The Walking Dead

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[reply]Seriously? How do you get bored with negan running around?
man, I don’t get it. I really like the comic and I’m kinda pissed they always leave off on a cliff hanger. I’m digging all out war right now cause it’s every other week. So for the most part I run to the comic shop when it’s the day.
Oh well to each their own

Negan is just too… flat for me. i donno, its hard to say. maybe i got burned out on the 99 issues before number 100, but 100 in particular just felt empty and loveless, and then the little bits i read afterward were even more… dry.

[there be spoilers!]

i think killing Glenn that way and at that time was nothing other than a cheap and dishonest attention grabber. someone had to die in issue 100, and it had to be someone that mattered. that tied in with the HUGE amount of misogynistic elements to Negan’s introduction and character just struck me as uninspired. also, well before issue 100, the writing for Carl was starting to bother me. in the comics since the run in with the cannibals i felt the writing getting a little less invested in some of the side characters, to the point that a lot of them have become quite cardboard.

i havent been keeping up with the All Out War block, but im ok with that. Negan is just not at all appealing to me as a villain, and i fear that big choices were made too early in the series that are being regretted now, and the writing is suffering.

that said, the show on the other hand has REALLY stepped up. the Gov in this last season became a nuanced and many-feathered animal, pulling out a lot of interesting moments and characteristics that gave me a whole lot of ideas and questions about him.[/reply]

Definitely SPOILERS

I tore through the compendiums like a madman and then picked up with the single issues with Negan. man, we could not be more opposite on negan. I think Negan trumps the governor in so many ways (in both comic and TV). I really didn’t care for the Tv Show governor 'cause, to me, he was too tamed down. they also made him white, where in the comic he was clearly mexican. Although, I think that casting call was a good one because David Morissey really brought that whole charisma and charm, country bumpkin style, politician to the character, whereas the governor in the comic was really just a brute. but that being said, I didn’t care for the governor in the show just because he, I felt, was one dimensional. Although, I think Morissey played the one dimension well, but then again how hard is it to portray lindsay graham or a plethora of other deep south politicians?

Negan, on the other hand, ups the power hungry brutishness of the comic book governor 20 fold. Man that guy is a scum bag of the highest order and I don’t think I’ve ever seen a villain as evil and self serving as he. The most messed up thing about him is he has convinced himself that he does all of his fucked up shit for the good of the group he heads. Just a pure sadist. You can go ahead and not like him for the misogynistic pig that he is but it’s not like those personalities don’t exist in real life (obviously not to his degree but Misogyny still exists whether anyone likes it or not). I seriously wouldn’t even call him misogynistic based on how cruel he is to everyone. The way he killed glenn was extremely cruel and the fact that he made jokes over it was just the topper. Yeah I agree the death of glenn was an attention grabber but it’s not like they killed him off and then took negan down a peg. that guy is still as just as bastarded out now if not even more so now. So, I think while he may not be a character you like based on the personality they gave him I don’t really think he’s flat. I really think it is going to be hard for them to top negan as far as a bad ass. I’m hoping they do a one shot Negan issue that explains his back story a little like they did for tyrese michone and the governor.

I have mixed feelings about them bringing Negan to the tv show just because I don’t think they will be able to really bring his character to life. they’d have to bring the show to premium cable channel to pull it off. So, I think they would sorely diminish the character but then again I would like to see who they would get to play him and how close they could push the line with him… but if they are going to completely rewrite the character like they did with the governor then I say leave him out of the show.

As far as carl, I’ll take comic book carl over tv show carl ANYDAY. man I hate that kid on the show, he’s a horrible actor and the parts they give certainly don’t help him any. It’s like he graduated from the Annakin skywalker school of acting. Plus that little fucker got dale killed, easily my favorite character from the show, although Daryl is a close second.

Kirkman has kinda said as much about big decision being made and said the show is a nice way to explore different avenues they didn’t take in the comic. So, I take that as Kirkman admitting follies that he made in some of the stories, I seriously don’t think it makes either suffer. as I said, I like the comic as much as I do the show and I’m actually looking forward to the spin off show due to hit next year.

So, you don’t like walking dead comic anymore? You looking to unload those first 100 comics?? [:)]

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[reply][reply]Seriously? How do you get bored with negan running around?
man, I don’t get it. I really like the comic and I’m kinda pissed they always leave off on a cliff hanger. I’m digging all out war right now cause it’s every other week. So for the most part I run to the comic shop when it’s the day.
Oh well to each their own

Negan is just too… flat for me. i donno, its hard to say. maybe i got burned out on the 99 issues before number 100, but 100 in particular just felt empty and loveless, and then the little bits i read afterward were even more… dry.

[there be spoilers!]

i think killing Glenn that way and at that time was nothing other than a cheap and dishonest attention grabber. someone had to die in issue 100, and it had to be someone that mattered. that tied in with the HUGE amount of misogynistic elements to Negan’s introduction and character just struck me as uninspired. also, well before issue 100, the writing for Carl was starting to bother me. in the comics since the run in with the cannibals i felt the writing getting a little less invested in some of the side characters, to the point that a lot of them have become quite cardboard.

i havent been keeping up with the All Out War block, but im ok with that. Negan is just not at all appealing to me as a villain, and i fear that big choices were made too early in the series that are being regretted now, and the writing is suffering.

that said, the show on the other hand has REALLY stepped up. the Gov in this last season became a nuanced and many-feathered animal, pulling out a lot of interesting moments and characteristics that gave me a whole lot of ideas and questions about him.[/reply]

Definitely SPOILERS

I tore through the compendiums like a madman and then picked up with the single issues with Negan. man, we could not be more opposite on negan. I think Negan trumps the governor in so many ways (in both comic and TV). I really didn’t care for the Tv Show governor 'cause, to me, he was too tamed down. they also made him white, where in the comic he was clearly mexican. Although, I think that casting call was a good one because David Morissey really brought that whole charisma and charm, country bumpkin style, politician to the character, whereas the governor in the comic was really just a brute. but that being said, I didn’t care for the governor in the show just because he, I felt, was one dimensional. Although, I think Morissey played the one dimension well, but then again how hard is it to portray lindsay graham or a plethora of other deep south politicians?

Negan, on the other hand, ups the power hungry brutishness of the comic book governor 20 fold. Man that guy is a scum bag of the highest order and I don’t think I’ve ever seen a villain as evil and self serving as he. The most messed up thing about him is he has convinced himself that he does all of his fucked up shit for the good of the group he heads. Just a pure sadist. You can go ahead and not like him for the misogynistic pig that he is but it’s not like those personalities don’t exist in real life (obviously not to his degree but Misogyny still exists whether anyone likes it or not). I seriously wouldn’t even call him misogynistic based on how cruel he is to everyone. The way he killed glenn was extremely cruel and the fact that he made jokes over it was just the topper. Yeah I agree the death of glenn was an attention grabber but it’s not like they killed him off and then took negan down a peg. that guy is still as just as bastarded out now if not even more so now. So, I think while he may not be a character you like based on the personality they gave him I don’t really think he’s flat. I really think it is going to be hard for them to top negan as far as a bad ass. I’m hoping they do a one shot Negan issue that explains his back story a little like they did for tyrese michone and the governor.

I have mixed feelings about them bringing Negan to the tv show just because I don’t think they will be able to really bring his character to life. they’d have to bring the show to premium cable channel to pull it off. So, I think they would sorely diminish the character but then again I would like to see who they would get to play him and how close they could push the line with him… but if they are going to completely rewrite the character like they did with the governor then I say leave him out of the show.

As far as carl, I’ll take comic book carl over tv show carl ANYDAY. man I hate that kid on the show, he’s a horrible actor and the parts they give certainly don’t help him any. It’s like he graduated from the Annakin skywalker school of acting. Plus that little fucker got dale killed, easily my favorite character from the show, although Daryl is a close second.

Kirkman has kinda said as much about big decision being made and said the show is a nice way to explore different avenues they didn’t take in the comic. So, I take that as Kirkman admitting follies that he made in some of the stories, I seriously don’t think it makes either suffer. as I said, I like the comic as much as I do the show and I’m actually looking forward to the spin off show due to hit next year.

So, you don’t like walking dead comic anymore? You looking to unload those first 100 comics?? [:)][/reply]

still more spoilers…

well, i say that his attitude is misogynistic, not just because of his targeting of women (which has been oddly minimal in all reality) but because his entire basis of power and aggression is based around his feminization of his opponent. be it through thick layers of rape-culture humor, or physical belittling, and even the simple demands he places upon making his enemy domesticated. there is a while ‘make me a sandwich’ philosophy behind his forcing of hilltop/alexandrea to feed him.

and i say that he feels flat to me because it doesnt feel new. it feels routine almost. there is nothing new in the character that interests me, just more assault. in part you could say that my general malaise with story came to a head without him at the center so to speak, so his introduction really just kinda… exemplified the things i was bored of with the comic.

and i did unload the ones i had, made a pretty penny. haha. every now and again i check out fan sites just to see an over-view of where the continuity is now. im glad i stopped ingesting the whole thing though.

as for bringing negan to the show… goddamn i really hope they dont. his character just cant be translated in a way that will be at all worth following i feel. i think a better idea for the show (for the time being) would be to give us some non-psychopathic groups to have some conflict with. the power of the show has always been making the audience see the validity in two opposing sides, and i think playing to that would be a great idea… but im not writing it, so i dont have to worry about it. haha.

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still more spoilers…

well, i say that his attitude is misogynistic, not just because of his targeting of women (which has been oddly minimal in all reality) but because his entire basis of power and aggression is based around his feminization of his opponent. be it through thick layers of rape-culture humor, or physical belittling, and even the simple demands he places upon making his enemy domesticated. there is a while ‘make me a sandwich’ philosophy behind his forcing of hilltop/alexandrea to feed him.

Why is all of that misogynistic? because gender roles suggest that’s what happens to women? I think it’s just pure unchecked power, if he was targeting women specifically I would completely agree with you but he’s not. He’s stripping men and women of their value

and i say that he feels flat to me because it doesnt feel new. it feels routine almost. there is nothing new in the character that interests me, just more assault. in part you could say that my general malaise with story came to a head without him at the center so to speak, so his introduction really just kinda… exemplified the things i was bored of with the comic.

Yeah, but it’s certainly a level of assault that is unmatched so far.

and i did unload the ones i had, made a pretty penny. haha.

Excellent for you, I figured it was a long shot but I figured I’d ask anyway :slight_smile:

every now and again i check out fan sites just to see an over-view of where the continuity is now. im glad i stopped ingesting the whole thing though.

I can’t blame you at all, if it’s not your thing, then it’s just not your thing. It’s cool you keep up every now and again just to make sure you still don’t like it… like you haven’t completely written it off. can’t slight you for that.

as for bringing negan to the show… goddamn i really hope they dont. his character just cant be translated in a way that will be at all worth following i feel.

I agree, for the most part, but for vastly different reasons.

i think a better idea for the show (for the time being) would be to give us some non-psychopathic groups to have some conflict with.

Like what? the whole show is centered around death and survival. it seems like the only struggle to center around is a power struggle. every other struggle is already kinda in the show.

the power of the show has always been making the audience see the validity in two opposing sides, and i think playing to that would be a great idea… but im not writing it, so i dont have to worry about it. haha.

You can’t see the validity of negan? A total sadist taking advantage of the total and complete lack of authority? I think he’s more real than the governor. You don’t need charisma and charm when brute force is the law of the land.

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[reply]
still more spoilers…

well, i say that his attitude is misogynistic, not just because of his targeting of women (which has been oddly minimal in all reality) but because his entire basis of power and aggression is based around his feminization of his opponent. be it through thick layers of rape-culture humor, or physical belittling, and even the simple demands he places upon making his enemy domesticated. there is a while ‘make me a sandwich’ philosophy behind his forcing of hilltop/alexandrea to feed him.

Why is all of that misogynistic? because gender roles suggest that’s what happens to women? I think it’s just pure unchecked power, if he was targeting women specifically I would completely agree with you but he’s not. He’s stripping men and women of their value

and i say that he feels flat to me because it doesnt feel new. it feels routine almost. there is nothing new in the character that interests me, just more assault. in part you could say that my general malaise with story came to a head without him at the center so to speak, so his introduction really just kinda… exemplified the things i was bored of with the comic.

Yeah, but it’s certainly a level of assault that is unmatched so far.

and i did unload the ones i had, made a pretty penny. haha.

Excellent for you, I figured it was a long shot but I figured I’d ask anyway :slight_smile:

every now and again i check out fan sites just to see an over-view of where the continuity is now. im glad i stopped ingesting the whole thing though.

I can’t blame you at all, if it’s not your thing, then it’s just not your thing. It’s cool you keep up every now and again just to make sure you still don’t like it… like you haven’t completely written it off. can’t slight you for that.

as for bringing negan to the show… goddamn i really hope they dont. his character just cant be translated in a way that will be at all worth following i feel.

I agree, for the most part, but for vastly different reasons.

i think a better idea for the show (for the time being) would be to give us some non-psychopathic groups to have some conflict with.

Like what? the whole show is centered around death and survival. it seems like the only struggle to center around is a power struggle. every other struggle is already kinda in the show.

the power of the show has always been making the audience see the validity in two opposing sides, and i think playing to that would be a great idea… but im not writing it, so i dont have to worry about it. haha.

You can’t see the validity of negan? A total sadist taking advantage of the total and complete lack of authority? I think he’s more real than the governor. You don’t need charisma and charm when brute force is the law of the land.[/reply]

it is misogynistic because in his emasculation of his opponents he is utilizing the same sort of woman-hating that has for generations been the basis for homophobia and masculine gender-normative mindsets. he hates his opposition, so he casts them as women, or as weaker males that he can effectively keep scared by the threat of dehumanizing and oddly sexual violence. so yes, by using the binary of gender roles (something i personally believe should be viewed as a spectrum NOT an either/or) he is a violent woman-hater. so much so that men who he deems to be less than masculine are treated as such. there is a LONG standing trope in literature and in american culture that asian men are somehow less than virile and less ‘manly’ than good ol’ boys. so his immediate targeting of Glenn plays into this.

either way, that aside…

when i said non-psychopathic i didnt mean non-violent. i simply meant not trying to find comic-book styled or war mongering villains, but more so trying to utilize antagonists who are simply… NOT our group. for example, the fellow with the tank that was part of the assault on the prison, he wasnt evil or a megalomaniac. he just wanted to be safe, and as such, he listened to a ‘warlord’ personality that showed up in his life and pushed for war, but without the governor and with some other leader, maybe one less hellbent on MURDERING Rick, but just KILLING him or merely deposing him to take the prison as a safety net things could have been different.

i really enjoy watching/reading stories where the A team and the B team are both just as earnest and given just as much validity, creating significantly more grey area than black and white, good vs bad. Negan is bad. that is established quickly. he is cruel, selfish, and demented from the get-go, so thematically, i got bored with him almost instantly (as i did with the Gov in the comics too… but the general story was still fresh so it didnt bother me… but to have that same feeling again… forget it) i like my conflicts to have shades, for both sides to be validated and almost valiant in their struggle. Negan isnt presented as having valid demands or requests… he is a dictator and a brutal loveless one at that. so no, i dont see his position as valid. and simply upping the cruelty or the violence doesnt make him more interesting or dynamic, that in and of itself is a flat move. its like Mary Manson, just because he says fuck more and talks more about sex and acts more flippant than ever doesnt make him more dangerous… it just makes him tedious, played out and flat.

i can even accept the Cannibals in the comic as a more valid and valiant force, because their madness came from fear/desperation, and thus is understandable, albeit off-putting.

and yes, Dale far, far, far and away was my favorite character on the show. and even from the beginning i thought that he was more interesting on the show than in the comics. it was a shame that the actor wanted to get off the show. luckily parts of the archetype they had in mind for him were able to transfer over to Hershel. but still…

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still more spoilers…

it is misogynistic because in his emasculation of his opponents he is utilizing the same sort of woman-hating that has for generations been the basis for homophobia and masculine gender-normative mindsets. he hates his opposition, so he casts them as women, or as weaker males that he can effectively keep scared by the threat of dehumanizing and oddly sexual violence. so yes, by using the binary of gender roles (something i personally believe should be viewed as a spectrum NOT an either/or) he is a violent woman-hater. so much so that men who he deems to be less than masculine are treated as such. there is a LONG standing trope in literature and in american culture that asian men are somehow less than virile and less ‘manly’ than good ol’ boys. so his immediate targeting of Glenn plays into this.

I think you and I will just disagree on this. Just because you exploit someone’s weakness through fear/brutality/degradation doesn’t mean you are turning them into women.

when i said non-psychopathic i didnt mean non-violent. i simply meant not trying to find comic-book styled or war mongering villains, but more so trying to utilize antagonists who are simply… NOT our group.

Yeah, but then it just becomes the bloods and the crips and that’s really boring.

for example, the fellow with the tank that was part of the assault on the prison, he wasnt evil or a megalomaniac. he just wanted to be safe, and as such, he listened to a ‘warlord’ personality that showed up in his life and pushed for war, but without the governor and with some other leader, maybe one less hellbent on MURDERING Rick, but just KILLING him or merely deposing him to take the prison as a safety net things could have been different.

Yeah, but that guy in the tank isn’t there without a bastard like the governor or Negan there to manipulate him into it.

i really enjoy watching/reading stories where the A team and the B team are both just as earnest and given just as much validity, creating significantly more grey area than black and white, good vs bad.

I can understand that.

Negan is bad. that is established quickly. he is cruel, selfish, and demented from the get-go, so thematically, i got bored with him almost instantly (as i did with the Gov in the comics too… but the general story was still fresh so it didnt bother me… but to have that same feeling again… forget it)

Yeah I could see how you could be turned off by that. I wasn’t so much, but there is more to negan than just negan. what about the whole community he’s built and everybody’s reaction to it? defectors? true believers? I like the dynamic that is built around this type of extreme character. I like hating him.

i like my conflicts to have shades, for both sides to be validated and almost valiant in their struggle. Negan isnt presented as having valid demands or requests… he is a dictator and a brutal loveless one at that. so no, i dont see his position as valid. and simply upping the cruelty or the violence doesnt make him more interesting or dynamic, that in and of itself is a flat move.

I understand that but Negan is such an extreme example of evil how do you combat that? I like this struggle.

its like Mary Manson, just because he says fuck more and talks more about sex and acts more flippant than ever doesnt make him more dangerous… it just makes him tedious, played out and flat.

I agree, but I don’t see negan as this situation. but I could see how someone could.

i can even accept the Cannibals in the comic as a more valid and valiant force, because their madness came from fear/desperation, and thus is understandable, albeit off-putting.

I agree. but you don’t think Negan was born out of this situation? I wonder what he did prior to the apocalypse? was he in a position of power already? was he unemployed hating the system? maybe he flipped burgers? was he a cop? what created this? Just taking advantage of the situation?

and yes, Dale far, far, far and away was my favorite character on the show. and even from the beginning i thought that he was more interesting on the show than in the comics. it was a shame that the actor wanted to get off the show. luckily parts of the archetype they had in mind for him were able to transfer over to Hershel. but still…

Dale was only there because frank darabount was there. when they fired Frank Dale wanted out. as a matter of fact most of the actors were there only because Frank asked them to be there. I respect Dale for leaving with his friend. but yeah it was sad when he went. :frowning:
Sad about hershel. they have the medic angle covered again with the alcoholic guy, but who is now the groups conscience?

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[reply]
it is misogynistic because in his emasculation of his opponents he is utilizing the same sort of woman-hating that has for generations been the basis for homophobia and masculine gender-normative mindsets. he hates his opposition, so he casts them as women, or as weaker males that he can effectively keep scared by the threat of dehumanizing and oddly sexual violence. so yes, by using the binary of gender roles (something i personally believe should be viewed as a spectrum NOT an either/or) he is a violent woman-hater. so much so that men who he deems to be less than masculine are treated as such. there is a LONG standing trope in literature and in american culture that asian men are somehow less than virile and less ‘manly’ than good ol’ boys. so his immediate targeting of Glenn plays into this.

I think you and I will just disagree on this. Just because you exploit someone’s weakness through fear/brutality/degradation doesn’t mean you are turning them into women.
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while i think we should agree to disagree, i still want to clarify that im not saying that degrading people makes them women, im saying the sadosexual way in which HE did it, based on the choices he made, struck me as an indicator that his hatred of what he considers to be ‘weakness’ is modeled on typical uses of misogyny in comics.

but that said,

i think that the show will be interesting now that there is no voice on Rick’s shoulder steering him right. though, in that final moment with Hersh before his neck was slit, the nod and smile he gave Rick seemed to ME at least to establish that Rick’s actions in that moment showed that he didnt NEED Hershel anymore, and that he had finally taken so many of the lessons that Dale and Hersh had tried to give him to heart. you know?

but who knows, in time we shall see. haha.

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[reply][reply]
it is misogynistic because in his emasculation of his opponents he is utilizing the same sort of woman-hating that has for generations been the basis for homophobia and masculine gender-normative mindsets. he hates his opposition, so he casts them as women, or as weaker males that he can effectively keep scared by the threat of dehumanizing and oddly sexual violence. so yes, by using the binary of gender roles (something i personally believe should be viewed as a spectrum NOT an either/or) he is a violent woman-hater. so much so that men who he deems to be less than masculine are treated as such. there is a LONG standing trope in literature and in american culture that asian men are somehow less than virile and less ‘manly’ than good ol’ boys. so his immediate targeting of Glenn plays into this.

I think you and I will just disagree on this. Just because you exploit someone’s weakness through fear/brutality/degradation doesn’t mean you are turning them into women.
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while i think we should agree to disagree, i still want to clarify that im not saying that degrading people makes them women, im saying the sadosexual way in which HE did it, based on the choices he made, struck me as an indicator that his hatred of what he considers to be ‘weakness’ is modeled on typical uses of misogyny in comics. [/reply]
I think I understand where you are coming from, but I think misogyny gets too wide of an umbrella these days but that’s a side issue…either way, I see the angle you’re coming from. Your grumblings on the matter are valid in that it can certainly be interpreted that way.

but that said,

i think that the show will be interesting now that there is no voice on Rick’s shoulder steering him right. though, in that final moment with Hersh before his neck was slit, the nod and smile he gave Rick seemed to ME at least to establish that Rick’s actions in that moment showed that he didnt NEED Hershel anymore, and that he had finally taken so many of the lessons that Dale and Hersh had tried to give him to heart. you know?

I don’t know if I’m ready for Rick to be the conscience of the group. I don’t think that role is befitting him… He’s always had a nice balance of compassion and logic with emotion sometimes getting the better of him. I liked Dale and Hershel cause those two were always level headed compassionate. I don’t think Rick can carry that whole load by himself especially when he is still acts out over his son. Perhaps they will introduce Jesus to the group (can’t remember where he shows up in the comic if it’s right before negan or in the middle of him.) I like his character in the book too. I could see them writing him into the show as the new moral compass.

but who knows, in time we shall see. haha.

Absolutely,

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FFFFFUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKK…they kill Glen???

NOOOOOOOOOOO

why did I read the spoiler??? It’s gonna be so hard to be tight lipped and not just blurt that out on Sunday when we watch.

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the comic does not follow the same story line as the show… read all of what’s been written not just the spoilers

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the comic does not follow the same story line as the show… read all of what’s been written not just the spoilers

I did read it all. I was just commenting about Glen. My bad.

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I really enjoyed the episode last night. The under the bed scene was classic!!!

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I really enjoyed the episode last night. The under the bed scene was classic!!!

YES!

yeah, i am really liking the split up. its giving all the characters a little more room to grow and develop without resting on each other. i actually 'AWW’ed out loud when Michonne was trying to make Carl laugh with the crazy cheese.

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[reply]I really enjoyed the episode last night. The under the bed scene was classic!!!

YES!

yeah, i am really liking the split up. its giving all the characters a little more room to grow and develop without resting on each other. i actually 'AWW’ed out loud when Michonne was trying to make Carl laugh with the crazy cheese.[/reply]

I’m not sure how I feel about the new people yet. Do you guys watch Talking Dead too?

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[reply][reply]I really enjoyed the episode last night. The under the bed scene was classic!!!

YES!

yeah, i am really liking the split up. its giving all the characters a little more room to grow and develop without resting on each other. i actually 'AWW’ed out loud when Michonne was trying to make Carl laugh with the crazy cheese.[/reply]

I’m not sure how I feel about the new people yet. Do you guys watch Talking Dead too?[/reply]

noooo… no i dont.

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[reply][reply][reply]I really enjoyed the episode last night. The under the bed scene was classic!!!

YES!

yeah, i am really liking the split up. its giving all the characters a little more room to grow and develop without resting on each other. i actually 'AWW’ed out loud when Michonne was trying to make Carl laugh with the crazy cheese.[/reply]

I’m not sure how I feel about the new people yet. Do you guys watch Talking Dead too?[/reply]

noooo… no i dont.[/reply]

Talking dead is cool because they delve into the characters thoughts and motivations. But last week they had the dude that plays Abraham on there and he irritated me in real life just as much as he does on the show. lol He’s very Duke Nukem.

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I got caught up on this series and I fucking love it…even when it is uneven it is still so highly and addictively watchable…it’s a pretty bleak and grim show…this most recent season and the one that preceded it in particular…they are really pushing the idea that the humans are way more of a threat than the undead…fun series to watch for sure…

TERMINUS!!!

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This season has been great. The 1st episode this season was scary!

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“The walking dead”
Does that refer to the obvious dead people walking around or the survivors… I’ve often asked

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This season has been great. The 1st episode this season was scary!

Yeah,it has been unrelenting and brutal this season…

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“The walking dead”
Does that refer to the obvious dead people walking around or the survivors… I’ve often asked

It’s a good question to ask,grmps…