Edward Snowden

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVAMZ5NTaqw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I wonder what the Ostrich thinks about all this.

Pure profanity, the the last result of the feeble minded with no vocabulary…
is this how you think you win in a debate? not by explaining yourself but just calling the other person names? … so that’s what I’ve been doing wrong. [rolleyes]
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grmpysmrf

AHAHAHAH! This is fucking incredible coming from you, dude. Despite the fact that you and I both have no ill will directed towards Snowden and seem to support what he’s done as far as exposing the powers that be of spying… come on, dude. You are the last person to accuse someone of using mindless profanity in some feeble attempt at “winning” an already lost “debate” on the internet.

How many arguments have I had with you where you have said jack-fucking-shit other than essentially “fuck you faggot you’re dumb”? You need to either become far more aware of the way you present yourself or become less of a hypocrite.

What’s worse is I agree with a lot of your views on this matter (and many other things, if we’re gonna be honest here; except I ain’t no flower-in-my-hair-kumbaya singing-fucking hippie). I support what Snowden has done. He isn’t a god though. I wouldn’t blow him like a lot of the liberal folks would. However, I support what he’s done as far as exposing the sneaky fucks behind all of this horrible bullshit. But you… you… man, goddamn. You… yooou

How many arguments have I had with you where you have said jack-fucking-shit other than essentially “fuck you faggot you’re dumb”?

It’s always coupled with the flaw in your logic that leads to the post of “fuck you faggot your dumb.”

So, really it’s “Fuck you faggot, you’re dumb and here is why”

So it’s different than just you’re pointed profanity and calling of stupid with no justification or clarification as carmangary keeps posting.
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grmpysmrf

Shut up, Faggots.

You dissect posts because you are a moron. If you would listen or read what someone is telling you overall and respond to that instead of responding to every sentence which, in part, may not even relay what the person is trying to say, you might actually have some comprehension of the situation.

I dissect posts because I have the ability to understand them and the ability to demonstrate where I don’t agree

You’re a comic just like those Mystery Science 3000 robots or those wieners that go to a Rocky Horror Picture show who instead of taking in the body of work and judging it on its merits you want to pick and choose every sentence to find a flaw and then either make fun of it or take it completely out of context so you can then turn it around.

So you are against details? no wonder you’re so easily duped. it’s those details that sell your ideas. It’s the details that create understanding instead of assumed knowledge that is guaranteed to back fire on you.

You’re not smart.

what does that make you since you can’t even adequately express something that is apparently important to you?

You’re just like the dumbasses in high school who make jokes like “You haven’t had a piece of ass since your finger slipped through toilet paper.” That’s exactly what I think of you and it is why I really have no desire to express anything to you… what’s the point?

So you’re elitist against bad humor… I’ll give you that so am I.

But “what’s the point?” how about to accurately portray your ideas and thoughts so maybe we can find common ground or at least understand our sides a little better. All you’ve managed to do is at worst state your side as a crazy ass gun nut and at best come off as a hustler “come on bro… come on… come on, you know, you know come on bro.”

Anybody that has followed this thread has a side and has taken sides whether they post in it or not. Some agree with you some agree with me. some think you’re the fool some think I’m the fool. But I’m confident that the people who don’t support my side have a pretty good understanding of why I hold the belief that I do. I would dare a wager that those that don’t support your side Still don’t really understand why you hold your side. Guns do nothing for personal safety, so what good are they…? and “only criminals will have guns” is hardly a solid argument to keep them.

You’ll just dissect it and make asanine observations.

If your posts are asinine, absolutely I will

In the past I have stated factual information that you have dismissed as being ridiculous.

LIKE WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?! what factual information have you put forth? your friend who killed a dude breaking in to kill him? that’s hardly “factual information” given the plethora of information that doesn’t have your friend winning that scenario.

What is the point in arguing with a fool who, when presented with facts, dismisses it since it doesn’t fit their “world view”.

you mean like this guy?..

Which world model guaranteed the right to have arms and then took them away after the population had already become heavily armed with them? There isn’t one. So all of your world models you claim to exist don’t.

I offered Australia you dismissed it.

What about the questions/observations that MQhanlon asked you in this thread? Not only did you completely dismiss them you flat out ignored them… You mad at yourself for being a fool, bro?

I’m certainly not giving up because I can’t get my point across.

so you admit you can’t get your point across?

I am giving up because you refuse to accept a point that is made.

What is your point? I refuse to accept that there is a point to be made because you haven’t made one yet…

how about in one sentence you tell us what your point is? A sentence too short? how about a paragraph? What exactly is your point?

To overuse afraid, talking to you is like talking to a brick wall.

Well, perhaps if you talked to me in something other than bumper sticker logic, it might be different.
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grmpysmrf

Good grief.

You know what your problem is, DJ? I’ll tell ya. You’re not reading Grumpy’s posts properly. They’re actually totally awesome, but you’re trying to read them slowly and carefully when the truth is, they are supposed to be read in the rapid-fire no pause voice of the guy from the MICRO MACHINES commercials. No, seriously, if you read them in the voice of this guy all of your cares will melt away and you’ll be back over at my house grilling up steaks, pounding beers, and shooting hippies with our AK47’s in no time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2egGfd5j_k

I actually agree with grmpy for once. The problem is that by being grmpy it’s hard to tell when he’s right or wrong because his posting is so obnoxious that most people are judging on that and not the content.

Honestly this idiotic fantasy of defending one’s daughter or family from “the government” with a rifle is such a fucking hoot it’s really great to see it actually spelled out in print with serious conviction!

I, too, would like to go on record and say that that I do NOT want to be humped in the butt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKE3dIrRIbg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[reply]Honestly this idiotic fantasy of defending one’s daughter or family from “the government” with a rifle is such a fucking hoot it’s really great to see it actually spelled out in print with serious conviction!

You realize I was talking about the extreme case, right? Obviously that isn’t going to happen tomorrow but what state of affairs will USA be in one or two hundred years from now? Take a look at history and guys like Hitler. That wasn’t that long ago. And, I know you can’t fend off the entire govt or even an Army with a rifle. But, you can go down fighting. Or, you can be a stinking hippy pacifist like grumpy and get humped in the butt for not sticking up for yourself. I’m not taking it up the butt.[/reply]

Right so the point is that in order to live out your macho fantasy of “going down fighting” (or to facilitate it for future Americans), you’re willing to condone a situation which continually results in instances of tragedy rather than heroism.

I was pro gun for a long time but the argument just doesn’t hold up anymore in the modern era. And I find it amusing how anyone who can actually argue it coherently 99% of the time doesn’t even own a fucking gun, it’s just some hypothetical shit for them. Do you actually own a gun?

Also with this government conspiracy stuff, people forget that at the end of the day we’re all people. Hitler didn’t sneak into office on a platform of lies and brainwash an entire population as the misinformed often believe.

No, a population was backed into a corner and so they CHOSE a radical solution which might I add he was very up front about what he was all about from day one.

And the closest to an attempt on Hitler’s life came from the military inner circle itself, not some patriotic Rambo civilian figure. As would be exactly the same case in 200 years in this hypothetical America we’re talking about. The effective resistance would come from within the government itself, splinter groups and sabotage. They might enlist civilian aid, but they would SUPPLY them with powerful weapons.

At the end of the day, civilians being able to bare arms is nothing more than a token gesture that is increasingly antiquated and ridiculous. A gun for hunting, fine, but not a fucking assault rifle. The founding fathers could not possibly have envisioned where we are now.

You realize I was talking about the extreme case, right? Obviously that isn’t going to happen tomorrow…

Or even in your lifetime. So instead of binding future america in fear why don’t you try being responsible?

Take a look at history and guys like Hitler. That wasn’t that long ago. And, I know you can’t fend off the entire govt or even an Army with a rifle. But, you can go down fighting.

What good does that do?so you can feel like a hero/accomplished for the microsecond before your brain shuts off because a bullet is in it now… Thank you, no. especially if that micro second is at the expense of literally thousands of people who have died
unnecessarily at the hands of trigger happy loons.

Or, you can be a stinking hippy pacifist like grumpy and get humped in the butt for not sticking up for yourself. I’m not taking it up the butt.

you’re an idiot, if they’re gonna fuck your ass they’re gonna do it whether you have guns or not. they are stronger than you and more importantly smarter than you and you don’t stand a chance. Scared of rape and yet you don’t seem to be complaining about the high hard one the NRA has steadily been giving you.

Funny how you think all of Australia are “stinking hippie pacifists” because they did exactly what I’m talking about and has been proposed. Even the people over there like you are here screaming the cry of “protection and Hitler and fascism” have even come around and talk about how much better it is now.

you just don’t know and you’re scared of what you don’t know. why don’t you educate yourself so you can be less of a pussy. BITCH
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grmpysmrf

Are you off the drugs void?

your post was great even, rational, but this was actually very eloquent. I may steal it for future arguments cause it’s basically the crux of the entire argument.

you’re willing to condone a situation which continually results in instances of tragedy rather than heroism.

Late,
grmpysmrf

you’re an idiot, if they’re gonna fuck your ass they’re gonna do it whether you have guns or not.

I keep my guns in my butt. Try and hump it and you’re gonna get your wiener shot off, Son! That’s a FACT!!!

If Hitler comes to my house to rape my hypothetical wife, i want a gun. That way, he and his men will be forced to shoot me, and THEN rape my wife. Everyone’s a winner.

I never understood the broads with tight pants that say “JUICY” on the ass. That just seems like they’re begging to be raped.

I’m designing my own line of DOCKERS (because only losers that have given up on life wear sweats) that come with a big embroidered patch on the butt that says, “PROTECTED BY SMITH AND WESSON”.

Yeah,sweat pants in public are the official “I’ve given up on life” look…The sweat pants with flip flops is the “3 days until I commit suicide” look…

And much in the same way that you can read the history of a tree by looking at its rings, you can just look at the t-shirt of Sweat Pants Guy and see his entire week’s (or month’s) history . . . . Dropped a mustard dog on himself, spilled some Chef Boyardee ravioli, a little bit of chocolate ice cream, some Taco Bell . . . .

Sweat Pants Guy (or Girl) is really one of the lowest forms of life. You can tell how they are going to smell before even getting near them. They smell like the contents of a 13 year old boy’s suitcase after coming back from a month at Camp Chippewa . . . magnified by 50.

I never understood the broads with tight pants that say “JUICY” on the ass.

I agree. what’s even worse are the “cheerleader uniforms” bought by the junior high/high schools that say something similar on the butt. I swear it comes from a ‘pedophile’s yearly’ catalogue.
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grmpysmrf

If the government is coming to fuck me in the ass, I’m well armed. This whole homosexual agenda is the cause of all this gayness. Next thing you know some armed homo is gonna be breaking down your door making a bee line straight for your ass. I’ll be waiting. Oh boy will I be waiting. err cocked and loaded.

I’m sure your cock will be loaded. :wink:
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grmpysmrf