Bad trader alert

wow. it’s stories like this that remind me of the bullshitters out there.

I think I was PM’d by MaRi a long time ago but I don’t trade stuff or even care to download songs so I’m sure the conversation went nowhere. I’m really glad that neither of us had anything of value as I’m naturally paranoid and these types of psychos just creep me out.

Delete

Oh, well, Terminal Cheesecake . . .

Hahahaha! Seriously, that’s a band?

just for S&G’s I sent this idiot an updated list. here is the response:

"On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:39 PM, talena mogo <blackdeathlemonade@yahoo.com> wrote:
i cant open the file im getting freezing… ill admit to you did you know ( lars & Jane ) are really innocent the whole time? im working with a hidden facebook group that use to call themselves ( MUSIK FOR DA FANZ ) 30% of the users were offended or hurt by the ministry/prongs board that your on… & we just agreed that you too were part of the offending & maybe racial slurs as well

so they agreed to set up everybody who was part of the board & you i was told was part of that team as well of offending & racial marks to people so they all agreed to “SET YOU UP PLAN” what that is they buy your happiness & shoot you dead like the fake Rick did to Greg 4 people were heavily upset by what he has done.

trust me or not i too was offended on the prong board but ill admit it was not you but i agreed to help the gang out all because i wanted the shows myself but if you wanna released all those ministry shows well… the truth is THATS THE PLAN THE WHOLE TIME… this new facebook group mission is to released every single ministry show for the fans as their way of getting back on those make it hard for traders & whatever reason you may think of…

this account is a decoy & never was a real account to began with… i have seen your prong page & jane was a real innocent victim the whole time & you never did talk to her i may have proof that you never had why mention her for?

you released the same songs as the fake trade was made, again THAT’S THE PLAN im not playing here so you did something that made you happy of & i thank you for that… as for your japan shows ONLY 1 with me however i do know who really has them a total of 15 PERSONAL FRIENDS HAVE THEM but all 15 just have 1 its all the same show jane herself has the real 5 dates Rick does NOT HAVE THEM

jnwashere on that bootleg torrent was not even her that was Rick who made that, framing her because she wont release all 5 dates out just like roberts claiming he has nothing rare?
so any kind of ministry traders out right now are under the names of something like… i cant say but more are out seeking but more smarter this time
"

What?
That all makes no sense. The double secret facebook group are not happy and mad at you cause 30% of prongers or killing people for shows and jane and roger hate eachother real too mch?

here’s another one for your entertainment. apparently, ‘we’ are really big on precise percentage analysis, hahaha.

"On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Jane Nakashima <nakashimajane@yahoo.com> wrote:
i have never traded with you,but why would i even come back giving you the address to my place if i did or why even comeback with the same name for!? can you check your bad traders list again and you’ll see that im not in your list?

a person came to me on many sites i registered such as (livejournal,skype,traders den,and yes facebook that i met the traders using a certain bootleg trading group thats for them WITH HONEST TRADERS…and that your accusing me of being this person that suppose to send you something which is not me again that your accusing me of. i got your name from truesoundsoftheministry@yahoo he gave me your list and that goes for maybe 10 to 15 other traders saying you downgrade your audio and videos and cut songs out of the recordings
but understand im not that person can we prove to each other that were not what you think of me and what they say about you
ill even toss in 3 2015 ministry shows plus the private facebook group page that 49% of traders saying you to are a bad trader"

HAHHAHAHAHAHA!!! Damn!
There are some levels of crazy reached by this dude/broad/person/creature that I didn’t even know existed.

just for S&G’s I sent this idiot an updated list. here is the response:

"On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:39 PM, talena mogo <blackdeathlemonade@yahoo.com> wrote:
i cant open the file im getting freezing… ill admit to you did you know ( lars & Jane ) are really innocent the whole time? im working with a hidden facebook group that use to call themselves ( MUSIK FOR DA FANZ ) 30% of the users were offended or hurt by the ministry/prongs board that your on… & we just agreed that you too were part of the offending & maybe racial slurs as well

Torres, really needs to hire an editor, his second grade education makes it very hard to follow.

Which one of thief’s alias is replying? This clown just keeps trying to salvage nakashima and lars. The avalanche of lies and alias’ are astounding. I’m still positively stunned by the insanity of whole thing. If I didn’t have a family member gravely ill and wasn’t thinking straight, I probably wouldn’t have even bother replying to the clown in the first place.

When I get some time, I’m going to start posting everything I have to dime anyway. Nothing really is circulating and it’s time for the music to be freely available.

and another one, since these seem to entertain quite a bit [:)]

"On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 9:33 PM, rick tores <truesoundsoftheministry@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello, ive been to many & many websites that has bootleg trading and i was given an email by a couple of fellas that mention your name. to show proof of any sort is that you live in New York you did the Hamburg 1992 & you have a husband name TRENTON i believe?
2 guys saying your a great trader but 1 guy says that you cheated him out of 1982 Ministry misfits,he got cheated by 3 things
1.primental was missing
2. not in FLAC
3. it was coded to MP3 first then you made it into a WAV file
4.coldlifePC = you edit your audio more than mp3 coding

im not trying to bash you down but they both sent me your trade list & to make this story short i do care if its not in FLAC but ill take whatever i can just to make myself happy & good with what i have, he also mention to others that your not a good trader and stay away from you he said to me…
but i look at your list and damn i love your ( apex twin,interpol ,jesus & mary chain, Babes in toyland) but im not going to send all my list because its way out of date and i hardly got any new shows & what i have on me
but here is somewhat of my list right now. BTW im not really going to collect a huge load of bands anymore so really what you see is pretty much what i carry on me now.

but really hoping to trade however i know the rules you send first but after what he told me is it REALLY OK if we can do snail mail trade only & please trade at the same date?
i do not have the fastest uploading computer nor really spend money on any uploading sites ill probably just take your ministry shows for now. at the very bottom is my list but here is my interest on your ministry shows &
charmichales please i do hope we can trade like this…

YOUR LIST
CHARMICHAELS 1980/01/01 Demos Pre-Ministry Demos
MINISTRY 1983/01/01 83-84 Tape Demos and Outtakes
MINISTRY 1990/01/24 Houston, TX Numbers
08/28/92 St. Paul, MN - Harriet Island
11/25/92 Milwaukee, WI - Riverside Music Theatre
11/28/92 Chicago, IL - UIC Pavilion
07/11/99 Dour, Belgium - Dour Festival
08/08/99 Milwaukee, WI - Modjeska Theater
04/03/03 Denver, CO - Fillmore Auditorium
04/04/03 Albuquerque, NM - Sunshine Theatre
04/08/03 Houston, TX - Numbers
06/15/03 Nijmegen, Netherlands -Fields of Rock Festival
10/13/04 - Detroit, MI at St. Andrews Hall
10/16/04 - Worcester, MA @ Palladium
10/25/04 - Washington D.C., @ 9:30 Club
10/26/04 - Charlotte, NC @ Tremont Music Hall
12/02/04 - Guelph, ON @ Cub Denim
05/13/06 Ft Collins, CO - Aggie Theatre
05/31/03 Donnington,U.K. - Download Festival
MINISTRY 2003/02/24 Amsterdam Paradiso
12/15/88 - Boston, MA @ The Channel
10/07/04 - Minneapolis, MN @ Quest Club

MY LIST"

ill probably just take your ministry shows for now.

Im sure its in the right context too.

My PCs are always blowing up and my archival skills suck, but guess who got propositioned to some years back?

From user “almudeno69”…

hello,

I saw you in PRONG/MINISTRY forum

I like trading live video shows bootlegs of old noise rock/punk/industrial/garage/trash rock/gothic rock bands.

I’d like to ask you also if you have video shows to trade with me in VHS or DVD-r
(only shows filmed or transfered as VHS=DVD-r,nothing downloaded from internet in video)

I have rare video shows of bands like REVOLTING COCKS,MINISTRY,TERMINAL CHEESECAKE,FLIPPER,TEST DEPT,BOREDOMS,SAVAGE REPUBLIC,SPK,GG ALLIN,EINSTURZENDE NEUBAUTEN,COWS,DISTORTED PONY,THROBBING GRISTLE,SPK,SWANS,BIG BLACK,RAPEMAN,CHROME,LAUGHING HYENAS,SCIENTISTS,BIRTHDAY PARTY,COP SHOOT COP,NICK CAVE,LUBRICATED GOAT,ROWLAND S HOWARD&more

my partial list of shows in txt at http://almudeno69.angelfire.com

Write me if you have some and we can do a trade in VHS or DVD-r(prefer)

I have about 1400 rare video shows uncirculated

Greetings.

A.

Fuck this person/persons.

I saw that MUSIK FOR DA FANS site on FB at one point. I think some jackass added me to it and then I blocked it. I’ll try and see if it still is around.

That’s actually a legit guy.

My PCs are always blowing up and my archival skills suck, but guess who got propositioned to some years back?

From user “almudeno69”…

hello,

I saw you in PRONG/MINISTRY forum

I like trading live video shows bootlegs of old noise rock/punk/industrial/garage/trash rock/gothic rock bands.

I’d like to ask you also if you have video shows to trade with me in VHS or DVD-r
(only shows filmed or transfered as VHS=DVD-r,nothing downloaded from internet in video)

I have rare video shows of bands like REVOLTING COCKS,MINISTRY,TERMINAL CHEESECAKE,FLIPPER,TEST DEPT,BOREDOMS,SAVAGE REPUBLIC,SPK,GG ALLIN,EINSTURZENDE NEUBAUTEN,COWS,DISTORTED PONY,THROBBING GRISTLE,SPK,SWANS,BIG BLACK,RAPEMAN,CHROME,LAUGHING HYENAS,SCIENTISTS,BIRTHDAY PARTY,COP SHOOT COP,NICK CAVE,LUBRICATED GOAT,ROWLAND S HOWARD&more

my partial list of shows in txt at http://almudeno69.angelfire.com

Write me if you have some and we can do a trade in VHS or DVD-r(prefer)

I have about 1400 rare video shows uncirculated

Greetings.

A.

Fuck this person/persons.