It’s terrifying to see Boston under military police lockdown. My ma’s like six hours away and is pretty far into the sticks, but still, man, it’s no good.
I have this unoriginal, crazy theory that 75% of all the BS that happens in this and every other country is an elaborate yet transparent ruse designed to make the rest of us go crazy and give people a reason or a method to further whatever the next agenda is that’s designed to make us go crazy, ad infinitum.
Sucks.
Stop blowing shit up, kids.
Most people that are hard core “conservative” in their values aren’t typically also open illegal drug users. I didn’t find it scandalous or mind-blowing or anything. Just thought it was interesting.
Lol those people are all over the place in my town. Even the teachers… they scream and holler about taxes should be cut apparently not realizing that we get paid… wait for it… wait for it… through taxes. Oh yeah stupidty reigns supreme in my town. Hard core conservatives smoking weed is nothing new
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ugh, another american media shit show. did anyone even noticed they passed cispa in the house? probably not.
honestly, i couldn’t fucking care less about the boston bombings. yes, it’s horrible that people were killed. my heart goes out to the victims and their families, but this shit happens everywhere in the world. some of it directly due to american meddling. american lives aren’t worth more than any other human life, and yet the media acts like it does. it’s maddening.
american lives aren’t worth more than any other human life, and yet the media acts like it does.
Ummmm, here in america, american lives most definitely are worth more.
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ugh, another american media shit show. did anyone even noticed they passed cispa in the house? probably not.
honestly, i couldn’t fucking care less about the boston bombings. yes, it’s horrible that people were killed. my heart goes out to the victims and their families, but this shit happens everywhere in the world. some of it directly due to american meddling. american lives aren’t worth more than any other human life, and yet the media acts like it does. it’s maddening.
Actually I did know that CISPA passed. I also know that there was fuck-all I could do to stop it. Because even if people were able to stop it there would be another bill and then another and another that would attempt to do the same thing. In fact, that’s what happened.
Why is it so hard to understand why this would be important to people? There was a bombing here, people died, people were severely injured. But we should care less because this sort of thing happens in other places as well? Is it not possible to be concerned about both? If that’s not the case then why even bring it up?
Why is it that when shit like this happens people have to come out and state how this sort of thing happens everywhere? It’s completely understandable why people would be concerned about a bombing in their own country. What difference does it make it make anyway? What am I going to do about this sort of thing that happens in other countries?
Should the U.S. go in and try to stop it and then get shit on for meddling in foreign affairs? Or should we do nothing and then get shit on for not helping enough? Should we pay more attention to what’s happening outside of our country? Or complain about how we don’t pay enough attention to what is happening in our own country?
[reply]american lives aren’t worth more than any other human life, and yet the media acts like it does.
Ummmm, here in america, american lives most definitely are worth more.
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lol, and this is why people hate americans.
Yeah…
[reply]ugh, another american media shit show. did anyone even noticed they passed cispa in the house? probably not.
honestly, i couldn’t fucking care less about the boston bombings. yes, it’s horrible that people were killed. my heart goes out to the victims and their families, but this shit happens everywhere in the world. some of it directly due to american meddling. american lives aren’t worth more than any other human life, and yet the media acts like it does. it’s maddening.
Actually I did know that CISPA passed. I also know that there was fuck-all I could do to stop it. Because even if people were able to stop it there would be another bill and then another and another that would attempt to do the same thing. In fact, that’s what happened.
Why is it so hard to understand why this would be important to people? There was a bombing here, people died, people were severely injured. But we should care less because this sort of thing happens in other places as well? Is it not possible to be concerned about both? If that’s not the case then why even bring it up?
Why is it that when shit like this happens people have to come out and state how this sort of thing happens everywhere? It’s completely understandable why people would be concerned about a bombing in their own country. What difference does it make it make anyway? What am I going to do about this sort of thing that happens in other countries?
Should the U.S. go in and try to stop it and then get shit on for meddling in foreign affairs? Or should we do nothing and then get shit on for not helping enough? Should we pay more attention to what’s happening outside of our country? Or complain about how we don’t pay enough attention to what is happening in our own country?[/reply]
it’s just the sensationalized way in which it’s covered that really gets to me. as an outsider, it looks like the media values american lives more. and as mr grump put it, apparently so do americans. that really fucking grinds my gears.
and as an outsider, am i supposed to feel bad for america? of course i feel bad for the dead, but you reap what you sow (foreign policy). this is just the beginning, unfortunately.
it’s just the sensationalized way in which it’s covered that really gets to me. as an outsider, it looks like the media values american lives more. and as mr grump put it, apparently so do americans. that really fucking grinds my gears.
and as an outsider, am i supposed to feel bad for america? of course i feel bad for the dead, but you reap what you sow (foreign policy). this is just the beginning, unfortunately.
Well, it was pretty fucking intense. The media has been retarded regarding facts and jumping the gun earlier, yeah. But you couldn’t write the shit that happened. Especially leading up to the second suspect finally getting captured.
So, because of one person’s opinion that means that’s how all Americans feel? Sounds like you need to step back and stop generalizing. I realize it’s still cool to hate America and all but that’s ridiculous. And I’m not even sure that that’s what he meant anyway.
I think - and I’m sure he’ll have no reservations about correcting me if I’m wrong - that he means that when tragedy hits any country their people are their main concern. It’s completely logical and understandable. Also, as I pointed out what difference does it make anyway and why is it not possible to be concerned about what happens on our own soil as well as foreign?
I couldn’t care less how bad you feel for America. I know we’re not the best country on earth and that we have a lot of serious problems but who is your country going to run to first if some shit were to go down over there? Meh, actually fuck where I was going with that. You’re cooking up a ridiculous “Us vs. them” debate that I won’t take part in. I have no issues with Canada. There’s enough problems here for me to worry about anyway.
“Reap what you sow”? Those people had nothing to do with America’s foreign policy. So, that’s a bullshit excuse for trying to justify the actions of two assholes who bombed a marathon. And aside from all that, we still don’t know what their motives were.
yes, i realized that’s a generalization. i just figured if the liberal mr grump thinks that way, then it would be logical to suspect that most americans do as well? obviously not all.
of course you could be concerned about both. it’s just how they disproportionately report on american tragedies and make them worse than they really are. 3 people died and hundred were hurt, horrible. but how about when a drone strike kills dozen of children in pakistan? do they make the same kind of uproar? of course not, and that’s bothers me :P.
how am i cooking up an “us vs them” debate? that certainly wasn’t my intention.
yes, reap what you sow. the u.s “war against terror” is really a war against muslims, and they know that. i’m not saying that’s what motivated it, but you have to take that into account. we shall see.
yes, i realized that’s a generalization. i just figured if the liberal mr grump thinks that way, then it would be logical to suspect that most americans do as well? obviously not all.
of course you could be concerned about both. it’s just how they disproportionately report on american tragedies and make them worse than they really are. 3 people died and hundred were hurt, horrible. but how about when a drone strike kills dozen of children in pakistan? do they make the same kind of uproar? of course not, and that’s bothers me :P.
how am i cooking up an “us vs them” debate? that certainly wasn’t my intention.
yes, reap what you sow. the u.s “war against terror” is really a war against muslims, and they know that. i’m not saying that’s what motivated it, but you have to take that into account. we shall see.
So, you’re aware that it’s not logical to assume that the opinion of one represents that of an entire country?
Point is of course they’re going to focus more on something like that that happens in their own country. Just like most every country would. This is nothing new and is not unique to the U.S.
It bothers me too when innocent people are killed by drone attacks. But what difference would it make if it didn’t bother me at all? What do your hurt feelings do to fix the problem or even confront it? It’s really easy to point your finger and act as if you’re more aware and empathetic to tragedies in foreign countries.
By bringing up how shitty America is and how ignorant Americans supposedly are and then in another thread stating how better off Canada is. It’s ridiculous and accomplishes nothing. It just creates an unnecessary divide.
How are those people responsible for what you believe is the “war on terror”? They have nothing to do with it. And assuming this was a response to the supposed “war on terror” being a war on Muslims (which I disagree with), how is it a logical one? How is it logical for a Muslim to commit a terrorist act by bombing a crowd of people at a marathon because they’re upset over a “war on terror” that generalizes Muslims and assumes they’re terrorists? That would pretty much validate what it is they’d be against and only give it more leverage.
I think - and I’m sure he’ll have no reservations about correcting me if I’m wrong - that he means that when tragedy hits any country their people are their main concern. It’s completely logical and understandable.
completely my point
“Reap what you sow”? Those people had nothing to do with America’s foreign policy. So, that’s a bullshit excuse for trying to justify the actions of two assholes who bombed a marathon.
Not really. Those people represent (in a terrorists mind anyway, I would think) the majority of Americans who voted in the person that made the bad foreign policy or refused/didn’t to change the foreign policy. They are part of the problem.
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It was a friggin’ public sports event which is celebrated by the community and the country as a whole (and for the world of running, the rest of the world as well). Also, this was perpetrated by AMERICANS who CHOSE to be US Citizens. They killed innocent men women and children and many bystanders, caused millions in damage and cost of public resources and put a community and a nation on edge.
To say this is a case of us “reaping what we sowed” makes no sense and sounds to me like the idiotic ramblings of a clueless commie who has nothing of value to actually say so thinks he’s proving himself intellectual by JUSTIFYING mass murder.
If you are an apologist for terrorists and think that “karma is a bitch” (sorry, 8 year old boy, the US shouldn’t have gone to Iraq, eat some shrapnel, Kid!) or some other simple-minded fortune cookie explanation is acceptable for these situations I really don’t have much else to say about the topic. It makes about as much sense as me kicking your grandmother in the face because I got served tainted Canadian bacon at Denny’s.
I don’t think it’s exactly like that, but I get it.
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[reply]american lives aren’t worth more than any other human life, and yet the media acts like it does.
Ummmm, here in america, american lives most definitely are worth more.
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Two bombs went off in the most powerful country in the world. People died, plenty injured. How in the hell wouldn’t that get mass coverage dude? Especially after the whole 9-11 thing, I think peaple are on edge.
American lives aren’t worth more nor less than anyone else. But being an American you’re under the microscope.
It makes about as much sense as me kicking your grandmother in the face because I got served tainted Canadian bacon at Denny’s.
Or whenever something terrible happens in Canada I blame it on the fact that they spawned Rush, Celine Dion, Nickelback, and Alanis Morrisette.
“Uh, maybe you sheeple wouldn’t have been bombed if the songs ‘Tom Sawyer’ and ‘You Oughta Know’ had never been released. You reap what you sow!”
[reply]It makes about as much sense as me kicking your grandmother in the face because I got served tainted Canadian bacon at Denny’s.
Or whenever something terrible happens in Canada I blame it on the fact that they spawned Rush, Celine Dion, Nickelback, and Alanis Morrisette.
“Uh, maybe you sheeple wouldn’t have been bombed if the songs ‘Tom Sawyer’ and ‘You Oughta Know’ had never been released. You reap what you sow!”[/reply]
You had me at Celine Dion…
This is not directed at anyone in particular but it’s one of my pet peeves when people talk about how “the world hates Americans”. In my experience, the people that say this almost never have actually even traveled. I have traveled. A lot. In the last 7 years I’ve spent typically 1/4-1/3 of my time outside of the US. I think at last count I’d been to 27 different countries and I stay for a week or two at a time. I work with the locals, I dine with them, I hang out with them. And in many of those countries (especially the Middle East) I am dealing with just as many people from OTHER countries (other expats from non-US countries).
With the exception of two separate drunken idiots (one in Norway and one in Indonesia) I’ve never had any hostility, disrespect, or denigration cast at me. Quite to the contrary, they are happy to meet me, interested in my country, and often eager to discuss politics and world events too.
With very few exceptions, these overseas colleagues and comrades are smart enough to distinguish the difference between people and government, between policy and individuals, between citizens and leaders, and between yahoo radical dickheads and average Americans, and I respect that of them and appreciate it.
Overseas Muslims are also very self-aware. They are cognizant of the jackasses that take horrific actions in the name of Islam or Allah and they hate that it reflects back on them in the minds of some people.
The world is full of retards, hillbillies, and assholes. This is not an American problem. It is a human problem. But I am always encouraged that in all of my travels I repeatedly see that people as a whole are above all that bullcrap. People all basically want the same thing. They want safety and security for themselves and their families. They want to be able to worship or not worship whatever deity or deities they may happen to believe in. And they want the freedom to pursue a bit of economic opportunity so they can feed themselves and their family and have a little pocket coin.
There are certainly exceptions to the above (every time something goes boom or some butthole draws a swastika on someone’s garage is proof). But anyone that tells you that such exceptions are representative of anything but their stupid little subgroups of backwards idiots needs to pull his or her head out from his or her rectum, get out, and see the world a bit.
I have to agree with Gunnar on this one.
In all my travels (somewhere around 15 countries and 34 of the 50 states), the only place I ever experienced anything even remotely anti-American was in Mexico 1996. I was in the non-tourist part of Cancun and a shopkeeper was being very very sarcastic in Spanish.
During a 1994 trip to Washington D.C., we were in a large park with thousands of people and it is the only place I have ever feared for my personal safety when on a trip.
honestly, i couldn’t fucking care less about the boston bombings. yes, it’s horrible that people were killed. my heart goes out to the victims and their families .
This is one of those times when you should really check back over what you’ve written, not because of any insensitivity but because there is a blatant contradiction in what you said.