do it. They did what they wanted to do though instead of doing what the others were doing.

And personally, pig was ahead for awhile (poke and lard). By the time Swining came around, Angst was starting to make waves. Both came out around the same time though.

What I love is that when KMFDM was putting out UAIOE, Pig was putting out A Poke In The Eye, actually beating his former bandmates to the metal/industrial sound by a couple of years.

I don’t really think of Poke as being metal/industrial. It’s got a lot of angry white funk / foetus in it. It’s still my favorite Pig album and the only one I still have much interest in listening to.

Heh, disagree. UAIOE is my fave. Definitely. It’s probably my favorite reggae album, too.

I can’t even begin to tell you how nuts that comment is.

[reply]What I love is that when KMFDM was putting out UAIOE, Pig was putting out A Poke In The Eye, actually beating his former bandmates to the metal/industrial sound by a couple of years.

I don’t really think of Poke as being metal/industrial. It’s got a lot of angry white funk / foetus in it. It’s still my favorite Pig album and the only one I still have much interest in listening to.[/reply]

Overall it’s not metal, but the first track is constructed around a sampled Metallica riff.

Didn’t see this posted yet and don’t want to start too many KMFDM threads around here, so:

http://www.kmfdm.net/DoS/

This is the kind of frustrating song these guys EXCEL at. I mean, there’s so many cool parts contrasted by annoying elements like Lucia, who really needs to tone it down. Yeah, it’s an energetic song, but her voice is ill-suited for it and I wish Sascha would have the good graces to recognize when it doesn’t work with otherwise good music.