why is al putting everyhting up for sale?

I bet my anal virginity he owes IRS.

All those misrable punks do.

Just peeped some of his personal equipment for sale online.

It is totally junked beyond recognition i.e duct tape, dyslexic magic marker handwrting ALL over that shit!

I think he’s just cleaning house. It’s hard to carry all that stuff which he doesn’t even use anymore. I know they recently bought a house and they planned to sell a lot of old stuff lying around.

http://search.ebay.com/al-jourgensen-ministry_W0QQsojsZ1QQfromZR40
Okay who has bids on Al’s Ford F-150 truck?! [:P]

I think some of that gear is younger than the albums he claims he used them on…

Al owned a ford.

???

Fords suck balls. Altho he seemed to keep the interior spic n span. Kenwood stereo is alright…that’s what I got in my hoopty. Don’t know about all the stickers on the side …the Coop sticker, the flames, the Bush shit on the back, yadda, yadda, a lil old for that kinda shit?

Oh yeah and 120, 000 miles on a 2-thousand???

No way, mudderfugger!

I thought Cubans were all about Impalas…!

Honestly.

When is Al puttin his homemade porn collection up for sale? C’mon thad cooch said there waz goin be real whack ass shit up for grabs…

Kenwood is the record equivalent of “With Sympathy.”

He needs a Nakamichi TD-1200 tape deck. The closest mobile thing to a studio quality tape machine.

But I do agree that Ford “sucks balls.” And what’s with all those bumper stickers? isn’t that an ostentatious way irritating anyone who’s driving in back of you? ideas belong in your head, not on your car.

BUICKS RULE!!!

I’m putting a 455 Stage II engine in my '76 Riviera for little excitement.

I’ve put 35,000 miles on my Focus in a year, no problems what so ever. What just is the problem with Ford out of curisoity?

I’ve been in that Ford truck with Al driving and with the beating he has given it (which is a hell of a lot), it seems to have withstood it all…so it did him good…

Kenwood is the record equivalent of “With Sympathy.”

He needs a Nakamichi TD-1200 tape deck. The closest mobile thing to a studio quality tape machine.

When listening to mixes from a recording… the smartest way to listen is to play the music in the most likely “end-user” experience. I don’t know of anyone with a Nakamichi deck in the car or home. However, I know a shitload of people listening to their music on a Kenwood deck.

Makes all the sense in the world to me.

Al’s truck is awesome.

That’s never been my philosophy. I want to hear music as it was produced in the studio or heard in the control room or in a mastering lab. And it’s more than source units; it’s the speakers and amplifiers that really define the sound. Why are sound engineers so picky about their monitors then?

How would you like to go to MINISTRY concert supplied with Kenwood 6x9’s for speakers? Most people want quality, LIVE, accurate sound (at least those who have enjoyed the last EVILDOER tour) wherever they are.

That’s why true high-end mobile audio started in the late 70’s (Nak decks, a/d/s PowerPlate amps & speakers, audiomobile amps, R/F, etc.)

Oh, and they’re still a lot of us who have nak equipment. I still use my Nak Dragon everyday.

That’s never been my philosophy. I want to hear music as it was produced in the studio or heard in the control room or in a mastering lab. And it’s more than source units; it’s the speakers and amplifiers that really define the sound. Why are sound engineers so picky about their monitors then?

How would you like to go to MINISTRY concert supplied with Kenwood 6x9’s for speakers? Most people want quality, LIVE, accurate sound (at least those who have enjoyed the last EVILDOER tour) wherever they are.

That’s why true high-end mobile audio started in the late 70’s (Nak decks, a/d/s PowerPlate amps & speakers, audiomobile amps, R/F, etc.)

Live sound is COMPLETELY different than studio sound. Yea, engineers use the “BIG” monitors during mixing for pinpointing tiny nuances. But, the audio is ALWAYS run through the “tiny” monitors and checked / tweaked before it reaches the shelf to the consumers.

yes additionally, “high-end” devices are used during recording. The reason for that is (and with your interest/background in audio) you know that with audio you can never add to CORE audio what is to tape, you can only remove.* Therefore, a good engineer will have top notch gear to put audio to tape.

    • what i Mean buy “adding” is not related to the simplistic idea of effects. I mean the CORE sounds that are recorded.

When I said “LIVE,” I wasn’t referring to a band-in-front-you situation. It was purely a descriptive term to describe a credible, dynamic audio recreation experience.

No one would ever want to listen to sound reinforcement speakers for accuracy.

And, yes, you’re right final sound is sometimes auditioned in low-fi equipment; however, the problem is that there’s no reference for what electronic music is supposed to sound like in the first place. It all seems to be equipment-dependent. For example, how did Bog Ludwig go about re-mastering Lou Reed’s “Metal Machine Music”? And in doing so didn’t he create something different than the original version?

Maybe it’s all a matter of preferences, too. If someone “knows” the signature sound of a speaker, then that may be all that they require. Nevertheless, it seems to me that if a mixer uses Yamaha NS-10’s monitors when putting something together, that person isn’t going to get all the musical nuances that the artist intended.

My only point is that I want to hear the REAL thing–the way a recording is mastered to sound. Now, I may not have the same stuff they did, but I want it to sound as close as possible to what the artist/producer imagined. Isn’t that what we want to get out of listening to music?

For instance, if a car has a crappy sound system, I don’t even bother playing music. Instead, I just listen to the news/talk radio.

right on. :slight_smile: