Al Jourgensen hospitalised in France

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_salad
Ahh, you been reading your psychology college books and trying to share what we already have learned. All you know how to do is kiss ass.

Karma is a Mother fucker…all that negative energy coming right back at grandpa Al. Wow, how will it end?? Gonna go read up on the good ole Eightfold path again [laugh]

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Ahh, you been reading your psychology college books and trying to share what we already have learned. All you know how to do is kiss ass.[/reply]

Yes, as you’ve pointed out twice for some reason, I picked up that phrase in a psychology textbook in college. How shameful of me to have learned something at a learning institution.

Now, let’s see if you can figure out why I posted it.

aww SNAPS THIS IS SOME REAL SHIT RIGHT HERE

This has nothing to do with youth. He needs a fresh start. Ministry died when he married her, now he’s dying. You are not going to save him, nor make horrible videos for him either Gunnar. Your dream is ov’a

I never said it had anything to do with youth. You spied a random cutie (that looks like Geddy Lee?) whom you know NOTHING about and decided that Al should leave his wife for her. You claim Al needs to be saved from his wife.

Well, let’s now take the hypothetical case of a struggling bass player who got cut from the team and whose PR department now consists of a complete raving lunatic of a wife who goes online screaming hate and filth at her betters. One could say that this hypothetical bass player would be much better off without that giant boat anchor pulling him to the bottom of the sea.

Can you see that? Or would you like to go back to spewing non-sequitors and tossing salads?

I’m just sayin . . .

Yes, as you’ve pointed out twice for some reason, I picked up that phrase in a psychology textbook in college. How shameful of me to have learned something at a learning institution.

A book that was published, no less. Not one caught in an endless writing limbo.

I heard even Sherman from the Jeffersons is a bigger deal, more well known.

Thank you for pointing out the obvious. Anyone that thinks a cult “underground” band (I think they eventually got Gold status for Psalm69, but other than that . . . please) is somehow going to be more famous and culturally relevant than a HUGE HIT television series that was broadcast weekly to MILLIONS of viewers and put into syndication so that millions more can continue watching it until the end of time . . . is INSANE.

Bye, Ministry, we might never know who was the genius and brains behind the music.

Yes, we’ve heard the story again and again. Paul was Ministry. He did it all. He’s a genius. While I believe that both Al and Paul are weaker apart than together, Al has actually sold albums, produced bands, and toured successfully (no, we’re not talking about Psalm-era success here).

What has Paul done? Sold some 7"s to Grumpysmurf? And just as importantly, what are YOU doing to help Paul achieve his potential?

You may not like Al or Angie (fairly obvious). Okey doke. Wouldn’t a better comeback be showing some success of your own and your husband’s instead of crying like a baby that had her toys taken away.

Paul and Al broke up 8 years ago. Either your husband has gotten over it or he’s at least got enough class not to throw tantrums over it. How about you?

Just grow up. Your posts are nauseating.

Anyone that thinks a cult “underground” band (I think they eventually got Gold status for Psalm69, but other than that . . . please)

LoRaH and Mind both went gold in the US, Psalm 69 went platinum in the US and gold in Australia and Canada.

Al’s state of affairs is atrocious. This thread, however, just keeps getting more awesome…

No,I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say he read it on Wikipedia…

Also should probably note it took 12 years for LoRaH to hit gold, and 6 years for Mind. Psalm 69 hit gold in about 6 months and platinum in about three and a half years

http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?table=SEARCH_RESULTS&artist=Ministry&go=Search&perPage=50

You can see just how insecure Al is at this point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE8WXLcrFe4&feature=player_detailpage#t=262s he has to shake his hair down like a teenage girl trying to pose.

He seems to be regressing (or has regressed) back to a juvenile stage and it’ll probably get worse. I guess this is what happens to old timers when they’re near their end. The sad thing for him, as a human being, is that he has no one to pull him out of that crap he has around him so he’s doomed. But then again I don’t think he deserves to be “rescued”. You get your shot (or in Al’s case, many shots) and if you fuck up and piss a load of people off and wreck a band that was once a powerhouse, you get what you get.

If he survives, fair fucks to him. He escapes once again. If not there’s no point in bullshitting in his eulogy.

link isn’t working. can you explain what was going on in the video?

Paul may not be as prolific as Al, but his music is obscenely better. i actually really love the FIX THIS!!! ep. better than anything ministry as put out since dark side of the spoon, fo sho.

[reply]You can see just how insecure Al is at this point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE8WXLcrFe4&feature=player_detailpage#t=262s he has to shake his hair down like a teenage girl trying to pose.

He seems to be regressing (or has regressed) back to a juvenile stage and it’ll probably get worse. I guess this is what happens to old timers when they’re near their end. The sad thing for him, as a human being, is that he has no one to pull him out of that crap he has around him so he’s doomed. But then again I don’t think he deserves to be “rescued”. You get your shot (or in Al’s case, many shots) and if you fuck up and piss a load of people off and wreck a band that was once a powerhouse, you get what you get.

If he survives, fair fucks to him. He escapes once again. If not there’s no point in bullshitting in his eulogy.

link isn’t working. can you explain what was going on in the video?

Paul may not be as prolific as Al, but his music is obscenely better. i actually really love the FIX THIS!!! ep. better than anything ministry as put out since dark side of the spoon, fo sho.[/reply]

Lord, whoever put the video up has taken it down. No guesses as to why. The bit I highlighted in the vid was where a woman sits down beside Al to have their photo taken; Al moves in close to her and while they are waiting to have the photo taken he drops his head down so his dreads fall down in front of his face so he can look all cool and edgy. He does it in such a way that shows he’s very self conscious about his appearance, despite the fact that he looks like the walking dead.

Al looked (but likely didn’t feel) his best in 1999

Al moves in close to her and while they are waiting to have the photo taken he drops his head down so his dreads fall down in front of his face so he can look all cool and edgy.

The closeup on those dreads is absolutely horrifying. They look like they’ve not been cleaned in about 20 years. It looked like clumps of lint and hair taken from the dryer trap and then clipped onto his doo rag. Seriously gnarly.

Most of us who’ve seen and discussed the video will likely be assuming that the poster was pressured to take the vid down as the water cooler talk amongst the fans focused a lot on the fact that this was the day of the concert where he fell victim to “heat exhaustion”. The vague claim of “alcohol blood levels below normal” (whatever that was supposed to mean) are kind of scrutinized when it is painfully apparent that Al (I’m guessing this was BEFORE the show) was completely TANKED. Angie, subsequently, has come under close scrutiny as she seems to be luring Al back into the bus with booze and cigarettes, the same way I would get a feral rat or possum to come out from behind my sofa by putting some cheese in front of its face.

The video did NOT paint a good picture of either Al or Angie and in the midst of a PR nightmare that was already going to be put under a microscope . . . . it didn’t do them any favors.

On the upside, though, there was some great closeup footage of Scaccia was tearin’ it up on stage.

A book that was published, no less. Not one caught in an endless writing limbo.

Nice one.
Also, I think you’re supposed to make air quotes when saying the word “writing”.

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A book that was published, no less. Not one caught in an endless writing limbo.

Nice one.
Also, I think you’re supposed to make air quotes when saying the word “writing”.[/reply]

No way. Yo are the one stalking Al hoping to ride his coat tails and he’s going to have you direct his next video. You are just as fake and ass kissery as someone trying to get their foot in the door, Gunnar. Have some self-love and don’t degrade yourself for noone like you been doing.

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Al moves in close to her and while they are waiting to have the photo taken he drops his head down so his dreads fall down in front of his face so he can look all cool and edgy.

The closeup on those dreads is absolutely horrifying. They look like they’ve not been cleaned in about 20 years. It looked like clumps of lint and hair taken from the dryer trap and then clipped onto his doo rag. Seriously gnarly.

Most of us who’ve seen and discussed the video will likely be assuming that the poster was pressured to take the vid down as the water cooler talk amongst the fans focused a lot on the fact that this was the day of the concert where he fell victim to “heat exhaustion”. The vague claim of “alcohol blood levels below normal” (whatever that was supposed to mean) are kind of scrutinized when it is painfully apparent that Al (I’m guessing this was BEFORE the show) was completely TANKED. Angie, subsequently, has come under close scrutiny as she seems to be luring Al back into the bus with booze and cigarettes, the same way I would get a feral rat or possum to come out from behind my sofa by putting some cheese in front of its face.

The video did NOT paint a good picture of either Al or Angie and in the midst of a PR nightmare that was already going to be put under a microscope . . . . it didn’t do them any favors.

On the upside, though, there was some great closeup footage of Scaccia was tearin’ it up on stage.[/reply]

You are so fucking superficial talking about his hair. Al is dying, and all you can talk about his shampoo. You are a backstabber, hoping to get your big break like the pest that is killing him with the same stuff his doctors warned him against. It all came true, even before you knew it. Al has become an invalid with Angie as a crutch. If you love Al you take him in with no hopes of getting anything in return you leach.

No way. Yo are the one stalking Al hoping to ride his coat tails and he’s going to have you direct his next video. You are just as fake and ass kissery as someone trying to get their foot in the door, Gunnar. Have some self-love and don’t degrade yourself for noone like you been doing.

He’s gonna have me direct his next video?
AWESOME!!!

It will certainly be better than that “99 Percenters” crap. I’m gonna need someone to make sandwiches for the crew, though. Are you available? HAHAHAHAHA!!! What am I saying? Of course you are. I just hope you can figure out the complex mechanics of putting cheese and turkey between two pieces of bread.

You are so fucking superficial talking about his hair. Al is dying, and all you can talk about his shampoo.

If you think the dreads Al wears on stage are his real hair you’re even stupider than we thought.

If you love Al you take him in with no hopes of getting anything in return you leach.

Yeah, I really don’t love Al THAT much. Besides, I have to keep my spare bedroom available as a shelter for abused bassplayers. I’m waiting for a knock on my door when some poor soul is scared for his life because of his raving lunatic wife.

Get off the 'net and back on your meds, you psychotic geezer!

Get off the 'net and back on your meds, you psychotic geezer!

I sincerely hope you’re not talking to me. Cause I’m still taking my meds. [:(]

Any bets on how long Gerda gets taken to the woodshed by Gunnar before she gives up and creates a new screen name? I’ll say a week, tops.