We got any fans on here? No I’m not talking about that guy from mtv. This is a noise rock band from the 80’s that I recently got into. Been listening to the album Atomizer. Great stuff!
Great stuff indeed.
If you haven’t already, you should check out Rapeman, which is Steve Albini’s band after Big Black, but before Shellac, and has the drummer from Scratch Acid in it, who happens to be mr. Rey Washam, of Filth Pig and DSOTS fame.
Yeah I’m a big fan.
A big influence on the sound of The Land of Rape and Honey.
Big Black kicks ass, as does most of Albini’s projects. They did a one-time reunion show for Touch and Go records reunion party several years ago, unfortunately I was living too far away from Chicago at the time to go ;(
His latest band Shellac tours from time to time, usually smaller tours, but if you get the chance go, they are great live, better than their recorded material IMO.
I’ve read alot of books with Steve allway’s taliking smack about ministry (both chicago bands) when Al was going from WS sound to Twitch/lorah sound Steve had a 'zine and would call Al a pussy etc. basically. Then i read something were Al basically choked him out around '87 backstage theres lots of info on it you should google it
Listen to Racer X and you’ll fast figure out what Al thought of Albini around 87.
His latest band Shellac tours from time to time, usually smaller tours, but if you get the chance go, they are great live, better than their recorded material IMO.
I agree, Shellac is much better live than recorded, well worth seeing when they play out!
For me it’s a tie between At Action Park and Songs About Fucking for the most consistent Albini album. The songs on AAC seem tighter constructed than most of what would follow. The other three albums have some memorable moments with other songs that border on jams and sketches (intentional but these guys have a penchant for writing hookier stuff too). Would give fingers and toes to see Shellac live.
You know i actually listened to the racer x song was albini pissed that al&paul worked with ian fugazi before him? that was the quote by the way “If he makes (pailhead) 1/10 as pussified as ministry (WS/cold life only releases at the time) I’m going to kick his fucking ass myself” I’m quite the fan of his production work though and i guess Paul healed those wounds by doing the ‘Gub’ record or was that when the fight happened?or was it that paul was cool with him and that’s how Rey got the drum job after bill can’t remember all that old gossip! I wonder who would win in a fight Steve or Paul that would be a good one!
I couldnt find anything on the altercation between Steve and Al
I think i read that stuff in that amercan hardcore book which ever had the butthole surfers story in it (the best in the book btw mention blixa b. kicking naked drunk gibby in the balls on stage) and the other stuff in various ministry interviews Chris C. might be the one to ask as he was around for ‘gub’ with paul and steve
We got any fans on here? No I’m not talking about that guy from mtv. This is a noise rock band from the 80’s that I recently got into. Been listening to the album Atomizer. Great stuff!
Atomizer fucking rocks. Favorite track on that is Bad Houses, sounds so desolate.
I think i read that stuff in that amercan hardcore book which ever had the butthole surfers story in it (the best in the book btw mention blixa b. kicking naked drunk gibby in the balls on stage) and the other stuff in various ministry interviews Chris C. might be the one to ask as he was around for ‘gub’ with paul and steve
The book you’re thinking of is “Our Band Could Be Your Life” and the Albini quote (from the Big Black chapter) is:
“On the rumor that Al Jourgensen, the leader of a wimpy dance-pop unit called Ministry, might be producing a Chicago art-noise band, he wrote ‘If you do, and you make them one-tenth as wimpy as Ministry, I’ll cut your balls off and sew them shut in your mouth.’”
Stigmata “borrows” pretty heavily from Racer X. Not sure if they did it to screw with Albini or if they just decided to take the song and play with it, but it’s pretty obvious.
I think Al just pillaged songs he liked every now and again and altered them enough to make them into Ministry tracks, Racer X and Nightgoat being the stand out offenders. I still dig the Ministry versions but it’s hard to get past the similarities there.
was albini pissed that al&paul worked with ian fugazi before him?
Who is “Ian Fugazi”? You mean Ian MacKaye?
Late,
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Steve has taken several public pot-shots at Al over the years. Here’s one:
“Calling people like Don Fleming, Al Jourgensen, Lee Ranaldo or Jerry Harrison “producers” in the traditional sense is akin to calling Bernie a “shortstop” because he watched the whole playoffs this year.”
So yeah he definitely thinks Al is a hack. I don’t agree with him 100% though, Al undeniably has talent, if nothing else at getting good musicians together to work for him. Steve is kind of a curmudgeon too, he hates any kind of music that’s the least bit dance oriented. I still respect the guy, but I take what he has to say with a grain of salt.
Oh, the interview that quote was taken from can be found here: http://www.mercenary.com/probwitmusby.html. It’s called “The Problem with Music” and is a very interesting, quick read.
Albini is way overrated as a producer, IMO. But I’m not usually into lo-fi garage band-sounding stuff.
I’d rather hear a Luxa/Pan production any day.
Oh i see, you’re saying the drums are “borrowed” from racer x for stigmata. I don’t think so though i would say this one if ANY borrowing took place
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuBYmqK2w48 (captin)
and the gtr. riff in ‘stigmata’ is an old ac/dc riff and
honestly this is far more punk than anything big black or early ministry did IMO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=U5cfVheM8bo&feature=related
(one more time good sir!)