I own 3125 Chaka Khan records. I have no room in my apartment for anything other than my massive Chaka Khan collection. I do not shower as the bathtub is filled with fabulous Chaka Khan albums.
I feel for you.
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But over all, to answer your question… I don’t care for it as a Guns N Roses record. It’s pretty good Pop music in the vein of Lincoln Park and other such bubble gum bands. But as a Guns Record, it’s not that good…
Agreed.
I’m not a Guns n’ Roses fan by a long shot (not even a casual listener…by a long shot) but I must admit to finding certain tracks (notably Civil War and Estranged) to be rather guilty pleasures.
But the new album just doesn’t deliver the goods - on any level whatsoever. There is absolutely nothing there that you could walk away humming to yourself after three or four listens. It’s, as you said, a rather stale, run o’ the mill pop rock record with a ‘modern’ edge feel to it. The songwriting is lousy (just check out the lyrics to Better to catch my drift) and the music is rather flat and uninspired.
And that guy is seriously losing his voice.
Public Image Ltd
Bauhaus
Throbbing Gristle (including 5 picture discs and numerous videos)
Einsturzende Neubauten (LOTS!)
Boredoms (and side projects)
The Cure (hmmmm…about a dozen releases)
Godflesh/Jesu/Final
Jim O’Rourke (and related)
Nurse With Wound
Brian Eno
Mauritzio Bianchi
John Zorn
Tool
Butthole Surfers (including some super rare 7"s. I also own every version of Rembrandt Pussyhorse ever released!!!)
Also TONS of Black Metal…couldn’t tell you which band I own the most of though. Just don’t have time to count it all.
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But over all, to answer your question… I don’t care for it as a Guns N Roses record. It’s pretty good Pop music in the vein of Lincoln Park and other such bubble gum bands. But as a Guns Record, it’s not that good…
Agreed.
I’m not a Guns n’ Roses fan by a long shot (not even a casual listener…by a long shot) but I must admit to finding certain tracks (notably Civil War and Estranged) to be rather guilty pleasures.[/reply]
well if you have to pick some guilty pleasures, you picked a doozy!! Estranged is a fantastic song from start to finish. I love that Slash solos all the way through it and then has Solos within his soloing! I think Civil War is a pretty mediocre song though. Although, GNR mediocre is usually better than Most other Band’s fantastic.
But the new album just doesn’t deliver the goods - on any level whatsoever. There is absolutely nothing there that you could walk away humming to yourself after three or four listens. It’s, as you said, a rather stale, run o’ the mill pop rock record with a ‘modern’ edge feel to it. The songwriting is lousy (just check out the lyrics to Better to catch my drift) and the music is rather flat and uninspired.
I wouldn’t say this gnr has a “modern edge” to it. this album could’ve come out 10 years ago with “hybrid theory” and it would’ve blended right in.
I don’t know about the humming thing though! I find myself humming the piano to “this i love” “there was a time” and the guitar to “better” I really like the main rhythm guitar to “better.” but, yea, the lyrics are a bit silly. I think the parts on the album that are good, are really very good, but the parts that are bad are really beyond bad. and unfortunately there are far more bad parts. Hell, whole songs are pitiful!! Shackler’s revenge?! Chinese Democracy?! WTF?!?! there are NO redeemers in those songs
And that guy is seriously losing his voice.
I Think Axl still has his chops. I didn’t notice anything different. I thought that was the only real saving grace of the album; the Axl screech. Amazing we found some common ground on something.[;)]
Late,
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My largest however is Ozzy/Black Sabbath stuff.
I have every Sabbath album with Ozzy on vinyl, cassette and cd. Also own the Black Box set of Sabbath as well. And I have all Ozzy albums up to Live and Loud on cassette, have them all on cd, (sometimes twice with the remastered stuff), and a few of them on vinyl.
FUCK YEAH.
I had all the Ozzy-era Sab, then I sold it when I got the Black Box. “Evil Woman” and “Blue Suede Shoes” made the whole fifty-dollar redundancy worth it.
The Black Box is awesome. I swear I can hear some drum fills from Bill Ward that I have never heard before.
edit: I find it so weird that bands back then didn’t have unreleased material. I mean, if Skinny Puppy can have so much stuff (all the Back And Forth series…) But Sabbath doesn’t seem to have much. I’d love to hear some new/old stuff. Demos, studio outtakes, anything!
yeah considering that first black sabbath album was recorded in 24 hours or so (recorded, not written), it’s understandable. maybe they all keep the outtakes unreleased for some reason. there are no led zep outtakes either, save for 3 or 4 b-sides which appeared as a bonus on “coda” rerelease or something.
then again, there are bootlegs of the studio sessions. the bootleg for beatles’ “let it be” session is enormous, it’s like, 2000 tracks with different takes, etc. hard to listen to it though for obvious reasons.
also, back in the sabbath/zep/whatever days it was sort of a norm to release one album per year or two at max (early before then it was 2 albums a year). look how much time it takes today between the album releases in general. longer tours, more time spent in the studio.
uhm probably frank zappa, and david bowie… i got basically every main bowie cd, a few singels, box sets, etc… and lots of zappa… then kmfdm is up there and alot of mike patton projects as well.
Ha!
My Sunn O)) / Stephen O’Malley collection just grew by one today. Domkirke arrived in the mail.
Now I have:
White 1
White 2 (2 disc version)
Black One (2 disc version)
Grimmrobe Demos (2 disc version)
OO Void (2 disc version)
Pentemple - O))) Presents
Gravetemple
Domkirke
Altar (cd)
Altar (3 lp version)
Ginungagap - Crashed Like Wretched Moth
KTL - KTL 2
Aethenor - Deep In Ocean Sunk The Lamp Of Light
For me it’s a tie between KMFDM & Laibach.