2012 Soundwave Festival Australia

Peligro · October 9, 2011, 11:03pm

So far the lineup includes:

SYSTEM OF A DOWN SLIPKNOT LIMP BIZKIT MARILYN MANSON HOLE A DAY TO REMEMBER MACHINE HEAD
LAMB OF GOD TRIVIUM ALTER BRIDGE
LOSTPROPHETS ANGELS & AIRWAVES COBRA STARSHIP
THE USED YOU ME AT SIX DEVIN TOWNSEND PROJECT
UNWRITTEN LAW COAL CHAMBER DASHBOARD CONFESSIONAL THURSDAY FOREVER THE SICKEST KIDS RAISED FIST DILLINGER ESCAPE PLAN ZAKK WYLDE’S BLACK LABEL SOCIETY MASTODON UNDEROATH SAVES THE DAY CIRCA SURVIVE STEEL PANTHER JACK’S MANNEQUIN MESHUGGAH ZEBRAHEAD
THE SISTERS OF MERCY ENTER SHIKARI FOUR YEAR STRONG BLACK VEIL BRIDES MADINA LAKE * HATEBREED BIOHAZARD TIMES OF GRACE CKY STREET DOGS DRAGONFORCE GOJIRA KVELERTAK LETLIVE HELLYEAH CRO-MAGS THE CAB RELIENT K VERSA EMERGE HEROES FOR HIRE KILL HANNAH CHIMAIRA THE DANGEROUS SUMMER FRAMING HANLEY WATAIN ROYAL REPUBLIC
I AM THE AVALANCHE TURISAS RIVER CITY EXTENSION

With the possible exception of Mastodon and Sisters Of Mercy, everything on that list screams “WHAT THE FUCK?!?!? IS THIS A JOKE?!?!?” in a voice so loud that one could hear it as far as Tasmania.

For whatever reason, decent music seems to have a low opinion of Australia. I look at the line-ups for other festivals overseas (like All Tomorrow’s Parties for instance) and think "Why? Why can’t we have something like that? What did we as a country do to piss off all these great acts? We seem to always get the bottom of the barrel scrapings.

The last good festival here in Melbourne was the What Is Music Festival at the Forum…and that was a massive flop.

Today I am embarrassed to be Australian. As if that could ever happen.

Toot · October 9, 2011, 11:10pm

My opinion of your musical tastes is so low, reading this rant makes me want to go even more (and try and drag you along).

Didn’t I read you liked the new Chili Peppers album? Seriously.

Peligro · October 9, 2011, 11:21pm

My opinion of your musical tastes is so low, reading this rant makes me want to go even more (and try and drag you along).

Didn’t I read you liked the new Chili Peppers album? Seriously.

This is coming from someone who LIKED Godflesh’s “albums horribilus” Us And Them and Songs Of Love And Hate…!!!

HA!! And you say I have bad taste?!

Yeah the new RHCP was “good” in the sense that it did not make me want to ram my head through a plate glass window like the last couple did.

So it was an improvement of sorts.

Toot · October 10, 2011, 12:01am

Wrong Toot.

Eureka_Pile · October 10, 2011, 1:21am

Don’t mind him Toot. In the end, he’s the one who’s the fag for considering Cradle Of Filth to be Black Metal. Btw I hear the Sisters suck live.

zick · October 10, 2011, 3:24am

Australia’s two main cultural exports at the moment are Neighbours and Home and Away…

On that basis the line up makes perfect sense to me.

Peligro · October 10, 2011, 3:37am

In the end, he’s the one who’s the fag for considering Cradle Of Filth to be Black Metal.

That was Gunnar.

Peligro · October 10, 2011, 3:38am

<sits and waits patiently for Peligro to stop using these fucking arrow things to indicate an action he is performing>

Toot · October 10, 2011, 3:39am

rev_skarekroe · October 10, 2011, 7:36am

Lord_of_lard · October 10, 2011, 9:10am

Akbar_The_Great · October 10, 2011, 9:18am

Don’t mind him Toot. In the end, he’s the one who’s the fag for considering Cradle Of Filth to be Black Metal.

I back Peligro up 100% for considering Cradle Of Filth Black Metal. They did for Black Metal what NIN did for Industrial Metal.

Godflesh SOLAH kicks major ass…crank Gift From Heaven or Hunter or Frail or Time Death & Wastefulness and it becomes apparent immediately that they RULE the Godflesh catalogue!!! Warm, phatt or organic…that is why SOLAH is number 1 for me when it comes to Godflesh. It is their Filth Pig. As for Us & Them…it’s cold and minus a real drummer…regardless it still has a few pearlers up its sleeve.

RHCP are sissy.

Wasn’t Melvins on the bill for this festival last year???

Toot · October 10, 2011, 5:01pm

Yeah Melvins played.

Olsen · October 10, 2011, 5:09pm

Godflesh SOLAH kicks major ass…crank Gift From Heaven or Hunter or Frail or Time Death & Wastefulness and it becomes apparent immediately that they RULE the Godflesh catalogue!!! Warm, phatt or organic…that is why SOLAH is number 1 for me when it comes to Godflesh. It is their Filth Pig. As for Us & Them…it’s cold and minus a real drummer…regardless it still has a few pearlers up its sleeve.

Songs Of Love And Hate is decent (but only just - it can’t hold even a candle to their earlier works), however Us And Them is a steaming turd with little redeeming qualities.

Agree with Peligro 100% - these “alternative” festivals in Australia keep getting worse and worse. Either that or the kids down here these days have shit taste in music.

Also, I do believe that Peligro was the one who was dumping on Cradle Of Filth in the first place.

RHCP are sissy.

I think the general consensus was that they were a once great band who took the high road to commerical success and started developing major suckage in their old age. I have no problem with their 80’s output.

Gunnar · October 10, 2011, 5:26pm

When the most exciting thing for me in a 3 day festival is an over-the-hill Limp Bizkit, I’m thinking drinking bleach and jumping in front of trains would make for a better weekend adventure.

Eureka_Pile · October 10, 2011, 6:43pm

I back Peligro up 100% for considering Cradle Of Filth Black Metal. They did for Black Metal what NIN did for Industrial Metal.

That doesn’t make them BM. Sure they were influenced by it and even toured with Emperor early in their career, but they aren’t BM. Wearing black leather, spikes and face paint/makeup doesn’t make you BM. There’s a certain atmosphere that makes BM what it is. Trent has far more credibility to be called Industrial than COF does to be BM. And Trent had nothing to do with Industrial Metal. The ones who brought that to the masses was Ministry. Godflesh also has more to do with Industrial Metal than NIN. One last thing on COF, Dani Filth even said it himself that they aren’t BM. Now chop a line of that and snort it buddy.

Godflesh SOLAH kicks major ass…crank Gift From Heaven or Hunter or Frail or Time Death & Wastefulness and it becomes apparent immediately that they RULE the Godflesh catalogue!!! Warm, phatt or organic…that is why SOLAH is number 1 for me when it comes to Godflesh. It is their Filth Pig. As for Us & Them…it’s cold and minus a real drummer…regardless it still has a few pearlers up its sleeve.

But here’s where I agree with you. I’d say this was their best album since Streetcleaner. I don’t remember being all that into Pure, and I was highly disappointed with Selfless. Both albums each had at least one song that I liked but neither was a good album from start to finish. The first 4 tracks on SOLAH are worth it alone. Angel Domain and Frail are also great highlights (especially the latter). As for Us & Them, it had it’s share of filler, but the 2nd half of the album really kicks ass. Bittersweet is by far the best track off that whole album. Surprises me that it wasn’t featured on In All Languages.

Gunnar · October 10, 2011, 6:51pm

earing black leather, spikes and face paint/makeup doesn’t make you BM.

It certainly helps, though.

Piko · October 10, 2011, 8:51pm

NIN is just as much industrial as Twitch is. But Ministry was the one who really helped put it out there. And when it comes to COF, they started as a BM band, then distanced themselves from it. Vempire and Principle of Evil Made Flesh are probably the only two I’d consider BM though.

Evil_Dildo · October 10, 2011, 9:25pm

Agree with Peligro 100% - these “alternative” festivals in Australia keep getting worse and worse. Either that or the kids down here these days have shit taste in music.

That line up was fucking hilarious. Purely because it would’ve sold like hotcakes 4-5 years ago. Yet another AJ Maddah fiasco in the making.

I gotta disagree with you Peligro on one thing, though. I’ve never really had a boner for Mastodon, though I have heard nothing from Sisters of Mercy. If I was to even consider going, it’d be purely to see Watain.

Seriously. They fucking rule.

As for Olsen’s comment about the kids being fucked, you need only refer to the decline of JJJ. Complete and utter fucking shit abounds on that station, and has for over a decade now.

Reminds me of why I have very few friends who are <24 yrs of age.

No point fighting it. Nothing can be done. 'tis best to ignore it and let everyone fuck themselves, I figure. I really don’t know if it’s much better overseas. Note the fact that there are NO Aussie bands on this line up.

They did for Black Metal what NIN did for Industrial Metal.

Akbar, I have to disagree with you there. All CoF did was ride the coattails of a genre/movement/style/whatever and plunder it aesthetically while in fact making music that isn’t black metal in any sense. And getting all the cred, to boot. At least early NIN had it’s moments where it was pretty true to the industrial sound and tipped its hat to it’s predecessors and influences.

The funniest story I heard about them involved them coming to Sydney and doing a show. They made no secret of the fact that they hated Sadistik Exekution for talking a bunch of shit about them. Kriss Hades was at the show, and got talking with them. They didn’t realise who Kriss was and he told them he could ‘find Kriss, and they could beat the fuck out of them’. He basically led them on a wild goose chase for the rest of the evening, but that being said, when his cover was blown they were good enough to laugh about it.

Oh, and while we’re on the topic of Australian live music;

I’m actually glad soundwave is happening. Because it’ll enable me to better filter out the friends from my life who eagerly ask me ‘are you going to Soundwave, MAAAAN?’.

Olsen · October 10, 2011, 10:02pm

But here’s where I agree with you. I’d say this was their best album since Streetcleaner. I don’t remember being all that into Pure, and I was highly disappointed with Selfless. Both albums each had at least one song that I liked but neither was a good album from start to finish. The first 4 tracks on SOLAH are worth it alone. Angel Domain and Frail are also great highlights (especially the latter). .

No. Well, I’m not saying that you are wrong - because if the album connects with you, then so be it. But SOLAH was nothing compared to Pure and Streetcleaner. SOLAH came off as a band desperately trying trying to reinvent itself. More like an up and coming band than an established act. The hip hop beats and growled, “tough guy” vocals completely ruin it for me. Before SOLAH, Godflesh’s music was cold, dissonant and mechanical. The perfect grey music for a cold grey day. SOLAH tried to turn the tables on that and went for a distorted, groove oriented sound. And while it wasn’t terrible by any means…it just wasn’t Godflesh. And the lyrics on SOLAH were bad - even by Justin’s standards (by his own admission, lyrics have never been his strength).

In fact Jesu’s self titled was more Godflesh than SOLAH.

Anyway, back to the original topic - what the fuck are the kids even into these days?