Probably not the proper title but it’s certainly the mix…
So, the opening to Nursing Home (the Ministry song not Void’s silly bad) has always bugged me because it starts
“the mote in my eye…”
I never understood it and thought I was just mishearing the lyric but the other night the wife and I are watching season two of the X-Files and low and behold what phrase does Fox Mulder utter… “Blah blah blah prehaps it’s just the mote in my eye… blah blah blah”
So, now I’m sated that that is the correct lyric because now I’ve learned you can have “mote in your eye.”
I’ve never heard that phrase ever before but thanks to the X-Files I’ve learned a little something. Thank you X-Files!
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grmpysmrf
Which I’m sure the X-Files writers read, and is more likely the reference Mulder would have been making.
no… i dont think so.
i know that in the 21st, and the later parts of the 20th century the ‘intellectual’ model has been to ignore the bible and assorted prayer books in general, but the bible is really the literary basis for almost all western works. everyone from Wilde to Goethe down to Steve King and freaking Dean Koontz have all read and studied the bible. the ‘stories’ and language used through out the translations have informed and created most of the fiction we know of and think of as classic.
mulder is a smart guy, and this particular biblical quote is amazingly common and super famous. much more so than this sci-fi work (though, yes i have read it and yes it is good) he would be referencing the biblical quote because it is common place for people (and not just christians, but people who want to stay up on understandings of culture and humanity) to throw references to the multitude of lines from that book that have permeated our culture for centuries.
but smrfy, you really never heard this phrase before? thats so weird.
[reply]but smrfy, you really never heard this phrase before? thats so weird.
No sir, not a once.
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grmpysmrf[/reply]
thats really weird! you know, all jokes aside, maybe you should give the bible a once over. you might be surprised at how much of what we think of as normal expressions and normal plot elements in fiction stem from that book.
in one of the classes i taught i devoted an entire day to the importance of the bible, not as a religious text, but as a cultural foundation.
[reply][reply]but smrfy, you really never heard this phrase before? thats so weird.
No sir, not a once.
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grmpysmrf[/reply]
thats really weird! you know, all jokes aside, maybe you should give the bible a once over. you might be surprised at how much of what we think of as normal expressions and normal plot elements in fiction stem from that book.
in one of the classes i taught i devoted an entire day to the importance of the bible, not as a religious text, but as a cultural foundation.[/reply]
I’ve tried. I can’t get past the people living 900 years and the pages upon pages in a row of “and they had sons and daughters and they had sons and daughters…”
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grmpysmrf
Reading the Bible is so boring you end up missing the interesting stuff, ha ha
But I guess there might be interesting digests somewhere on the web about Biblical references in litterature,popular culture, whatever… Or at least there should be.
in one of the classes i taught i devoted an entire day to the importance of the bible, not as a religious text, but as a cultural foundation.
I’ve tried. I can’t get past the people living 900 years and the pages upon pages in a row of “and they had sons and daughters and they had sons and daughters…”
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grmpysmrf[/reply]
it isnt about believing it or any of that. i mean, even the “pages and pages of” sons and daughters part is incredibly important in western civilization and literature. a lot of the names are used in a multitude of works, and their uses are both intentional and clue the reader in on extra traits and meanings.
i have read multiple translations of the bible, and dozens of translations of different holy books in different religions, and each one of them has been an informative and rewarding experience.
in one of the classes i taught i devoted an entire day to the importance of the bible, not as a religious text, but as a cultural foundation.
I’ve tried. I can’t get past the people living 900 years and the pages upon pages in a row of “and they had sons and daughters and they had sons and daughters…”
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grmpysmrf[/reply]
it isnt about believing it or any of that. i mean, even the “pages and pages of” sons and daughters part is incredibly important in western civilization and literature.[/reply]
Who said anything about believing in any of it? It’s just dry boring reading. “so and so lived 900 years and his wife bore him 450 children some of which were name rob and Deirdra and they went on to have other sons and daughters and they had even more sons and daughters and those sons and daughters went on to have their own sons and daughters and then those sons and daughters lived 830 years and had sons and daughters…” I think I stopped after about 10 or so pages of that Ben-Stein-like Narration. Reading that stuff is an exercise in self loathing!!
Glad you find enjoyment out of it. I find it snooze inducing.
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grmpysmrf
