If the album was ready for people to listen to four months ago, why is the release date still over two months away?
I think it’s a dumb idea. But i’m guessing, send out a few promos to reviews, etc., try to build up some buzz until the album comes out. I think Al’s overestimating his album in the modern day market. Only the loyal fans are going to buy it anyway. Instead a few metal sites probably have the album, or a sampler.
so is it official he isn’t touring this album? and by touring, I mean doing 4 or 5 dates around america? I don’t expect him to without Mikey…
Only the loyal fans are going to buy it anyway.
I think you mean “fan” and yeah, that’s me. and yeah I’ll get it.
Late,
grmpysmrf
I’ll buy it too.
Because in the end, the REAL last sucker is US.
If the album was ready for people to listen to four months ago, why is the release date still over two months away?
First off, I didn’t listen to a completed ready-for-sale album. I was played a good handful (I’m guessing about 6 or 7 tracks) of tracks that were completed, but that doesn’t mean the album was ready for release. They would still need to do final formatting, cover design, packaging, distribution set up, etc. I think they were very realistic in targeting their release date (plus the book and DVD stuff was being worked out at the same time, so it wasn’t like the album was the ONLY thing they were working on).
Unless someone is releasing a download-only album, there is still plenty of work to be done following completion of the actual songs.
Does anyone remember what it was like waiting for a Ministry album in the 90’s? Going down to the record shop on the “release date” only to be told it was pushed back, again, and again, and again. I don’t like a whole lot of what 13th Planet puts out, but I’m impressed that they can at least stick to their noted release dates these days.
Does anyone remember what it was like waiting for a Ministry album in the 90’s? Going down to the record shop on the “release date” only to be told it was pushed back, again, and again, and again. I don’t like a whole lot of what 13th Planet puts out, but I’m impressed that they can at least stick to their noted release dates these days.
Right?
Fucking Filth Pig.
Anyway, 13th Planet had some major delay problems for awhile there. Sex-o Olympic-O was super late, iirc.
Right?
Fucking Filth Pig.
HAHA!! That is the one I was thinking of primarily.
My local independent shop had a big erase board behind the checkstand with the new and upcoming releases and their dates next to them. I’d come in like clockwork for . . . damn, I don’t even remember how long it was . . . more than a few months, though. The date would just keep being erased and re-written, over and over.
At Wherehouse it was a different procedure. I’d have to ask the clerk who would grab a stack of photocopied pages listing all the upcoming releases . . . “When’s that? June 2? Yeah, sorry, Bro. It’s showing June 16 now. See you in two weeks.”
Anyway, 13th Planet had some major delay problems for awhile there. Sex-o Olympic-O was super late, iirc.
I didn’t know there were any issues with the RamCo CD’s. I wasn’t paying attention as that stuff held absolutely no interest for me.
One or two of the Ministry/RevCo releases leaked on the internet months before they actually came out, I’m sure Cocked and Loaded did and maybe another one, but i’m sure you’re right about the official release Of Sexo Olympico. It’s just a pity that the remixxxxxxxxx albums weren’t permanently delayed.
Interview with Al, haven’t read it yet, but the opening sentence mentions vampire fang dental implants? Oh and he’s drinking a big glass of wine too, so much for looking after his health. I understand red wine can be good for you, but i don’t think it’s some kind of magical health tonic. http://www.texasmonthly.com/story/industrial-strength
He sounds pretty with it in that interview.
Clearly he’s got good days and bad days.
Just finished reading…probably one of his more lucid interviews in recent years, a good read.
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Yeah, i was surprised, he definitely sounds ok. Good for him, i’m sure it must be tough for someone with so many past drug problems to stay clean, so i respect him for that, now he needs to drink a bit less maybe, if the last time i saw them’s anything to go by. He was in good spirits but obviously very drunk and didn’t know where the fuck he was at times. It probably didn’t help that the venue was really hot and oppressively humid either. Still, it was an enjoyable show and i wish him all the best. I hope he sees sense and doesn’t put out a dub album though, when i said i hoped for something different before i forgot to say “but not reggae-flavoured different”.
. I don’t go back and listen to and pine for my old albums, or the Lollapalooza days, or Psalm 69 selling millions of records. MaybeI’m really just getting old and mellow. But I don’t pine for any of the things I did in the book. I pine for tomorrow.”
Jourgensen the great contrarian. Picking apart this paragraph without having any emotional context to put it into reveals someone deeply insecure with his own past. I mean, why bother namedropping two specific events from over twenty years ago when you’re going to immediately follow it with stating you’re only about the future?
A little googling turned this up in a minute, regarding Relapse
“AJ: Well you know what it is, we did Psalm 69 and everyone expected Psalm 70 but we delivered Filth Pig, so this is my Psalm 70.”
“I don’t like being onstage. I don’t like having a book out about me. I don’t like sitting here talking to you about me,” Jourgensen says. “I get it. People will read this book and freak. That’s their journey now, not mine. I’m done. When I’m done with something, I’m done
Peligro might be onto something calling Al out for this type of anti-celebrity posturing. Al’s self image seems so mired in being a self imposed legacy act that all attempts at embracing progression in his career I easily forget when he waxes on like this. Just be honest. You have books to sell. Don’t keep on keeping on with this harebrained self pitying Godfather III nonsense.
A sense of humour from Al?
From the FB page of his pet dogs;
JUNE 21, 2013 Due to excruciating pressure and critique from The Onion’s A/V Club, Ministry has hired Al Jourgensen’s 12-year-old nephew to re-design the cover art and also changed the title of the upcoming Ministry release. Production in Germany on the previous title and artwork was called to a halt at 7:00 am GST on June 19, 2013.
A/V club members sited the title and artwork for Ministry’s “From Beer to Eternity” as stupid and misogynistic, comparing both to Spinal Tap’s “Smell The Glove” pooh-poohing the new release and slagging Jourgensen for his “bag of chicks.” The industrial metal godfather has been forced to reconsider his evil tongue-in-cheek ways and has reeled it back in. Here is the new Cover Art
that’s actually a great cover.
“Smell The Glove”.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
We can now confirm that they read Prongs.
Talk about being butt-hurt over a snarky comedy forum making light of your tongue-in-cheek album title/cover! At least Al doesn’t hang out with us like Sascha K used to and dedicate entire songs to our criticism like a true butt-hurt commando.
This cover is an improvement.
This is an important point that Nick F points to, re Al’s posturing. He’s completely inconsistent and erratic in these interviews: one month he sounds like he has his head screwed on and is lucid, the next he’s back to hick Al. This is no surprise of course for a man with substance abuse problems and a fried & paranoid mind. Through all these moments though the music and direction (and artwork) is embarrassingly puerile. It is, of course, tiresome to complain ad nauseum about stupid Al and stupid Ministry and for Al apologists to have to listen to it. It’s also probably the case that the apparently strange loyalty that some still show to him and nu-Ministry and the sifting through the shitpile looking for a kernel of something good is encouraged by all the moaning.
It should be noted though that all the moaning comes from a place of merit, though that place was been well and truly tapped. But if the moaners go away the apologists will stay and prongs will become the Pixxx Army. That would be a shame. There should at least be a balance considering Ministry are fucking terrible now.
When Ministry turned the best reason to come here was for non-Ministry stuff (unless it was some gem from past Ministry, like Wemp’s photos and whatnot)
The best threads may not have even been music related, like the BBW thread.
Whenever Al farts it becomes the focal point here which makes the place less interesting.
(Yes, of course new Ministry stuff is likely to be covered - it is a Ministry board. But I don’t think I’m the only one who thinks prongs is better when it’s not concerned with Al’s gayness or the "dopeness of that riff on ‘I fucked your granny on a hay bale’ off the new Ministry album 'Hey Kiddies, I’m drinking again)
When the good taste revolution comes all you Al lovers will be first up against the wall.
Talk about being butt-hurt over a snarky comedy forum making light of your tongue-in-cheek album title/cover! At least Al doesn’t hang out with us like Sascha K used to and dedicate entire songs to our criticism like a true butt-hurt commando.
This cover is an improvement.
Good grief some of you are uptight. I don’t see how one could read that as butthurt. Good humored, I’d say. I make my jokes freely and openly and when Angie and Al have seen them (including comics) they’ve said they were hilarious.
I never care to take the role of defender on this page, but the Jourgensens really are in a no-win situation with a lot of y’all. They make a goofball, obviously tongue-in-cheek heavy metal album cover and they get called out for being stupid metalhead dumbasses. Then they make a joke obviously admitting to the goofiness of it and people say they’re being butthurt.
It’s just jokes, Kids. Lighten up. The Jourgensens can make them just as well as we can.
I’m not sitting here wracking my brain as to the meaning of it all. It’s a good joke and ironically a better pun than the final title. My observation was the Ministry camp is privy to every single piece of media and gets pointlessly reactionary (like us?).