We give Al too much shit. Is he an alcoholic? Duh! A megalomaniac? Kind of… A genius? Maybe
But at the end of the day the guy is fucking cool and he’s why we’re all here. No Connelly or Barker has the charisma to make this all happen. It’s a trade off. Get it?
Use this thread to show Ministry and Uncle Al Jourgensen LOVE not hate.
Good man, a positive thread for once, i like it! Ministry and the side projects have had a huge influence on my musical life, nobody in his kind of music has ever equalled them in my mind, and mostly that was because of Al; the insanity, the darkness, the pure fucking genius of the guy. Obviously he has chosen his “co-conspirators” well for the most part, and they’ve brought an enormous amount to the table, but it’s his band, he is the core, and at the end of the day that’s why Ministry has been my favourite band for a long, long time.
Well done Void for bringing some positivity, let’s see how long it’ll last.
Ministry served it’s purpose in my life when it was meant to. def. opened the doors for me to experience other things musically.
Twitch will probably always be my favorite, though I haven’t listened to it in years. I should give it a listen, I’ve actually been listening to some Ministry after reading the book.
Been listening to Filth Pig recently, forgot how good that record is, and how ballsy it is after Psalm 69. Imagine if it had Paisley and a couple of tracks like that on it, would have really pissed some people off but so what!
And, I actually gave myself the chore (literally, I wrote it on my weekly chore list) to listen to the trilogy albums plus Relapse all the way through. I did, and while they aren’t my cup of tea at all, and some of it was just plain bad, it was fun. I laughed, I cringed, and I released some of my anger from the school year via the music.
I’m curious about FBTE.
Al used to have a very good ear for music and talent. Gathered very talented musicians. Gathered them like an army, heh. Straight up didn’t a fuck. Everything was unpredictable. You never really knew what Al and co. were going to do next, what they were going to play live, or who would show up at the shows.
If only he continued the side projects like PTP and 1000 Homo DJs. That’s some great stuff.
Uh… well, this is sure homosexual - but not in a gay way, bro. Anyway, I guess I used to think Al was pretty bad ass… or he was pretty bad ass at one point in time and took part in making some absolutely amazing music and chaotic live shows.
Don’t think Al is a genius and don’t think Paul is a genius. But when they come together genius shit goes down and great music is made. It’s like they only have half a brain without the other and when united their mind connects into a complete brain that is beyond genius level. Power Rangers type shit or something.
Al being an alcoholic or megalomaniac is not why I think he’s lame now though. Oh, sorry… positive… staying positive. Dark Side of the Moon and Filth Pig are among my favorite albums ever. Same with “In Case… live” They’re timeless to me and sound fresh and bad ass to this day.
Great thread, Void. . .
Yes, I very much appreciate my Uncle Al. Countless hours of great music, where to start?
The video for “Stigmata”. The guitar riff on “Thieves”. The extended drum intro to “Breathe” on In Case You Didn’t Feel Like Showing Up. The “Never trust a junkie” sample. The live version of “The Fall”. A cameo in AI. Catching Al’s harmonica on the Animositisomina tour. “No W”. Being intrinsic to The Hurt Locker soundtrack. Hanging at the Relax Lounge in Chicago after the last show on the C-U-LaTour. . .
Revolting Cocks. Pailhead. Lard. PTP. Acid Horse. 1000 Homo DJs. Buck Satan.
Thanks for all the amazing music and memories.
I am drunk right now.
i love revco, pailhead. ptp, lard. mind is a terrible ,. skinny puppy rabies, twitch freaked me out - but loved it.
thanks al.
After picking up the book my Al love is back on.I really think Houses is one of the best they made it just get’s lumped in with the other not so good thrash records.But yeah Houses…and all the classic stuff’ cept mind when you actually listen to the whole thing it’s more of a ministry/ c.c. split i think darkside holds up better as ministry’s “dark” records (Even though dsots was also there most light-hearted)
Fuuuck. I’m getting the book now. Too much praise on here for it to not pick it up.
In all serious. Al was someone I used to view as the epitome of bad ass. The opening of the Sphinctour DVD where he’s just walking around with a bottle of wine casually slung over his shoulder and his bad ass helmet with the spike and usual leather coat. Shit was awesome to me at the time and still is now.
ICYDFLSUL video (and audio) is a whole other story. He is a fucking god on that video/album.
I haven’t listened to a Skinny Puppy album or most of Al’s peers (unless you include NIN as a peer) in a long time and hated most of them but I’ll throw on Ministry pre-2004 every once in a while and remember how fucking amazing they were. Filth Pig hasn’t aged a bit. And “Eureka Pile” still gives me a massive boner.
Fuuuck. I’m getting the book now. Too much praise on here for it to not pick it up.
fucking follower. “everyone else is doing it. i will too.” good for you leader. sad little waste
[reply]Fuuuck. I’m getting the book now. Too much praise on here for it to not pick it up.
fucking follower. “everyone else is doing it. i will too.” good for you leader. sad little waste[/reply]
Wow, dude. You’re just being blatantly retarded now.
[reply][reply]Fuuuck. I’m getting the book now. Too much praise on here for it to not pick it up.
fucking follower. “everyone else is doing it. i will too.” good for you leader. sad little waste[/reply]
Wow, dude. You’re just being blatantly retarded now.[/reply]
you must have done another line
[reply][reply][reply]Fuuuck. I’m getting the book now. Too much praise on here for it to not pick it up.
fucking follower. “everyone else is doing it. i will too.” good for you leader. sad little waste[/reply]
Wow, dude. You’re just being blatantly retarded now.[/reply]
you must have done another line[/reply]
Holy fuck, was that even a minute? Are you sure you haven’t snorted a couple lines or a fucking bag? I imagine you rocking back and forth in a computer chair, drooling, and waiting for me to post. You’re like the Ted Haggard of this forum.
Sad bastard. I am beginning to actually feel pitty for you, man. Not even being condescending or bashing you. I really think you’re fucking mental and it’s to the point that’s it’s getting dark and no longer amusing or funny.
Unless y’all are the types to get butthurt beyond repair because Al hates Chris and Paul, I do recommend checking out the book. There’s a lot of stuff about the early years. I’m at about the 1/2 way point and he still hasn’t done Ps69 if that gives any weight.
There’s some sloppiness on behalf of Wiederhorn, but overall it’s an easy and very enjoyable read. Yes, there is a fair amount of drunken or drug-crazed lunatic hijinks in it. Would people rather read about his stamp collection or something? The dude was a raging rock and roll psycho. Many of us fans actually do want to read more about that.
[reply][reply][reply][reply]Fuuuck. I’m getting the book now. Too much praise on here for it to not pick it up.
fucking follower. “everyone else is doing it. i will too.” good for you leader. sad little waste[/reply]
Wow, dude. You’re just being blatantly retarded now.[/reply]
you must have done another line[/reply]
Holy fuck, was that even a minute? Are you sure you haven’t snorted a couple lines or a fucking bag? I imagine you rocking back and forth in a computer chair, drooling, and waiting for me to post. You’re like the Ted Haggard of this forum.
Sad bastard. I am beginning to actually feel pitty for you, man. Not even being condescending or bashing you. I really think you’re fucking mental and it’s to the point that’s it’s getting dark and no longer amusing or funny.[/reply]
says the guy that always posts back at light speed [rolleyes]
Unless y’all are the types to get butthurt beyond repair because Al hates Chris and Paul, I do recommend checking out the book. There’s a lot of stuff about the early years. I’m at about the 1/2 way point and he still hasn’t done Ps69 if that gives any weight.
There’s some sloppiness on behalf of Wiederhorn, but overall it’s an easy and very enjoyable read. Yes, there is a fair amount of drunken or drug-crazed lunatic hijinks in it. Would people rather read about his stamp collection or something? The dude was a raging rock and roll psycho. Many of us fans actually do want to read more about that.
This site seems to cater to my feelings about Al and the current version of Ministry for the most part. So, seeing so many people praise the book got me to reserve it for pick up tomorrow.
I love rock bios and I love(d) Ministry. Makes perfect sense to get it. I’d love to read more into what happened throughout the years. My main concern was that it’d be focused mostly on the Bush trilogy years.
Al J is definitely one of my biggest idols, if not THE biggest. He’s been really influential. And definitely a unique character, artist, full of charisma.
[reply]Unless y’all are the types to get butthurt beyond repair because Al hates Chris and Paul, I do recommend checking out the book. There’s a lot of stuff about the early years. I’m at about the 1/2 way point and he still hasn’t done Ps69 if that gives any weight.
There’s some sloppiness on behalf of Wiederhorn, but overall it’s an easy and very enjoyable read. Yes, there is a fair amount of drunken or drug-crazed lunatic hijinks in it. Would people rather read about his stamp collection or something? The dude was a raging rock and roll psycho. Many of us fans actually do want to read more about that.
This site seems to cater to my feelings about Al and the current version of Ministry for the most part. So, seeing so many people praise the book got me to reserve it for pick up tomorrow.
I love rock bios and I love(d) Ministry. Makes perfect sense to get it. I’d love to read more into what happened throughout the years. My main concern was that it’d be focused mostly on the Bush trilogy years.[/reply]…good lord.
Al IS Ministry. no doubt. everything the other guys brought to the table helped, and pushed, and moved the music along, but it is the really dark spark that Al brings to everything that creates the power of Ministry.
i wont be reading his book because i DONT want to know what he remembers or how he looks at who he WAS from now who he IS. you know?
the Al that shot up in his eye, hung out with Leary and Burr, looked like death warmed over and barked out the ‘fuck’ rant during Stigmata on In Case… is the hero i remember. the complete renegade. self-destructive, loveless, hopeless, careless. he was so pure and powerful at that point. and i KNOW it was an act. hell, it was clearly an act. he has always been acting. and that is kinda what makes him so tragic and so beautiful. there was so much self-loathing in his actions that he hid behind carelessness… and i really fell in love with that.
i dont like all of the music he did, especially after his outlook, and thus his acting changed. but that doesnt matter. what matters is that for a good grip there, Al was at his most honest when he was lying to us all, and i felt very close to that.
i will ALWAYS think of Al as one of my strongest influences, even if TECHNICALLY some lyrics or some musical parts, or whatever were written by someone else, it was the way HE sold it and the way HE delivered it all that made it so important to me.
I liked him when he looked like this…
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