What are you listening to right now?

I’m not twisting words at all. You made the point (with that Lennon quote) that Elvis is better because he came first. I pointed out that just because you came first doesn’t mean you’re the best and I posted better covers. You then posted that my argument was wrong and then proceeded to use my argument (that you said was wrong) to show that Elvis does covers way better… How is that twisting words?

Some (most likely the back community) would argue that Little Richard did that.

Elvis was a dumb hick who died on the toilet and everyone mocks him now now. See how this could be applied in any way when it comes to opinions?

Lol don’t a lot of rock stars die in retarded ways? T-that’s your argument?

Certainly. Didn’t Jim Morrison drown in the tub or some nonsense?

No my argument is…
My stance has just been that Elvis’ image/legend has become so clown like I’m not interested in seeking shit out on my own.

Sorry you guys cant follow a line of reasoning.

You started with record sales and have now wandered into trashing some nobody who wrote blue suede shoes. But dont trash Elvis!

Nobody can come up with some scientific formula when it comes to opinion and preference.

All of your support for elvis is easily refuted because its all opinion and what little science you can bring in makes him 3rd at best. Its cool man you can like Elvis.

I like Slash, not everyone has to like Slash. Im not out to convince anyone. If you like Slash, cool we got some shit in common, if you don’t no biggee to me. If you wanna talk shit about him? Okay. Doesn’t impede my enjoyment of him. It doesn’t bother me one way or another if he gets the credit he’s due.

Like i said multiple times. Elvis’ image turns me off. Im sure he’s a great singer but from what ive heard from him its not my style and combined with his image… just not interested…

Also, like i said, i have no hard feelings. Im merely popping your balloon for some shenanigans. I also told you upfront i was arguing just to argue. so revcos passive aggressive heart on that stupid gif Really means nothing.

Calm down son. It’s all good.

For what its worth, if i knew you were gonna freak out about it this bad i wouldnt’ve said anything. So, sorry for that.

this one always got me outta my seat! the :goat:

Ive heard this one before. I didnt know he was with the Phil Harmonic. Yeah im not feeling this one. The other one you posted was better (And i would dare say even good). His voice seems thin in this video whereas in the other one you posted his voice was definitely fuller and better sounding.

I dunno what I’m listening to, but my neighbors are listening to me absolutely killing myself laughing so much.

It’s a shame there’s a character limit, cuz it makes quote replying way less funny.

Silly, isn’t it? LOL :rofl: :joy:

The scientific formula is; can this artist appeal to a broad demographic and do so consistently? Now does Elvis fall under that formula? Yes, yes he does. Preference has no say in the matter. Do you think the labels sign artists based on the CEO’s preferences? Lol. They bring artists in objectively, knowing they appeal to certain audiences not because Joe Blow CEO listens to them in his car rides to work.

Grumps just isn’t intellectually consistent. Calls Elvis a caricature then turns around and puts over his favs Slash, KISS, Zeppelin, Crue… I like KISS, Zeppelin, Crue myself but if you think they’re not caricatures themselves you’re not being honest with yourself. In 50 years kids will be saying the exact same thing you’re saying about Elvis. In fact I’d bet money if you showed a buncha teenagers a KISS performance they’d be giggling and not taking it seriously.

Also isn’t Robert Plant just a more feminine imitation of Elvis? But somehow he’s not a farty old hick because all the cool kids on the block used to listen to Zeppelin in your day? lol

LIke DJ said, I don’t expect many of you here to be Elvis fans, most of us are Gen x and millennials but if you can’t be objective about Elvis you’re not being intellectually honest.

I mean i can be demeaning too…

Robert Plant… HUR HUR. Screaming European homo in bell bottoms.

Motley Crue… Hepatitis and hairspray dey succkkkk HUR HUR

see how ridiculous that sounds?

Sounds pretty accurate to me. Hahahahaha.

Not a fan of either of those bands.

LOL Still going on about it, huh? I’ll keep playing, but if you really start to get angry and others continue to get all emotional over it, I quit.

Along with a gazillion other people. That’s pretty weak. Many people do that way better than Elvis. (Well at least Garth and more importantly The Beatles :wink:)

Not really sure how this relates to your argument… but yeah I agree.

No truer words were ever spoken from Wayne Newton’s character in Adventures of Ford Fairlane:

Do you realize we’re gonna have to… ship this “wick-prick” platinum just so the teenage girls will have a compact disc cover to get wet with? Come on, you gotta know better than anybody that, uh, there’s a lot more to the music industry than actual music. You just have to learn to tune it out.

I’m the only one here who has been consistent. I’ve followed your inconsistency over the internet shooting down one claim after another. Do you call starting with Elvis being the best because of record sales, moving on to Elvis being the best because he was the first (Maybe first white guy), then moving on to Elvis being the best because he was not the first because he was doing covers, back to Elvis being the best because of mass appeal, consistent?

I don’t like KISS even remotely, but i’ve never heard a bad thing about their stage show, even from people who claim to not be KISS fans. (I’ve heard their stage show is 10x better than their music, easily believed since their music blows). I’m barely a casual fan of the Crue. I like Zeppelin’s Singles.

KISS started out caricatures. So, kinda silly to say “they became…” when that’s what they were doing all along. The Crue are definitely cartoons. Slash and Zeppelin are rock gods, though. (Even if Zeppelin isn’t my Rock God) and if you think Zeppelin or Slash are cartoons compared to Elvis? Then there’s no helping you. You’re blinded by the gold lamé jump-suit.

Hand over your money. As somebody who works at a high school, I can tell you there is much love for KISS in the hallways. Also, Johnny Cash, Misfits, Zeppelin, Guns n Roses, Metallica, Nirvana, an occasional Smashing Pumpkins as well as an occasional The Smiths, and there’s one specific kid who dresses in all black every day and wears death metal shirts. Burzum, Mayhem, Sepultura, Etc. Funnily enough not so much Elvis. Actually NO ELVIS. So, based on your “teenagers won’t like it.” claim to validate Elvis, Panic at the Disco are more popular than Elvis and therefore better music. Still wanna go with the “what the kids like…” route?

Ugh… It’s been OVER 50 years since Zeppelin hit. So… Um, yeah. I gotta wait another 50… ? So, a hundred years I’ve gotta wait for what people said about Elvis after 25? LOL. Not the most solid of arguments.

I wouldn’t know. I would say, no based on what I know of the 2.

Didn’t all the cool kids like Elvis back in the day? No, Zeppelin weren’t really on the radar back in my day, at least not in my frumpy old town.

Objective? What is there to be objective about? He stole black music and brought it in an acceptable form to a white racist audience (Although, the ultra racists weren’t fooled by it and still wanted him banned cause they knew it was associated with “the darkies”)… He was huge for about 20 or so years and then turned into a complete joke… That’s pretty much it. Anything else is a rewriting of history. AND I would say that the Crue isn’t quite the joke Elvis is, although, yes, still a joke.

Okay. I guess, Sure. Still not as image failed as Elvis, though.

Certainly. but again, not as image failed as Elvis. I guess you could make the argument that the Crue aren’t even important enough to make fun of anymore but ya’ know, whatever.

Not really. I think it’s pretty spot on with the Crue. But at least some of their songs are catchier than anything Elvis, though. You know, CEOs don’t sign their personal favorites. :wink:

Lmao holy shit guy. If i knew you’d be obsessed with me I would’ve never replied to you. I’m freaking out right? But notice you’re the only one frantically typing up walls of texts. lol

TL;DR

Speaking about Robert Plant…so sad his music has sucked the past 20 yrs. Clapton’s another one.

You typed up 3 posts right in a row, yeah you’re freaking out… I just replied back to you cause I got nothing better to do. I’m bored. So, I’m arguing for entertainment. Again, sorry you got so butt hurt. Elvis is the Messiah, there is none better! feel better now?

True. Sometimes they overstay their welcome. I’m sure if Elvis had survived his 80’s and 90’s albums would’ve sucked balls

The only solo Robert Plant I know of is Tall Cool One. Which was throughly mediocre. I didn’t even know he was still active in making music. I thought he was more of a recluse now. I do not like Clapton either (Maybe Tears in Heaven). Yawn inducing!

Now you’re getting it!!!

See yourself out weirdo