"THE STROKE OF GUNNAR" - April 3rd, 2023

“THE STROKE OF GUNNAR”

On April 3, 2023, my life changed forever.

I was working out at Gold’s Gym with my trainer when he looked at me and asked, “Are you okay? You look kind of odd.”

Another gym member immediately replied, “I think he’s having a stroke!”

I had never had a stroke before and had never even been a patient in a hospital. Someone called 911, and the paramedics arrived quickly. They placed me on a stretcher, loaded me into the ambulance, and rushed me to the hospital.

When they put me on the stretcher, they had to cut open my Black Sabbath T-shirt. It was the first time I had ever ridden in the back of an ambulance, and I watched those paramedics work with incredible skill and urgency. I came away with tremendous respect for them. They are outstanding professionals.

I have never written this before, but while I was in the ambulance, I could not feel my arms or my legs. They were completely paralyzed.

My wife and I live in a three-level condo with our bedroom on the third floor. As I lay there, I imagined what our future might become. I thought about how she would have to give up so many of the comforts of our life just to take care of me. I worried we might have to move into a different house and that everything would be turned upside down. I even feared she might have to quit her job to become my full-time caregiver.

So I prayed. I focused all my attention on my arms and legs and asked God to let me have them back.

When the ambulance finally parked outside the hospital, I was able to move my arms and legs again. The relief I felt is impossible to describe.

The doctors performed brain scans, and my wife took a picture of one of them. The white area on the image showed the damaged portion of my brain, the area responsible for speech and language. That region of my brain will be damaged from the stroke until my death; it is about 1/6th of my brain.

The doctors told us, “He has lost all language. He’s going to have to relearn words and sentence structure. He may have only 60% of his language function remaining.”

I spent one week in the hospital. When I was discharged, I couldn’t speak at all. There was only silence. But I refused to quit.

My wife enrolled me in speech-language therapy in Anaheim. My insurance only covered one hour per week, but we found a program where I could work four hours a day. Every day, she drove me there and sat in the car waiting while I worked. She did this for two weeks until I was able to get my driver’s license back.

I love my wife deeply. She sacrificed her own time and energy so that I could focus on becoming the best version of myself again. Her support made all the difference.

After six months of rehabilitation, I returned to work.
My coworkers were thrilled to see me because they understood how serious my stroke had been.

One of the challenges I faced was that I could no longer trust my handwritten notes. My right hand could still write something, but later I often couldn’t read what I had written. Sometimes I would even forget parts of a conversation while it was happening.

So I evolved.

I started telling customers that I had suffered a stroke and asked if they would mind if I used a phone app to record my notes. Then I could focus completely on listening instead of struggling to write everything down. What started as a necessity became a strength. I paid closer attention to people and to what they were really trying to tell me.

Later, at a trade show in Las Vegas, one year after the stroke, I carried a printed copy of my brain scan from the day of the stroke. I would show it to visitors and explain that I had suffered a stroke, and if they could be patient with me, I would gladly help them find the right solution for their property.

Something unexpected happened. People were drawn to the conversation. They didn’t just want to talk about products—they wanted to tell me about their own struggles or the health challenges faced by themselves, their friends, or their family members. The experience created an immediate connection and a level of honesty that I had never experienced before.

With 26 years of experience in the industry, I could still serve my customers well, but now I understood something deeper: Everyone is carrying a story.

Then came the summer of 2024.
At our national sales conference in Chicago, with nearly 400 people in attendance, I was presented with the Courage Award.

I know that many people might have chosen a less demanding role after such a life-changing event, but I threw myself completely back into sales. I didn’t simply return to work—I gave it everything I had. I cared about every customer, listened carefully, and worked hard to understand exactly what they needed. Receiving that award was one of the proudest moments of my life.

My stroke took away part of my language, but it also gave me something unexpected: a deeper appreciation for people, perseverance, faith, and every opportunity to connect with another human being.

It changed my life forever. I became a better listener. I learned that every person has a story worth hearing. I was given a second chance at life, and I am grateful for every day that comes with it.

Thank you, God.
Thank you to my wife and family.
Thank you to the health professionals.
Thank you to my coworkers.
Thank you to my friends.
And thank you to everyone who helped me.

Because of your support, encouragement, and belief in me, I know that I can overcome whatever challenges lie ahead.

“BORN AGAIN”

Stroke - the Black Sabbath shirt I was wearing when I had the stroke 04032023

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that’s great dude, thanks for sharing and it’s nice to see you back on the board.

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Thank you for sharing your story. As someone who has struggled with a serious chronic disease of my own for the last 35+ years, I very sincerely appreciate your own journey. The sense of hope, courage, perseverance and will to be your best for both yourself and your family is encouraging and truly warms my heart.

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Well done pulling through!!! And now you know your wife is truly a keeper. Nice to see you back here too .

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I thought strokes only happened to fat old people… what the hell.

Scary shit man

I remember an old teacher of mine in high school had one and the look of his drooping face haunts me to this day.

Keep going strong

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Also it’s amazing how the brain can remap itself.

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I think it may have been related to the COVID vaccine. I received two doses of the Pfizer vaccine before my stroke. No one at the hospital or during my medical appointments brought it up, but when I expressed my concerns, I was told that they had seen an increase in volume since the vaccine.

I don’t have a personal or political agenda. I simply want to understand what happened to me and whether there could be a connection. I want the facts, whatever they may be, but I feel like I’m not getting the answers I’m looking for.

I have been married for 25 years, and she is the one!

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Thank you! I wish you the best with your disease.

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I’ll be checking it when available.
It was so long that I couldn’t remember how to post subjects and how to link photos.

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I love ya Gunnar but that’s crazy conspiranoia talk
Not to mention a post hoc fallacy.

I’m thinking probably your cigarettes, alcohol and poor diet for the last 20+ years was the likely culprit. (you’ve told us before you been living hard since the 90s-your stories tell of your rants at Wendy’s for hoarding the bacon on the baconator or spending xmas money on a pile of delicious bacon)
people who smoke and drink and have a high fat diet get strokes all the time. nobody who got the vaccine got strokes because of it. If they did stroke it was because there were other factors and not specifically because of the vaccine. (J&J had blood clots that may have led to strokes but the clots were the trigger and you didn’t get J&J)
Covid vaccine had nothing to do with it.

Oh, ya’ think? ignoring the fact that covid itself elevates stroke risk, There was a pandemic going on, people are out work, people couldn’t pay rent, people were seeing loved ones die, hospitals are overcrowded, theres no toilet paper, lunatic president talking about a hoax and any other explanation to make it not his responsibility, people are eating even more unhealthy, life situations are uncertain, you don’t think that’s gonna cause stress? high blood pressure? all things that lead to strokes. come on dude you’re a sociology major just like me you know all too well the problems with specious reasoning.

[quote=“Gunnar, post:7, topic:13225”]
I want the facts, whatever they may be,[/quote]
Here ya go:

Theres no connection bro, bad diet, hard living and age finally caught up with ya’.
It’s right up there with eric clapton claiming he can’t play guitar anymore because the covid vaccine… Oh really? so the 60+years of hard drugs and carpal tunnel shaped guitar chords had nothing to do with anything? GTFOH, eric.
Covid vaccines saved lives. ivermectin only helped kennedy, and hard living just caught up with you, bro. planes all over the world for work, along with you circadian rhythm always being wrecked from said plane rides, time zone changes and eating from a take out box most of the time, along with all the late night concerts along with still bad food at said concerts along with cigarettes and alcohol, makes it pretty hard to make the case against the vax. even quitting smoking you gotta wait about 3 years for the damage to reverse itself. on top of that add the gym, now you got possible strain which leads to blood pressure spikes, hyper tension neck strains etc etc…
AND not only that getting covid itself causes stroke likelihood to rise. and since you got the jab you may have gotten covid and not known because the jab lessoned the symptoms.
20+ years of hard living Versus 2 shots? it’s not even a contest.

the answers you want aren’t the facts. The evidence says 20+ years.
covid vax blame is just convenient cause no one wants to believe they are responsible for hurting themselves. I remember being in high school and hearing the older generation tell me/us how unhealthy our diet was and warning against diabetes, strokes and heart attacks. at the time we just didn’t believe them because bacon tastes good, dr pepper at 8 am is definitely a breakfast beverage, burgers and pizza are the only food groups I need since I’m skinny cross country runner, and besides all that, we got all the time in the world cause we’re young, well now we’re not so young anymore and those warnings are absolutely in play now. We’re just at that stage in life where we have to believe it will happen to us.
I’m not just lecturing, I got on board the change train a year ago last June at 49 1/2 years old. I weighed in at 275lbs I’m 6’1. I cut calories, started exercising, cut out the fast food, upped my protein, body fat from my last scan was at 17%. I’m 190lbs as of today’s scale reading. Dr took me off the statins 2 mos ago. I finally got old enough to realize those warnings now applied to me.

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It was a rushed experimental vaccine I wouldn’t be surprised. They’re not exactly gonna disclose the side effects of that shit.

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Welcome back bro! Stay Healthy!!

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Re: Vaccines and lifestyle choices

I also started having some health issues not too long after taking the vaccine. Like Gunnar, I also started thinking along the lines of vaccine side-effects, but it dawned on me pretty quickly that my self-conduct and habits througout the last 47 years might just have had an effect on my well-being.

I’ve been smoking, drinking and not taking very good care of myself most of my adult life as well, and being a scaffold builder doesn’t exactly do wonders for me either - well, except from keeping me on the lean side and somewhat fit (except for my poor back)

Sometimes the truth hurts… :frowning: Fortunately, I have slowly started improving myself as well.

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HAHAHA!!! The bacon was for effect on Facebook! :joy: I think I ate that Wendy’s Baconator about 15 years ago, just for Facebook!

I was exercising with a trainer at Gold’s Gym and living a healthy lifestyle when I had my stroke. The doctors never really addressed my concerns, but when I went to private speech therapy for my treatment, the speech therapists acknowledged what I had been thinking.

I consider myself a healthy person. In 29 years of working, I think I took two days off because of the flu, and that was about 20 years ago. I had never been hospitalized before my stroke. I also quit smoking after menthol cigarettes were banned. I only smoked when I went to concerts.

Maybe the vaccine had nothing to do with my stroke. Maybe it was bad luck. I honestly don’t know, and I’m not claiming to have the answer. But I had the Pfizer vaccine twice, and I genuinely want to know whether it could have contributed to my stroke.

I feel like you’re making it sound as though I spent 24 hours a day smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol, and that simply wasn’t my lifestyle. I might have a drink or three at a concert, but that doesn’t define how I lived my life.

I’m not trying to prove a political point or blame anyone. I just want honest answers. Can the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine cause a stroke, and could it have played a role in my particular case? Maybe there’s a connection, maybe there isn’t. I just want the facts and a fair investigation of the possibilities.

Unfortunately, it feels like we’re so divided that even asking a question or making one mistake can turn into a political controversy. This shouldn’t be about politics. It should be about finding the truth, understanding what happened, and getting honest answers without people making assumptions or jumping to conclusions.

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Let me get some stuff out of the way first. I’m glad you came back to post, sir.
Your posts have added some much needed life to this board. the board hasn’t been this exciting since you left.

I respect you and am honored to call you a friend.

we both know we both have strong opinions and personalities. I come off as a more blunt asshole with mine. you come off as hilarious sarcastic wit with yours.
I wish I had more of that touch.
I know that you have made tremendous gains with getting your speech back, and it’s not completely restored but because I do respect you I can’t suddenly go soft on ya because you got sick. You’re gunnar and your a smart motherfucker even if the vocab doesn’t come as fast as it did before, so me not responding like i always would, would be disrespectful in my opinion. so without further ado…

I’m sorry I came off that way. I wasn’t trying to come off like that. but one doesn’t need to be a chain smoking alcoholic for decades in order to be at an elevated risk for stroke. Weekend benders, heavy social drinking/smoking (even on just the weekends). Again, bad food. I obviously don’t know your medical history but if you have high blood pressure or high cholesterol, hyper tension any of these. whenever we were hanging out together you were never without a drink or a cig (unless you were around my family. Then that stuff was no where to be seen <3) and we were both eating bad food before and after every concert.

I understand bro but the way you’ve poised the question makes it seem like the documented info that is already out there is not good enough. the honest answer is that there is no link between strokes and the covid vaccine. Did you have a blood clot? Cause there is a link there. but again that was J&J not pfizer. and it was pulled before 10 people ended up with clots and that was after millions of doses were given out millions Vs 6 and the 6 wins out. so why pull it for clots but leave it for strokes? Makes no sense.

Scientists don’t keep each other’s secrets.it just doesn’t happen. they blast that shit out for all to hear because they are looking for their own glory. they want to be the scientist that gets that breakthrough and until that happens they’re ok with being the scientist that keeps other scientists from getting theirs by finding out where they fucked up. The Science community is more cutthroat that professional athletes.

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it’s absolutely fact that Getting covid raises you potential for a stroke, that is fact. but the J&J covid vax raised your potential for brain blood clots. if theyre all about covering shit up, as the question suggests, why didn’t they sit on that clot info as well?

People misunderstand vaccines. vaccines don’t guarantee to keep you from getting a disease. Short version is it boosts your immune system so the immune system fights it more effectively. your situation is probably that the vaccine did its job so well that you never knew you had covid.
but it’s likely that you probably did catch it, (I don’t know the percentage but it’s ridiculously high, of the amount of Americans who got covid) which is what likely contributed to the stroke. You’re doctors can tell you if you had covid. pretty sure they tested for it. hell if anybody went to the doctor for anything, athletes foot a stubbed toe they tested for covid. I’m sure it’s in your medical records.

I’m pretty sure you had already told me you had stopped smoking, but that’s why I included the bit about it takes 3 years to undue the damage it has done. you hadn’t been cig free for three years. and whether anyone is a chain smoking alcoholic or not , cigarettes and alcohol contribute to elevated stroke risk

I think it’s how you asked the question. because there is enough literature out there, expert after expert say no, trial after trial say no, only anecdotal evidence or political pundits says otherwise. that’s why everything is so politicized because pundits fill people’s heads with bullshit and now something as impartial as a science is now up for “debate.” The scientific method exists to keep shit honest, did the shit work they said it would? can the findings be reproduced and tested? yes? then there is nothing to debate.

All of the side effects associated with any vaccine/medication have to be disclosed because it will be a lot worse for the company if they don’t. Every scientist looking to get their name out there is gunning to be the name that brings down shitty science and snake oil claims.

So, let me ask you again, bro. you’re just asking the question BUT What will it take for you to believe the answer? This wasn’t the vaccine. While you are just asking a question, from my perspective it sounds like you’ve already arrived at your answer. “I got the jab and then I stroked.”

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Results

Approximately 5 million adult Georgians received at least one COVID-19 vaccine between 1 December 2020 and 28 February 2022: 54% received BNT162b2, 41% received mRNA-1273, and 5% received Ad26.COV2.S. Those with concurrent COVID-19 INFECTION within 21 days post-vaccination had an increased risk of ischemic (OR = 8.00, 95% CI: 4.18, 15.31) and hemorrhagic stroke (OR = 5.23, 95% CI: 1.11, 24.64) with NO EVIDENCE for interaction between the vaccine type and concurrent COVID-19 infection. The 21-day post-vaccination incidence of ischemic stroke was 8.14, 11.14, and 10.48 per 100,000 for BNT162b2, mRNA-1273, and Ad26.COV2.S recipients, respectively. After adjusting for age, race, gender, and COVID-19 infection status, there was a 57% higher risk (OR = 1.57, 95% CI: 1.02, 2.42) for ischemic stroke within 21 days of vaccination associated with the Ad26.COV2.S vaccine compared to BNT162b2; there was no difference in stroke risk between mRNA-1273 and BNT162b2.

Conclusion

Concurrent COVID-19 infection had the strongest association with early ischemic and hemorrhagic stroke after the first dose of COVID-19 vaccination. Although not all determinants of stroke, particularly comorbidities, were considered in this analysis, the Ad26.COV2.S (J&J) vaccine was associated with a higher risk of early post-vaccination ischemic stroke than BNT162b2. (Pfizer) [/quote]

Here ya’ go. a medical journal, from the medical community, just hard evidence

Lmao this dork proving once again how naive he can be.

I especially love the self righteous stance he takes after copy n pasting peer reviewed numbers… like coercive citation and reviewer pressure (considering the enormous political shit storm covid was) isn’t possible.

Researchers from trusted institutions aren’t immune to withholding information or tweaking numbers to fit the running narrative.

The shocking truth people like grump havent learned yet is that “trust the science” really translates to “trust the science the current admin allows”.

Also, publication does not equal scientific consensus: a paper finding a correlation does not make it a proven medical fact the opposite is also true.

Now I’m not sitting here saying the vaccines certainly caused stroke (it’s probably not something we’ll ever truly know) but to outright dismiss it and to take fed papers at face value is absolutely fucking retarded!

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I really think it’s kind of crude and shitty to start hurling facts and figures at Gunnar as his reward for posting a (very well written) personal story about his physical ailments. I don’t care what he thinks caused his stroke, you should just congratulate him for being willing to put pen to paper and write all of that for our benefit and move on. Just my $0.02.

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Thank you, Lowelly!

Gunnar, glad you beat the illness and found the strength to carry on with your life.

The truth is strokes can happen at any time, for all sorts of reasons and then some. About 2 years ago, the wife of a friend of mine had one (she was 44) and ended up paralysed on her left side. A life that changes in the blink of an eye. My friend told me that, while dealing with his wife’s situation, he was surprised to find out how many strokes there are among younger people.

So that’s it guys: enjoy life while we’re here, because you never know what tomorrow brings. And if something does happen, follow Gunnar’s good example of perseverance.

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