there is a huge difference between someone knocking on your door, and exploration of needy people.
I’m assuming you meant “exploitation…” So the question is, what is the knock on my door s’posed/going to lead to?
dont try to feed me a line of bullshit that excuses being rude to someone at your front door because of the crusades, prop 8, or whatever other SUPER VALID problem you and i have with organized religions at large.
First off, who said I was rude? They came to the door. I answered and saw how well dressed they were and I said, “witnesses?” they said “yes.” I said, “We are not interested, thank you.” and started to shut the door, the girl persisted, “but wait, can I ask… Can I ask why you’re not interested?” I said, “because I don’t believe in magic.” She said “well, we don’t either… what does that have to do with us… with witnesses?” and I already wrote how the rest of this transpired. She came to my door and asked me to explain myself/challenged me. Talk about rude!!
the guy coming to your front door to ask if you have ‘heard the good word’ is doing just that.
Since when are strict gender roles, intolerance and willful ignorance “good” words?
being rude to him for that is the same as being rude to a neo-nazi because he doesn’t hold a door open for you.
^ ??? this does not flow at all.
A neo nazi holding the door open for me or not will have no bearing on me being rude to him or not. I would be disrespectful to a neo nazi because I think his brand of intolerance has no place in today’s world. and before you point out that my intolerance of neo nazi’s is still intolerance and makes me no better than them, I will point out that I said his “brand” of intolerance. intolerance of the intolerant is not the same thing. We need to make sure that we’re all aware of each other’s rights and any group or person that stands to try to limit the rights of others deservers no tolerance to their positions and actions. So, I say my intolerance =/= to theirs.
now, if that man who comes to your door is asking to sign a petition to uphold prop 8, or to ask for a donation to a bigoted charity, THEN be as rude as you want. but if the guy is just trying to share what he beleives to be the greatest truth with you, what the fuck ever, sack up and deal with it for a minute or two.
Are you kidding me? What’s the difference between him showing up at your house with said petition or him proselytizing at his church about it? which pretty much leads back to my first comment in your post.
you know, perhaps individual members may not agree with all of what their church stands for, but then it begs the question, why are they there? It’s not like it’s a political party where you take a little bad with the good ‘cause you hope to be able to change things. Churches don’t work like that. the best you could hope for is starting your own church and depopulating those other churches.
i am aware of the dangers of religion as a weapon, i am aware of all the horrible things done in the names of varied gods. but that isnt what is in question here.
It’s not!!!1!!!11?! even though in your next block of text you you say “they just want to share this thing that is so important to them.” This this thing that has been so destructive the world over? They’re selling you a lie to make you become part of their weapon. Whether it’s intentional or unintentional that doesn’t change the outcome of what they’re doing.
being rude, or hating people who have some sort of religious belief just because they do believe and want to share this thing that is so important to them is just the same being a pushy zealot who NEEDS you to believe what you believe.
They are completely different if for no other reason than I’m not out knocking on doors.
like i said, im no christian, but im a human being, and when someone is trying to do something kind, even if i dont care/agree//have any interest in it, i will be polite.
I believe that it’s up to the individual to dictate their own behavior. If they want to be rude to misguided overtly unjust organizations they are well within their rights, especially if that group knocks on your door.
Let me just recap… you are of the impression that unless said groups are bringing around a hateful petition for you to sign, that you have to be nice to them even though that same group, if they show up at your door without said petition, will have that same stance at the pretty clubhouse they are trying to get you to come to. What’s the difference? is it the ostrich syndrome? because you don’t see it on your doorstep it’s not there? You are wrong sir!
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