Cocksure live review from a Facebook friend

So here’s the Facebook conversation from a friend of mine in NYC who saw Cocksure last night along with some friends. The names are censored so you assholes don’t stalk 'em.

RM
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so far Cocksure sucks … well, you know…
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SG What's up the the fucking fat gold chains? Are they going to perform "My Adidas"?
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RM i hope so!!!
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SG Lmao!
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SG This is flippin painful.
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HS It's tricky
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SG If I'm not mistaken, I think he just rapped in that last song.
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LL Indeed!
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GEM so bad..and the visuals too lol
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GEM think i saw my little pony
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ET Yeah, boring…
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RL That...that was bad.
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If good Industrial music was for everybody, the music world would be very different. I loved the album and would likely really like it live, but it’s not necessarily for everyone.

Just curious . . . Were these people there to see Chris and the gang, or was there another band playing that night?

If good Industrial music was for everybody, the music world would be very different. I loved the album and would likely really like it live, but it’s not necessarily for everyone.

I absolutely love the album too. I think the only song i dont care for is drug a bug. Other than that everything theyve released has been great. Beak beak beakity beak!!!

^Yeah, that’s why I’d like a little context about the particulars of these reviewers. The main flag that signaled to me that they might “just not get it” was that they were shocked that Chris was rapping and that they were all wearing gold chains. CC has mixed in his Scottish rap style into his work for quite some time. It ain’t for everyone, but I think it’s really cool. And if people have followed CC for a while they would probably pick up that the gold chain “swag” schtick was just some good old fashioned ironic douchebaggery.

I’m not defending the guy’s performance, mind you. It may very well have also been complete diarrhea, but I just want to get some perspective.

Just curious . . . Were these people there to see Chris and the gang, or was there another band playing that night?

I don’t know - the guy who’s actually my FB friend is an old-school industrial DJ whose opinion I trust. I don’t know who the other people are.

Texting or social media updating during gigs is the kind of behavior that makes me immediately not trust the “reviewers,” since it’s clear their focus isn’t trained carefully enough on the action in their immediate vicinity. Needless to say, this activity will be a capital offense when I become Grand Imperator of the galaxy.

But maybe I will include this conversation in my upcoming book “The Very Best of Social Media Status Updates” along other stone-cold classics of the genre, such as “Fuck, light’s STILL red, brah - lmao” and “Just 8 soooo much spicy ramen (u madd?)”

Yeah, I was gonna make a comment about that too. I’ve never updated a FB status from a gig because I’m too busy having fun. When I see updates about ANY show . . . . “Slayer killin’ it!!!” or something I just roll my eyes. Yeah, Bro, the show was so captivating that you had to log in on your stupid phone and let everyone know about it.

The only situation I can see where I could theoretically be talking smack online about something in real time would be if I was just sitting in my seat and didn’t have anyone to talk to.

Even during the bands I hate I’ll typically be back at the bar or talking smack with REAL PEOPLE. I’m just kind of repulsed in general by phones at shows. I kind of miss the old days when even getting the disposable camera into the show involved a Prison-style smuggling by clenching it in your buttcheeks or under your ballsack so the guards wouldn’t grab it (God willing) during pat down.

Yeah, the camera phones at concerts is out of fucking control. I was at a show on Saturday that was being webcast, and still everybody was fucking filming. I don’t get it.

Although, I recently saw Suicidal Tendencies, and almost no one was filming. It was spectacular.

Although, I recently saw Suicidal Tendencies, and almost no one was filming. It was spectacular.

Well, see, Suicidal fans are just a different breed. All those years of just asking for a Pepsi - a PEPSI!!! - and not getting it, have hardened them and given them a more realistic outlook on things, and an appreciation of “living in the now.”

Some of these people at the shows with their iPhones…I bet when THEY asked their mom for a Pepsi, they probably got like a full 2-liter bottle! Some people will never understand.

I was in New Orleans last weekend for an Afghan Whigs show…they had signs taped up on the walls that said “We want you to see,feel and enjoy the evening with us.So please don’t watch it through your cell phones.Thank you,The Afghan Whigs”…

I thought that was a cool,dignified way of requesting such a thing…they weren’t being dickhead fascists about it…and the great thing is everyone respected it…I think I might have seen one quick pic taken all night…

This sentiment amongst performers is becoming more and more commonplace and hopefully there is more of a backlash against this cell phone bullshit…

Although, I recently saw Suicidal Tendencies, and almost no one was filming. It was spectacular.

I saw Suicidal at an outdoor festival this summer. It was by far the best set of the entire weekend. They went on at like 1AM and it was the most insane performance.

Mike Muir was awesome, the crowd was total madness, pit was brutal, people setting off fireworks in the pit, etc.

You can get a glimpse here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSdYF8kE7JE

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Although, I recently saw Suicidal Tendencies, and almost no one was filming. It was spectacular.

I saw Suicidal at an outdoor festival this summer. It was by far the best set of the entire weekend. They went on at like 1AM and it was the most insane performance.

Mike Muir was awesome, the crowd was total madness, pit was brutal, people setting off fireworks in the pit, etc.

You can get a glimpse here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSdYF8kE7JE[/reply]

Wow! Incredible energy! I remember seeing Muir (just photos, not live) a few years back and he looked like a fat slob, but this looks really amazing. I’ll have to check them out if I get a chance.

Didn’t their bassist or guitarist just die recently, though? I might be thinking of a different band, but I think it was ST.

Here’s a previous thread, by the way, where we started expressing our views on cameras and phones at shows . . .
http://www.prongs.org/minfiles/forum/gforum.cgi?post=102040;search_string=filming;#102040

Yeah the bass player just died. I think this show was his last performance.

I was shocked at Muir’s performance too. He didn’t stop the entire set.

Here’s a previous thread, by the way, where we started expressing our views on cameras and phones at shows . . .
http://www.prongs.org/minfiles/forum/gforum.cgi?post=102040;search_string=filming;#102040

Funny. I know I’ve bitched about it on a couple forums, Facebook, Twitter, etc.

Basically any chance I get, I will bitch about the concert filmers. We must shame them out of existence.

When pounding brews in the parking lot or out in the patio for smokes, take all the pics you want of you and your homies. Document the event all you want. But out in the theatre (especially down on the floor), it’s the BAND’S time as well as the ticket-buying audience. Again, I don’t care if someone pulls out the camera a couple times during a gig for a few pics, but the people straight up FILMING entire songs or that just keep their phones/cameras held up for the entire show . . . yeah, I’m taking a stand against that crap. And if the only way it can be stopped is by completely banning phones and cameras altogether . . . I’m 100% for that even.

Back to the topic at hand. . .

Who uses the word ‘flippin’ anyway? Maybe when this person stops using baby talk, and starts speaking like an adult, I’ll trust his fucking review.

Here’s a previous thread, by the way, where we started expressing our views on cameras and phones at shows . . .
http://www.prongs.org/minfiles/forum/gforum.cgi?post=102040;search_string=filming;#102040

Was going to say a lot of what was already worked over in that thread, so I will just add one more thing -

The whole ‘over-documentation’ of shows goes back to a deeper problem predating mobile digital doo-dads: people being unable to enjoy anything unless they’ve received social approval to do so.

I think that’s the tragedy of people having to ‘YouTube’ every single concert they go to - suddenly it becomes more important that your peers verify you were indeed there and seemed to be having a rockin’ time, than it was to have that experience in the first place.

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Here’s a previous thread, by the way, where we started expressing our views on cameras and phones at shows . . .
http://www.prongs.org/minfiles/forum/gforum.cgi?post=102040;search_string=filming;#102040

Was going to say a lot of what was already worked over in that thread, so I will just add one more thing -

The whole ‘over-documentation’ of shows goes back to a deeper problem predating mobile digital doo-dads: people being unable to enjoy anything unless they’ve received social approval to do so.

I think that’s the tragedy of people having to ‘YouTube’ every single concert they go to - suddenly it becomes more important that your peers verify you were indeed there and seemed to be having a rockin’ time, than it was to have that experience in the first place.[/reply]

I agree with this completely…

If I had a facebook account I would go on it right now and post something about how I think that people who post to facebook during concerts or anything like them are a bunch of fags.

I would do that too.
Only I would do it while sipping a Strawberry Daiquiri,
at the Thunder From Down Under show.