A Serbian Film (Uncensored Edtion)

As I mentioned, the feeling of dread with this film that I get is likely largely a fabrication in my mind resulting from all the reading I’ve done and conversations I’ve had.

I just find the whole film to have this horrific aura of sickness and evil around it that I’m completely on edge as soon as I start to watch any of it or even watch a trailer.

I’ve seen a bootleg dvd of the uncensored version. And yes, it most certainly does have that “horrific aura of sickness and evil around it” that you described. I still to this day can’t understand how they got away with that shit - especially the decapitation / fellatio scene.

And I’m usually impervious to toture porn.

[blush]

I can’t imagine having to actually WATCH all of this, but I gotta admit the “plot summary” from Wiki is so ridiculously over the top and obscene that it’s really comical in its disgustingness. Then I remember that this is actually describing an ACTUAL movie that someone actually made and some people actually watch . . . and not just some cheeseball GWAR video or a ridiculous Japanese porno cartoon.

Seriously . . . . does this not read like someone telling the “Aristocrats” joke?

[i]"Miloš is a semi-retired porn star, who lives with his wife, Marija, and six-year-old son, Petar. His brother, Marko, is a corrupt police officer, who is attracted to Marija. Marija is curious about her husband’s past and is concerned about the family’s income. Lejla, a former co-star, offers Miloš a starring role in an art film directed by Vukmir, an independent pornographer, who wishes to cast Miloš for his powerful erection. Having already caught Petar watching one of his films and unaware of the details of Vukmir’s film, Miloš is hesitant to participate and continue his career, but accepts to secure his family’s financial future. While meeting Vukmir, Miloš passes a bald man and his entourage, regarding them warily.

Shooting begins at an orphanage, where Vukmir feeds Miloš instructions through an earpiece given by Vukmir’s driver, Raša, while a film crew follows him. Miloš sees young girl Jeca physically abused and scolded by her mother, who has disgraced her deceased war hero husband’s memory by becoming a whore. In a dark room, screens show Jeca seductively eating an ice pop, while Miloš is fellated by a nurse. Then, Miloš is instructed to receive it from the mother, while Jeca watches. Miloš refuses, but is forced to continue. Marko later informs him that Vukmir is a former psychologist and has worked in children’s TV and state security. Vukmir meets a hesitant Miloš afterward to explain his artistic style, showing a film of a woman giving birth to a newborn, which is immediately raped by Raša, in what the director terms “newborn porn”. The horrified Miloš storms out and drives away. At a road junction, he is approached and seduced by Vukmir’s female doctor.

A bloodied Miloš wakes up in his bed some time later with no memory of what has happened. He returns to the now abandoned set and finds a number of tapes. Viewing them, Miloš discovers that he was drugged to induce an aggressive, sexually aroused, and suggestible state. At Vukmir’s manipulative direction, Miloš beats and rapes Jeca’s mother before decapitating her to induce rigor mortis and, later, a catatonic Miloš is sodomized by Vukmir’s security. He then watches footage of Lejla voicing concern for Miloš, only to be restrained as her teeth are removed. A masked man then enters the room and suffocates her during fellatio. The footage continues as Miloš is led to Jeca’s home, where an elderly woman praises him for killing her mother and offers Jeca as a “virgin commune”. Miloš refuses and escapes through a window to an alleyway, where he watches a girl pass by as she is being pursued by a pair of thugs. He begins masturbating and is assaulted by the thugs before they are killed by Raša, who then takes Miloš back to a warehouse with Vukmir.

At the warehouse, Vukmir’s doctor administers more drugs after which Miloš overpowers her, sticking the syringe into her throat. He is then taken into a room to have intercourse with two hidden comatose bodies under a sheet. As Miloš is guided onto one body, the masked man from Lejla’s movie enters and begins raping the other. Vukmir then reveals the masked man to be Marko, his victim to be Marija and finally, that Miloš is raping Petar. An enraged Miloš lunges at Vukmir and smashes his head against the floor, initiating a brawl during which Marija bludgeons Marko to death with a sculpture. Miloš wrestles a gun from a guard and shoots all, but the one-eyed Raša, who he kills by sticking his erect penis into his empty eye socket. A dying Vukmir praises Miloš’ actions as truly worthy of film.

Miloš, having recalled his actions, including locking his wife and son in their basement before passing out earlier, returns home to find them. He and his wife come to a mutual understanding that he, his wife, and his child, should die together, so the three gather in bed and embrace before Miloš fires a fatal shot through himself, Petar, and Marija. Sometime later a new film crew, including the bald man from earlier, enters the bedroom. One of the security guards begins to unzip his pants and the director (the unknown bald man) advises him to “start with the little one”.
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What do we call it?

We’ll call it . . . .

THE ARISTOCRATS!!!

All you watched was the little boy on the couch watching a porn his dad was in before his parents walked in and turned it off.
you wouldn’t make it through Salo, either. that shit would haunt you for weeks.

the intent of the discomfort in Salo is VERY different to that of ASF.

Salo (which is based on the ‘novel’/partial manuscript ‘120 Days In Sodom’ by the great and horrible Sade) was intended as an artful horror show as a decrying of nobility, clergy, aristocracy, and social greed. the terrors unveiled within that movie are at no time actually sanctified, or even done in righteous anger, they are done out of decadent depravity. we are supposed to not just hate (or any other such crass feeling) the four monsters in charge of the circus, but to detest their positions and their fallacious and supposed ‘superiority’ over the ‘normal’ man.

that all makes the disgusting elements of the film easier to digest. they are building blocks of a larger social message. ASF however, doesnt seem to have so lofty of a social message. a large part of the film flaccidly attempts to be a commentary on pornography, but mostly just comes off as a celebration of debauchery. the movie never instills meaning to the revulsion. and that neo-nihilism REALLY paints the feeling that i think Guns is talking about.

so yeah, i think he could easily watch Salo, because it doesnt have such a flippant disregard for hope.

Damn y’all emo sissies. Gunnar, or anyone, how do I activate the subtitles on YouTube to watch A Serbian Film? It says subtitles but has none…

so yeah, i think he could easily watch Salo, because it doesn’t have such a flippant disregard for hope.

Are you serious? did we watch the same film? Salo “Doesn’t have a flippant disregard for hope”?
Not one of those kids gets away. not one ounce of justice is exacted on the 4 libertines. There is absolutely nothing they/we can do against the “fallacious and supposed ‘superiority’ over the ‘normal’ man” that they have. If they want to sodomize us and then cut our tongues and genitals off on their way to killing us when they have grown bored of us there ain’t ain’t a damn thing we can to about it. Where exactly is the hope in all of that?

granted I only watched 20 minutes of a serbian film so I can’t really compare the two. but I know what Salo looks like and how it made me feel for days after watching it and a little boy watching a porn is tame compared to anything in Salo.
Late,
grmpysmrf

[reply]
Begotten

I LOVE THIS MOVIE.

a bunch of the films on your list are ones that i felt were actually quite GOOD as well as being shocking/strange/hard to watch.

i stand by my vicious hatred for Holy Mountain.

and where did you see, ‘Where The Dead Go To Die’?! i LOVE this movie, and i only have a hand full of friends who have even heard of it![/reply]

I got some weird red band copy of Where the Dead go to Die through some guy I do work with…really bizarre film…

Queer Bait’s list is pretty great. I’d like to add Funny Games to the menu of “unpleasant viewing experiences.”

Queer Bait’s list is pretty great. I’d like to add Funny Games to the menu of “unpleasant viewing experiences.”

Yeah,that’s a good call,Mqhanlon…big time psychological mind-fuck of a film…I always found it odd that Haneke did a re-make of his own film…you rarely see that…not sure what the purpose of that was as the original was quite effective…

The “plot summary” that I pasted for “Serbian Film” seems to indicate that there is a scene where the protagonist kills a man by ramming his rock-hard ding dong into the victim’s eye socket. I have never even heard mention of this part before.

Like, how effed up does a movie have to be for people to overlook or forget about a scene where a guy stabs a man through the skull and delivers a fatal death blow from his pecker?

Just sayin’ . . .

Damn y’all emo sissies. Gunnar, or anyone, how do I activate the subtitles on YouTube to watch A Serbian Film? It says subtitles but has none…

Mine had it. But, anyway, I think there’s usually a little CC cox on the margin area right at the bottom of the player box screen area. Let me know if you have trouble as I can do a screen shot or something later . . .

I always found it odd that Haneke did a re-make of his own film…you rarely see that…not sure what the purpose of that was as the original was quite effective…

True, but at least the remake was still good (shot-for-shot remake, and well acted, it’s hard to fault it for anything other than being unnecessary). Someone else mentioned The Vanishing, which is excellent, but then George Sluizer remade it and totally fucked up his own movie.

[reply]Queer Bait’s list is pretty great. I’d like to add Funny Games to the menu of “unpleasant viewing experiences.”

Yeah,that’s a good call,Mqhanlon…big time psychological mind-fuck of a film…I always found it odd that Haneke did a re-make of his own film…you rarely see that…not sure what the purpose of that was as the original was quite effective…[/reply]

the remake was interesting, and really just as good as the original. Michael Pitt was AWESOME in the film, and that one scene where the mother stands up and tries to hop across the room… GAH…

loved Funny Games.

I have approximately zero interest in seeing this.

Maybe back when I was 16 years and looking for the next thrill to entertain my cheap little porno obsessed, thrash metal loving brain but certainly not now.

Yes I read the Wiki synopsis and just rolled my eyes.

And for the record it is completely and utterly incorrect to compare this to the masterpiece that is Salo. The two have nothing in common.

I’ll let you guess why on yr own.

[reply]I always found it odd that Haneke did a re-make of his own film…you rarely see that…not sure what the purpose of that was as the original was quite effective…

True, but at least the remake was still good (shot-for-shot remake, and well acted, it’s hard to fault it for anything other than being unnecessary). Someone else mentioned The Vanishing, which is excellent, but then George Sluizer remade it and totally fucked up his own movie.[/reply]

I never knew The Vanishing remake was by the same filmmaker as the original…is the remake the one with Jeff Bridges?

I found this pretty amusing little documentary last night while messing around on YouTube . . .

It’s about whether there is such a thing as “snuff” films . . .

It mentions a number of the films on Queer’s list too.

“Do Snuff Films Really Exist?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2p7i4oL6Dk

I found this pretty amusing little documentary last night while messing around on YouTube . . .

It’s about whether there is such a thing as “snuff” films . . .

It mentions a number of the films on Queer’s list too.

“Do Snuff Films Really Exist?”
[url “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2p7i4oL6Dk”]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2p7i4oL6Dk

Watched it…thanks!

I found this pretty amusing little documentary last night while messing around on YouTube . . .

It’s about whether there is such a thing as “snuff” films . . .

It mentions a number of the films on Queer’s list too.

“Do Snuff Films Really Exist?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2p7i4oL6Dk

Gonna check this out tonight…I’ve always figured there has to of at least been one made[:/]

[reply]I found this pretty amusing little documentary last night while messing around on YouTube . . .

It’s about whether there is such a thing as “snuff” films . . .

It mentions a number of the films on Queer’s list too.

“Do Snuff Films Really Exist?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2p7i4oL6Dk

Gonna check this out tonight…I’ve always figured there has to of at least been one made[:/][/reply]

Yeah, for instance those 3 Russian youngsters who filmed themselves murdering that guy, i think someone posted about it here before. Horrific stuff, and i only read about it, i didn’t watch the video.

It’s sadly easy to find actual video of people dying now. The “snuff film” is an outdated concept.

I saw someone being shot dead on the news the other day, i think it was in Central African Republic. Fucked up.