Songfacts

things like “my eyes were one inch thick” and “of course I scared…I shoot!”, “Jeddy (Jerry) get broom!” and the immortal “dance, drink, sweat” which is how he described the success of Club 950.

If you ever get back into music, your first song should be called “Dance, Drink, Sweat”.

[reply]was’nt crumbs about mikey? after the whole wal-mart guitar case thing and al feeling he ratted on him for a lesser charge

wal-mart?

may i ask for an explanation? haha.[/reply]

This is a hilarious story, I believe it comes from the memoirs of that session bassist guy from Revco or something, I forgot his name but he eventually hooked up with Al’s ex-wife??

Either way, the story is that Mikey was in Wal-mart with a bag of heroin and the police busted him because he looked very similar to a serial killer that was on the loose at the time. Scared of the whole serial-killer allegations, he said the heroin was Al’s.

HAHA!!! It’s been so long since that bust I can’t remember any of the details (other than Mikey got busted and had heroin in his guitar case).

I think it was probably one of the magazines that had the article where Al talked about it. There was one called “Alternative Press” or Alternative-something-or-other. I don’t know if it’s the same one, but I remember for a long time having one with Al on the cover in his sunglasses and cowboy hat.

He also talks about being loaded and showing up to some music panel discussion or something and sitting next to Beck. He didn’t know who he was and thought he was Jeff Beck’s kid and started telling him how great his dad was while Beck just sat there and crapped his pants while Al scared him to death.

HAHA!!! It’s been so long since that bust I can’t remember any of the details (other than Mikey got busted and had heroin in his guitar case).

I think it was probably one of the magazines that had the article where Al talked about it. There was one called “Alternative Press” or Alternative-something-or-other. I don’t know if it’s the same one, but I remember for a long time having one with Al on the cover in his sunglasses and cowboy hat.

WOW! HAHA!

He also talks about being loaded and showing up to some music panel discussion or something and sitting next to Beck. He didn’t know who he was and thought he was Jeff Beck’s kid and started telling him how great his dad was while Beck just sat there and crapped his pants while Al scared him to death.

yeah, i was really surprised to see mikey back with them in '03 because of that. it was what inspired the story of TV3, surprised me that everyone here thought the song needed lyrics, if you follow the samples it tells the story…al having sex cops bust in they only find a’lil dope and rigs al was’nt gonna talk…my thoughts is that it’s called crumbs because of al kind of running shit then (from stories here/en esch etc.) and that’s what mikey got…was al’s leftovers…crumbs in drugs and life. at the time i’m glad they still work together he’s my fav part of classic ministry besides paul/bill

Putting this thread back on Ministry how about ‘Happy Dust’? If there ever was a Buck Satan album released that sounded all like this track then my faith in Al would be restored. Not holding my breath though.

I’d say it’s more likely that “Happy Dust” is a sample of the direction Ministry planned to go in with the “ambient” record they were making that was scrapped before ‘Dark Side of the Spoon’

You are probably right as it doesn’t really fit in with anything else released from that time period.

I’d be inclined to agree with Voidhead regarding ‘Happy Dust’. The Buck Satan song that they used when entering the stage in '03 was very much a country song and couple that with the ‘Friend of Mine’ song I think the intention for Buck Satan was for them to be very much a country band as opposed to being an industrial band with a country twang. But that’s just surmising. And as much as I wanted a Buck Satan album the way Al has been for the last few years I don’t want it now, unless the material was made years before and just needs to be released.

Song names for buck satan have been in interviews since '96 names like ‘tonite the needle let me down’ ‘2,6,5,9=1’ (two people six inchs five min. equals one person) that’s all i can remember if annything you’d think that would have been the first post-ministry thing to come out. Though those song names don’t seem to fit current al anymore.

13th Planet will probably release a “Buck Satan” CD. It’ll consist of a couple guys from Slipknot and Static X with some Ovation guitars singing about burritos and buttrubs.

I was gonna say he’d use the same 5 guys that are on EVERY 13th Planet band, but I guess that isn’t in the cards now, is it?

Thought I’d post this little bit here if anyone’s interested. Kind of gives a highlight into the state of the band around ‘Animositisomina’ :

gibbsy@post.cz (John Marshall Gibbs)

Hi Mark,
Just read your interview with Al Jourgensen. Very cool.

I met Al on a four hour train ride in July 2003 during Ministry’s European tour…a combination of luck and timing.

ME:“Hey, are you in a band or something?”

AL:“Yeah. Ministry…”

We talked for the whole trip. I got his whole life story. He liked me cause I had no idea who they were, though I had heard the name.

He invited me to see a show, I went backstage blah blah blah…and this led to me jamming with them at Sonic Ranch studios outside of El Paso a few months later.

Wow, he’s off heroin, but man, can he drink red wine ! He reeked of patchouli, red wine and cigarettes. Really irritated most of the time when I was there. Everything seemed to get on his nerves. He wore the boots…always!

He could be a nice guy…or a cranky tormented genius.

The head of the cleaning staff was on sick leave and her daughter took over for her…so the whole studio complex was a little messy.

The one thing I could say is “what a bunch of babies.” Really spoiled, really weird…

We used the same towels for a week…I made a joke about saving Paul from using dirty towels.

AL flipped out at me for suggesting to Paul Barker that I had “dibs on the towels”–this set Al off completely. “You ain’t got dibs on NOTHIN’! We’re Ministry and we paid for all of this!” rah rah rah etc.

Paul arrived with a truck full of equipment from Chicago…he shared the same bathroom as my girlfirend and I.

Al was mixing and remixing every day for a German band (Soil), scrapping the results every time… He really hated it…and was only getting paid 10,000 dollars for the job…I couldn’t understand why he abused himself like that. He hated that music.

I was thinking I would get in the band, but I bailed out. Al was too erratic for me to handle…too much like the worst sides of my own personality. I left the studio.

Incindentally, Paul was great, really down to earth. He told me Ministry is “a sinking ship” and if I wanted to get on, I should be aware of what was going down. I played him some of my music. He was impressed with my voice, saying I could be the next Robbie Williams (YUK! Is that a COMPLIMENT?).

Angie was a total space case (also an ex-junkie…a marriage made in heaven)…“Al’s trying to MANIFEST soemthing right now…”

What can I say? Al pissed me off!

But at his best, he could really make me laugh…what a sense of humor when he’s in a good mood.

And I still love the music.

Alot more happened, good falafels with their engineer Justin J. Leeah, fattening burritos and other Mexican food…running out of water when the studio owner Tony left for a pecan convention…what a weird world they live in !

More details are going on my webpage.

Thankyou, and GOD BLESS AMERICA :wink:

Yeah I’ve read those comments before from John, pretty interesting from an outsider’s standpoint. I looked at his website once, and it only vaguely refers to his short time with Ministry.

Where can I find that webpage that that dude referred to? I remember reading that on the PissArmy about 6 years ago and Angie flipped out on him. To be honest, I didn’t know what to make of it all. It just kind of read like a guy who crashed at someone else’s place for a while and acted like a primadonna.

Got a problem with the place being messy? Help clean it! Don’t want a dirty towel? Do some laundry, Jackass!!

If some d-bag stayed at my place for a month and then complained about it I’d be pissed too.

Yeah, IIRC correctly the other side of the story is that this guy just sort of showed up and started hanging around.
Never tell someone you just met “You should come over and hang out sometime” because they often will.

Here’s another good illustration of this principle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgOqcH1Ywzs

Is it true that Al quit heroin after he had a needle driven so deep into his arm he had to cut his arm open with a razor blade and get it out?

Official story is the spider bite that almost caused him to lose his arm. That would be a bit surreal. Who knows though? Judging on his take and possession of the With Sympathy masters and so on, who knows? Can’t really think of a time where Al was truly honest.

Al had pictures posted of the supposed spider bite incident and it seemed pretty legit. All the other stories . . . I’d say maybe 1/2 of them sound like they’re true and the other half have been turbo-charged to make them more exciting.

Personally, I think anyone that takes his story about the roadie that humped the ostrich as anything but total bullcrap is retarded.

Never tell someone you just met “You should come over and hang out sometime” because they often will.

That advice is golden.

the needle in the arm thing happens alot from what i hear. He lost the toe from stepping on an old point and getting an infection

“Come on then luv, drop 'em”

Classic.