[url “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR-tr-zkg-E”]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR-tr-zkg-E
15 videos…cool stuff.
Yeah, I already watched that. It’s pretty tight. They paint Ministry’s evolution pretty well.
“You see that guy? That’s Al Jourgensen, he’s my fucking idol”
-Trent Reznor.
yea I took note of that quote.
I didn’t like the 3 three guys who were commenting but the footage was cool.
Just finishing watching all the chapters. It was a pretty good docu up until covering ‘The Downward Spiral’ (round chapter 8 or so). The guys they talked to for the most part were dickheads esp. R Patrick (what a loser!) and that fat guy by the window who talked bollocks the whole way through. But the first few chapters were enjoyable nonetheless. The detailing of PHM was good I thought with the whole “hybrid” understanding. I liked the geographical idea mentioned by Vrenna about the rust belt developing American Industrial, due to the weather (long winters) and the decline in industry of that area. Liked the talk of ‘Happiness in Slavery’ too, easily one of NIN’s best songs. But they made a mess of ‘The Fragile’, skipped many albums and gave too much time to the dickheads when talking about the recent albums (e.g. the “payoff” with ‘Year Zero’, what fuckin pay off!?) It also makes Trent out to be a bit of a cynical, money hungry dick with the last few releases, which may have a shred of validity but I’m not going to be that cynical with him cos I think he’s a decent bloke overall. The docu could have benefited more from detailing other bands throughout the 90s like Ministry, not just writing them off as they did saying they hit a slump with Al’s drug problems.
Despite its obvious flaws the documentary does show however that Trent is one of the most important musicians since the 90s… hell, of all time.
Just finishing watching all the chapters. It was a pretty good docu up until covering ‘The Downward Spiral’ (round chapter 8 or so). The guys they talked to for the most part were dickheads esp. R Patrick (what a loser!) and that fat guy by the window who talked bollocks the whole way through. But the first few chapters were enjoyable nonetheless. The detailing of PHM was good I thought with the whole “hybrid” understanding. I liked the geographical idea mentioned by Vrenna about the rust belt developing American Industrial, due to the weather (long winters) and the decline in industry of that area. Liked the talk of ‘Happiness in Slavery’ too, easily one of NIN’s best songs. But they made a mess of ‘The Fragile’, skipped many albums and gave too much time to the dickheads when talking about the recent albums (e.g. the “payoff” with ‘Year Zero’, what fuckin pay off!?) It also makes Trent out to be a bit of a cynical, money hungry dick with the last few releases, which may have a shred of validity but I’m not going to be that cynical with him cos I think he’s a decent bloke overall. The docu could have benefited more from detailing other bands throughout the 90s like Ministry, not just writing them off as they did saying they hit a slump with Al’s drug problems.
Despite its obvious flaws the documentary does show however that Trent is one of the most important musicians since the 90s… hell, of all time.
I haven’t watched this yet, but I can tell you that from what I’ve seen R.Patrick is a bit of a knob. He hosted RAGE here years ago -first song played was HLAH - he introduces it with something like “shh, dont tell anyone, I was in the original line up of NIN” blah blah blah…
Every interview since is “I Was in NIN you know, yeah Trent sucks, I am great”… I never saw “title of DVD” but apparently some Trent effigy burning goes on…
I dont mind filter but this guy seems a bit obsessed he got kicked out… like Mustaine.
The “Year Zero” payoff thing is a bit odd… he could have easily banged up an easy to sell record and made more money… did YZ do well? He’s released an instrumental album and another independant release which was primarily free (except to suckers like me who brought the disc+dvd). He toured his ass off in the last what 5-6 years, had a good selection of classics and rarities in his sets… I hardly see it as a payoff.
Oh fwiw I love NIN but think Trent is a bit of a douchebag. Seems less so in recent years, but eh… it’s not like I know him just judging based on what we get fed by media etc.
I loved this documentary. I mean, for an unofficial release I thought it was really well done. I posted about it a while back in the movie thread. The dvds got some extra genesis interview which is pretty cool. I thought it was funny when vrenna mentioned the drum beat to closer and saying he wasn’t gonna say the inspiration or where they got the beat. I always thought it was like supposedly a common knowledge thing it was a nigtclubbing by iggy pop/bowie ripoff/homage… maybe i’m wrong
Trent’s openly stated in in at least one interview that he ‘stole’ the opening beat from Nightclubbing from Closer, yeah.
great artiists always steal.
While we’re talking about NIN, was anyone else at the Webster Hall show last night? The band played all of “The Downward Spiral” in its entirety. Amazing. Probably the best show I’ve ever been to. Say what you want about Trent, he knows how to bring the noise.
was not there. always say good things about trent.there are few live shows that actually hit us . i think trent is a good businessman.live shows usually work.well.
The band played all of “The Downward Spiral” in its entirety. Amazing.
That does sound amazing. I am very envious. I would steal money to see TDS in it’s entirety. I fuppin love ‘Eraser’ and ‘Reptile’
While we’re talking about NIN, was anyone else at the Webster Hall show last night? The band played all of “The Downward Spiral” in its entirety. Amazing. Probably the best show I’ve ever been to. Say what you want about Trent, he knows how to bring the noise.
Cool, kinda like what Pink Floyd did with Dark Side Of The Moon. Only I’m sure The Downward Spiral was twice as epic, well not really, but still pretty neat.
i’d have gone just to hear a warm place live.
While we’re talking about NIN, was anyone else at the Webster Hall show last night? The band played all of “The Downward Spiral” in its entirety. Amazing. Probably the best show I’ve ever been to. Say what you want about Trent, he knows how to bring the noise.
Holy shit! Really?! Even the title track?!? Somehow I doubt they played EVERY song from the album. Like even “Big Man With a Gun”, “Ruiner”, “I Do Not Want This” and the instrumentals?
Yeah, they played EVERYTHING. I didn’t think they would, but sure enough, we got to hear everything, even “Big Man With A Gun.”
yeah, they also played “the downward spiral” (the TRACK) couple of times before in recent tours or so…
so yeah… it must’ve been cool, whole album
Damn, that’s really sweet to have the whole album played for the first time ever. I suspect they’ll repeat this is in LA, let’s hope they can get that one videotaped. Personally I hope some sort of ultra-deluxe multi-disc live boxed set comes out of this and NINJA tour.
Yeah the ultra box set thingy would be great… except that it would probably cost like $1109.87 be limited to 10 copies and have Trents name signed in blood and cum on the front.
Question- does TR own his own material? I remember some artist had in their contract that they owned their own masters - not the label… but can’t remember if it was TR or some other mob… I was just pondering the legalities of him releasing stuff with Interscope/nothing material… suppose he would just torrent it anyway lol.
I got this secret wish tomarrow night, since it’s the last show in NYC, and i’ll be there, and bowie lives in NYC, that he’ll have him on stage to do I’m affraid of americans…
yeah i know, it’s a real pipedream.
and i SHOULD lay off the crackpipe
It’s not that far out a dream… I mean it’s not like they haven’t worked or played together before… if he’s in town at the time, even possibly going to the last NIN show seeing as they are old buds etc… anything could happen.
I expect a full report after the show 'Spam!