And the republicans dont want Obama to appoint anyone. What a joke. About time the leading activist judge is off the court. Im sorry he went out like this. I woulda peferred he just retired. But thankfully unions have a shot now in june.
You’re a lot more benign than me… given my druthers, I’d have Rasputined the motherfucker.
You’re a lot more benign than me… given my druthers, I’d have Rasputined the motherfucker.
Yeah, I’ve seen a lot of that on the net. Don’t get me wrong, I’m excited that guy is off the court, but I find it very distasteful to celebrate the guy’s death. I think that is beyond rude and goes to show how fucked our country is, That we can dance and cheer that someone with whom we have a difference of opinion with is dead. Even Repubican’s were saddened when Kennedy was killed. I don’t think that would be the case for either side if some polarizing figure were killed today.
Glad this happened. Lets see how stupid the Reps will be to hold off and play with the lives of Americans.
Lets see how stupid the Reps will be to hold off and play with the lives of Americans.
Oh, Mitch mcconnell has already said he will block anybody and everybody obama puts up. And because of that reason i think obama should make a recess appointment and give those crusty ol’ fuckers the finger. The arrogance of the repubs to suggest that he NOT do his job and not appoint someone because they think theyre gonna win the white house is is astounding. Stupid Mitch keeps saying “let the people decide.” yeah, the people did decid when they elected obama to a second term.
Everyone loves our US Constitution . . . unless it might work in someone else’s favor . . . in which case, they’d like to just ignore it . . .
The system works fine as far as I’m concerned.
I’m not a Republican or a Democrat. They can all get f**ked. As for the Supreme Court . . . they’re all sincere people with convictions and led by their values and they THINK that those convictions and values which they use to guide their interpretation of the US Constitution are what will be best for the country.
I agree with Grumps. Celebrating the death of someone just because they disagree politically, religiously, or along the lines of some other dogma is creepy.
Charles Schumer one of those decrying Republican attempts to stonewall any Obama nominee to SCOTUS stated in 2007 that “With respect to the Supreme Court at least, I will recommend to my colleagues that we should not confirm any Bush nominee to the Supreme Court except in extraordinary circumstances”.
You think the republican majority whip saying that and a democrat foot soldier saying it are the same thing? Schumer didn’t/doesn’t have the position or the power within his party that McConnell has within his.
Making a recess appointment out of spite is stupid and incredibly divisive.
Riiiight, “out of spite.” And coming right out and saying they will not approve anyone he nominates is the exact opposite of stupid and divisive. The republicans have blocked everything he has tried to do. Its quite clear they have no interest in working with him. Bypass them not out of spite, out of progress.
One way to help ameliorate this issue would be to eliminate federal judges seated for life. Perhaps 10 years is sufficient with a staggered term for SCOTUS so all 9 Justices aren’t replaced all at once.
Ive seen an article or two on this and i think rubio said something about it on stage at the repub “debate” a couple days ago. Good idea i suppose if you wanna make the court as ineffective as everything else. With the partisan hacks no one would ever get appointed.
Vanity is dead too…damn she used to be hot…
You are hopeless grmps. If a Democrat shits something out it is automatically good. If a Republican says/does anything it’s automatically stupid/bad/ignorant/partisan. No mater what.
Right, cause that is exactly what I wrote. [rolleyes] Talk about hopeless, you need to practice your comprehension skills on lower level reading that way you don’t come so ill prepared on the higher level writings.
You complain about ideological judges being there forever however the whole nomination process is partisan. That’s what politics are. Duh. I don’t like judges there forever either. I offered a reasonable solution to the problem. You were free to offer another solution. Instead you simply chose to complain and bitch about it.
I didn’t complain about judges being there forever. I just said I was happy he was off the court, and then offered that I had seen your proposal before. My first response about reading comprehension stills holds
[reply][reply]You are hopeless grmps. If a Democrat shits something out it is automatically good. If a Republican says/does anything it’s automatically stupid/bad/ignorant/partisan. No mater what.
Right, cause that is exactly what I wrote. [rolleyes] Talk about hopeless, you need to practice your comprehension skills on lower level reading that way you don’t come so ill prepared on the higher level writings.
You complain about ideological judges being there forever however the whole nomination process is partisan. That’s what politics are. Duh. I don’t like judges there forever either. I offered a reasonable solution to the problem. You were free to offer another solution. Instead you simply chose to complain and bitch about it.
I didn’t complain about judges being there forever. I just said I was happy he was off the court, and then offered that I had seen your proposal before. My first response about reading comprehension stills holds[/reply]
Your sole exception is that I said it. Once again, if a Democrat shits out some nonsense, it’s automatically great. If a republican, or me, or perhaps DJ says something it’s stupid, should be ridiculed and not worth consideration. Your track record is well documented. Beyond that enjoy your thread.[/reply]
So you’re changing the subject? Ok, i guess, seeing how you can never stay on topic for anything else.
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So you’re changing the subject? Ok, i guess, seeing how you can never stay on topic for anything else.
I bore easily with angry ranting. To me, it’s just another internet loudmouth on interwebs full of them. Why bother?
You could have simply replied with why you think the current system, or perhaps proposed one, is better than a 10 year staggered term for Justices that I brought up. Instead you simply complained. It’s boring.[/reply]
Who was ranting? I didn’t once complain about that process. Like a normal Hard righter, you make everything about yourself. You complained about the life appointment not me. I merely pointed out that I had read an article on the idea and thought perhaps Rubio suggested something similar at the debate. (didn’t even reply to “your” idea) Other than pointing out that obstructionism would become more frequent (without taking sides, that time) when appointing justices, I gave no opinion. There was no angry ranting, no loudmouthing. I’m fine with how it is now. but I didn’t dismiss you because YOU suggested it here. I didn’t even dismiss it, just pointed out that obstructionism would be more frequent.
As far as disagreeing with you on everything else “just because it’s you” sounds like what you do to me. I have no problem agreeing with you if you have something thoughtful to say. Same could be said for the republican party. Seeing Kasich take 2nd gives me hope for the republican party that perhaps respectability and decency can be brought back to that party. but seeing the fascist take first over everyone doesn’t give me MUCH hope.
I don’t really pay much attention to the republican clown car though Kasich does have a bit more decorum than Cruz or The Donald.
That is seriously a low bar to get over. I like Kasich. I will never vote for him, but I like his demeanor. Well, let me walk that back a bit, if the general election is between Clinton and Kasich I may give Kasich the vote. It’s very clear that Clinton is bought off at this point at least I can feel decent about electing somebody who hasn’t been bought as badly as Clinton. I like that he conducts himself with respect and refuses to let himself be pulled into the petty bullshit on the campaign trail. (Although, he did stumble a bit on his “YaY, I’m#2” speech)
I may have posted it here on this forum already, but I find that the only two people that actually give a shit about the country and are not up there for their own personal gain are Sanders and Kasich. And as I said I’m not voting for Kasich but I do have to respect his run.
I do find it interesting and somewhat amusing that Sanders is doing so well.
I don’t at all. Bernie has tapped into the anger and disappointment of the democratic base. He’s genuine, he has charisma, and most of all he represents an actual progressive agenda. Until Bernie came along Hilary could pass as a liberal, But now the Sanders’ campaign is calling her out on her business as usual bullshit. Hillary belongs on the republican debate stage with the other conservatives as far as I’m concerned.
I don’t think half the people supporting Sanders even care if his promises get passed. The fact that he’s the only one addressing these things is already a win. wall Street is a problem, banking system is a problem, health care is still a problem (although slightly better than it was), Student loans are a problem, Shitty jobs for shitty pay is still a problem and he refuses to leave it as “good enough” and call that “fixed.” Where everyone else wants to sugar coat it. People aren’t looking for free shit. They want opportunity. Watch the Carrier employs get the news their jobs are going to Mexico. They don’t want free shit, they want their jobs.
I mean a guy who is a socialist and technically not even part of the democratic party is giving Clinton fits.
Oh, don’t be that guy! Sanders is not a socialist. He’s just taking the word back. calling himself that before the right has a chance to do so lessens the sting. I suppose Bernie is “socialist” compared to the “capitalists” on the repub stage but not in any other real capacity.
I also find it interesting and somewhat amusing though equally alarming is that either Sanders or Trump could one day be president.
Trump Alarms me because his campaign is run on hate and fear and a ton of people are prejudiced enough to believe what he’s selling. Bernie inspires me because corporate America has been fucking over the middle class for years. Bernie is trying to take it back. Feel the burn!!
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Trump Alarms me because his campaign is run on hate and fear and a ton of people are prejudiced enough to believe what he’s selling. Bernie inspires me because corporate America has been fucking over the middle class for years. Bernie is trying to take it back. Feel the burn!!
I won’t vote for Trump, or Clinton or Republican or Democrat for that matter. There are too many third parties around and I’m voting for one of them. I can guarantee it won’t be Republican or Democrat.
I have to admit, I do like Sanders, though I don’t agree with his policies. He’s a crusty old curmudgeon but he has been pretty consistent in his views. I can respect that and I feel the Bern. The fact that he’s got Clinton completely flummoxed is great. I’m truly enjoying that. Aside from her ethical and legal troubles, she is trying to out left Sanders. You aren’t going to left flank Bernie.
Sanders has been calling himself a socialist for decades. It’s not new as far as I can tell. I just wonder how the DNC allowed Bernie to run under the Democrat banner? As far as Republican’s being “capitalist”, they aren’t. At least not in the traditional economic sense anyway. Crony Capitalist perhaps.
Clinton will be extremely lucky she doesn’t get the perp walk. Petraeus was indicted for far, far less egregious actions. I also wouldn’t mind Golden Slacks paying me $250,000 for no apparent reason other than to here me yack. I imagine it’s a great gig if you can get it.
One really interesting thing, at least I think it interesting, is that it appears we are witnessing the concurrent demise of the two great political houses of our time - the house of Bush and the house of Clinton. And not a moment too soon.[/reply]
I like this prologue I can agree with… But not completely, I like Bernie’s policies.
Bernie was probably allowed to run as a Dem because he caucuses with the democrats in the Senate. He even founded the Congressional Progressive Caucus.
I’ve never really had an opinion on Mrs. Clinton (other than “she’s better than any republican.”), She’s always just been “whatever” to me, but her campaign and her behavior at debates is down right disgusting. Her whole stump speech may as well be her jumping up and down tantrum screaming "IT’S MY TURN! IT’S MY TURN!"I was already to Vote for her too until an actual progressive showed up! Now she’s just pitiful and Bernie casts her in the conservative light where she belongs. Sadly, she IS what a progressive looked like up until now. Thankfully Bernie has shown up and reset the bar.
The desperation runs off her like sweat. It’s not very appealing.
Her Email scandal doesn’t bother that much because again “whatever.” Also, I don’t know how true it is, but supposedly the emails that are “classified” were done so retroactively, which is bullshit if it’s true.What makes them classified now? if they weren’t classified then they shouldn’t “turn” Classified later. It just sounds like someone is playing politics. However, if they were classified the whole time… that’s a whole nother thing But I agree with you if she steers clear of indictment it will be not a miracle but some scooter libby type back scratching.
The reports coming out about Clinton and her speeches apparently are really damning to her claims about telling wall st. to “knock it off.”
When Anderson Cooper asked her if she would release her speech transcript and she hmmed and hawwed before saying “maybe” should’ve been the end of her campaign, if you ask me. And now she is saying she will release her speeches when when everyone else will. What bullshit, nobody else is running for president. so, that is just the weakest excuse ever. She knows she’s done for if she releases them. Just like Romney not releasing his Taxes showing he paid none. It’s certain Campaign death.
Thought I’d weigh in here. Lifelong Democrat left-wing liberal pinko. I desperately want Sanders to become the next President of the United States, but I’m not an idiot. This country will never allow a Jew to be President. There are whole tracts of undivided voters, enough to fill every football stadium in the country, who will be knocked off the fence into Republican-land (whoever it’s being represented by in November) by sheer dint of Sanders’ Judaism. This is coming from a fully aware “confused agnostic” who was raised Jewish.
Which leaves Hillary as my best hope that the Republicans won’t win the election. I don’t like Hillary for a number of reasons, most of which aren’t as obvious as the e-mail crisis or Benghazi. My problem with Hillary is that I don’t think a Republican Congress will cooperate with her. They didn’t cooperate with Obama for 8 years because of the color of his skin. They’re definitely not going to cooperate with a woman… let alone a woman married to their mortal enemy, he of the Russian hands and Roman fingers, MC Bill Clinton.
So, uh, go Hillary, I guess. sigh If you don’t laugh, you’ll scream.
. My problem with Hillary is that I don’t think a Republican Congress will cooperate with her. They didn’t cooperate with Obama for 8 years because of the color of his skin.
You don’t think it possible that perhaps some folks just don’t agree with Obama’s policies? I could give a crap about what he looks like, where he is from, whether he is citizen or if he is a Muslim or not. However, I think his policies are not so good. Painting an entire party as wholly racist is easy and cheap. You can do better than that.
Republicans don’t cooperate with Democrats because that’s what they do. Democrats don’t cooperate with Republicans because that’s what they do. It’s called politics. I’m not saying it’s right or it’s good behavior but neither party will cooperate willingly with the other. At least in today’s political climate anyway. Why do you think congress has an approval rating of something like 13%? It’s certainly not because they doing good work.
I like this prologue I can agree with… But not completely, I like
A thoughtful comment will generally get a thoughtful comment in return. A blanket snarky comment will get the same. I then get bored very quickly and wonder why I bother. I’m more interested in an interesting conversation than agreement. Once we got over the initial snarkiness, it has been relatively interesting.
While I will at times join a political thread such as this, I don’t actually enjoy politics. What I do enjoy about politics is politicians going to prison. I do enjoy that greatly. Consider where I come from the political corruption is unbelievable and endless. A bit of schadenfreude on my part I suppose.
I desperately want Sanders to become the next President of the United States,
Oh, man, me too. The last 10 years have been strange for me. Obama was the first candidate I ever voted FOR rather than against. So, that was new. But Bernie has taken it to the next level. Bernie is the first candidate I have contributed $$ to his campaign.
but I’m not an idiot. This country will never allow a Jew to be President.
You do know, this isn’t 1950’s over on the south side of town? I think all of the people who won’t vote for a Jew are already voting for Trump. I seriously doubt you’re gonna have very many (if any) liberals, progressives, democrats who aren’t going to vote for Bernie cause he’s Juden.
There are whole tracts of undivided voters, enough to fill every football stadium in the country, who will be knocked off the fence into Republican-land (whoever it’s being represented by in November) by sheer dint of Sanders’ Judaism. This is coming from a fully aware “confused agnostic” who was raised Jewish.
Yeah, I’m gonna have to sorta, go ahead and disagree with ya’ there. As I wrote, I think the only people unwilling to vote for a Jew are already firmly rooted on the Republican side. Remember: Democrats Niggers and Jews, are all held in the same contempt of the intolerant.
Which leaves Hillary as my best hope that the Republicans won’t win the election.
I think you’re selling our man Bernie short. (Also, not paying attention to the general election polls) As he keeps winning caucuses people are going to see he has a shot and then have no hold outs about voting for him. I’'m not sure if you’ve been paying attention, but he may as well have tied Clinton in [strike]Ohio,[/strike] Iowa (fuckin ohio?! what the fuck was i typing?) and that was a state she was supposed to win easily. He demolished her in New Hampshire, and in the span of one week of campaigning in Nevada he has erased a 37 point lead she had. Current poll has him at 47 and Clinton at 48. Also, polls keep showing Hillary can’t beat Trump in a general election, but Poll after Poll shows Bernie beating the entire Republican field in a general election. I think dems want to vote for Bernie but think like you and don’t want to waste their vote. As Bernie keeps doing well you’ll get the confidence along with a lot of other people that it wont be a wasted vote.
My problem with Hillary is that I don’t think a Republican Congress will cooperate with her.
Unfortunately Prologue is right. Congress won’t work with her because she is democrat and a Clinton, her gender, I think, has very little to do with it.
They didn’t cooperate with Obama for 8 years because of the color of his skin.
I’m gonna agree with prologue again here. For some in congress (probably far more than there should be) his skin color certainly is a problem but I think Prologue’s right, the resistance has more to do with the (D) that shows up next to his name.
So, uh, go Hillary, I guess. sigh If you don’t laugh, you’ll scream.
Yeah, “go Hillary”… and drop out because ultimately everybody wants to feel the Bern and as voters come out of the woodwork to support him, she will have no choice but to drop out. Wishfully thinking, sooner than later but that probably won’t happen
Republicans don’t cooperate with Democrats because that’s what they do. Democrats don’t cooperate with Republicans because that’s what they do.
Ummmmmm, Yeeeeeaaaaaaaah, I’m gonna go ahead and disagree with you on this one. Obama had super majority for the the first 2 years of his presidency and didn’t use it. Obama attempted to work with people that had no interest in negotiating with him. As far as I’m concerned that puts the partisan bullshit squarely on the republicans. (most recently that is. I do know Democrats have party lined a bunch of shit too, especially when W was in office)