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Hahahaha holy shit what the fuck kind of weed are you guys smoking?!?

Seriously this shit is new to me I’ve NEVER seen anyone freak out like that except this one girl.

I think people who are uptight in general might have problems with it I suppose though…and minor paranoia is to be expected.

I think there’s probably a little more to it than being ‘uptight’. The reality is that pot can, and has been known to, trigger severe emotional disorders in people. Why? Who knows. I don’t think there have been any recent breakthroughs in this area. I guess until there are it would be unwise to completely ignore these warnings.

And generally, when I’ve had severe panic attacks after smoking, the weed was bought off friends who grow their own - and they sure as hell ain’t gonna ‘lace’ my freakin’ pot. How often is pot laced anyway??

I saw on 60 minutes, a doco about some ‘super strain’ of marijuana that was now being grown and sold. Anyone here know what I’m talking about or tried it?

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I think there’s probably a little more to it than being ‘uptight’. The reality is that pot can, and has been known to, trigger severe emotional disorders in people.

I agree.

Drugs is also a form of self-medication. After all, you don’t really need pot, but some need it every day.

I find the same for cigarettes. Next time you see a heavy smoker, watch them. They are usually smoking because of other reasons - ie. lack of confidence, anxiety, depression, etc. When I quit smoking cigs, I was afraid I couldn’t because of certain reasons like that, but everything worked out fine.

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i feel you Afra. Everyone has a crutch. Mind is Music. Yeah I’m addicted to music.

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Alright, I absolutely stand corrected on the paranoia issue - apologies all around. I’m certainly no expert on the subject, but I’ve done more than my share of research on it - it’s true I did my share of stupid shit as a “kid,” but I wised the hell up around 15/16, and began to seriously look at what I was putting in my body. Because of this (and the fact that where I live marijuana is the #1 cash crop) I felt fairly confident that I had an at least reasonable knowledge of that particular drug…the only one I’ll even do anymore.
However, after looking up what I could on the subject of weed and random “mental outbursts” (their words, not mine!) I was verily surprised to find a glut of information available. It appears that this is a true phenomenon, and as I suspected is caused by a variance in the brain chemistry of the user. No one seems to actually know the precise reasons why this occurs, but it is documented - I’m more surprised than anyone that I was unaware of this. I mean…DAMN. Here I thought I was the weed expert! Anyway, I wasn’t trying to hurt anyone’s feelings, but I swear I thought some of you just got fucked by your dealers. Speaking of mental outbursts, who knows why they do the things they do sometimes…
And to whomever else here went through the heroin thing, I’m glad you’re okay now. I don’t try to say shit like “well, I was an addict!” to try and impress anyone, by any means. Truth be told, I’m embarassed as shit about it. I’m just glad to still be here, typing some shit about drugs and blahblahblah on a website instead of nodding off listening to FilthPig on repeat.
P.S. Afra - glad to hear you’re doing well with laying off the cigs…I think that’s to be my next project, so wish me luck. Hopefully I won’t strangle some motherfuckers at my work when I start to get jittery! Hard dope is one thing to kick, but tobacco is the DEBBIL!

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hmm, i would like to ask the most experienced dudes here the following - what ministry album correlate to which drug? i.e. filth pig = heroin or something like that. since i’ve tried only weed and dxm i can’t really say which drug “represents” certain minstry album. :slight_smile:

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hmm, i would like to ask the most experienced dudes here the following - what ministry album correlate to which drug? i.e. filth pig = heroin or something like that. since i’ve tried only weed and dxm i can’t really say which drug “represents” certain minstry album. :slight_smile:

Hmm this is a cool idea but pointless…

The only drugs that we know Al was really into were Heroine and perhaps Acid (he lived with Timothy Leary at some point). As for Paul Barker, he has said in interviews that he experimented with drugs frequently but never Heroine as far as I can understand…

But if I absolutely had to match Ministry’s albums with certain drugs it would be something like this:

Land of Rape and Honey -

Weed (this album just has a very exploratory feel to it and it kind of goes in many directions and is very creative…has sort of a stoned vibe to it if that makes sense)

Filth Pig -

Mushrooms (although Filth Pig deals with heroine addiction it has a picture of a psilocybin mushroom on the inside cover. I’m convinced that mushrooms were a large part in the making of this beast. Trust me, I listened to it on shrooms and it totally seemed to make sense in that light)

The Dark Side of the Spoon -

Heroine (THIS is the Ministry album that pertains to heroine more than any other. Songs are drugged out with bizarre instrumentation and even more bizarre lyrics. Uncle Al sounds like a drugged out lunatic. The album as a whole seems sedated. Plus the title is obviously a reference to Al’s heroine problem)

The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste -

Speed/Cocaine

(These albums just explodes with energy and it is perfect for a cocaine binge or some other upper that makes you want to rock out)

Psalm 69 -

Alcohol

(Songs like “Jesus Built My Hotrod” have drunk written all over them. The energy is here but also a musical accessibility that people tend to appreciate most when they’re drunk)

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heh cool :slight_smile:

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Getting back to the weed paranoia thing, Marijuana, as far as I know, is both a psychoactive drug AND a stimulant. The effects of which vary greatly from person to person. Personally, I won’t smoke anymore due to the increased heart rate which freaks me out too much to enjoy any mental effects of being high. I like the way the brain processes information to some extent, but unfortunately it makes it impossible to enjoy if you’re freaking out about your heart exploding and the police or whatever else may be causing you worry. I also accept that different aspects of being stoned cause different people to experience different degrees of these effects. Just not the drug for some people.

edit: oh yeah, pack to 2 packs of cigarettes a day BTW.

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I smoke probably between 10 and 20 ciggies a day.

Can’t see myself quitting really. Been a smoker since I was seventeen and I’m now 31. It doesn’t bother me…health warnings or no, I’ll still do it. I mean, lots of things are bad for you.

Don’t really ‘drug up’ though. Apart from magic mushrooms now and then, that is.

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HAHA!!! Cloves, whoa! There’s some memories for me. That was the thing to do in High School. I loved how they stunk the world up within a 10 mile radius and the way it would crackle and pop when you were taking a drag.

I remember there were reports and such at the time about kids coughing up blood. HAHA!!! Yeah, whatever. Sounded like bullcrap to me.

Then I started coughing up blood.

I’m not a regular smoker, but I enjoy it. I like to smoke if I’m at parties or drinking at a bar or something. And I enjoy having a smoke after a nice dinner. I never smoke when I’m at home (not even away from the home). But when I’m on travel I often have international clients that smoke all the time and it is often a normal part of business transactions.

I enjoy shisha (hookah) as well and smoke it quite often in the Middle East. I brought a hookah home with me about a year ago. I put it together set everything up and had a bastard of a time getting the coal lit. Put it away and never took it out again.

I’ve not touched pot in over 13 years and those guys talking about “bad trips”, “paranoia”, and so forth . . . yes, they know what they’re talking about.

Oh, I love smoking cigarettes in Vegas too.

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Holy Jesus. Thread bump from Hell.

But it’s a great topic. [:)]

I smoke. A lot more than I oughta, but as I haven’t touched any other drugs in almost five years, I think that’s aight.

I used to be a big pot smoker. Then the day of my high school graduation, I had kind of an epiphany involving what I can attribute to uncontrolled time-travel.

Anyone ever been playing a VCR and just fucked with the fast-forward, rewind, and frame-by-frame buttons?

Due to a combination of weed, Hypnotiq (which is the most dangerous liquor out there, girlyness be damned), and a prescription medication I had no idea would react so violently with the other two, all the above happened AT ONCE with ALL of my senses, to the point where I just wound up rocking back and forth in my cousin’s bedroom, autistic-status, for like eight hours.

Fast-forward a week later, in a huge circle, I declined my hit and just decided to knock it off. Been off everything but tobacco and alcohol ever since.

Didn’t have my first cigarette till I was seventeen. A fourteen-year-old girl offered me one, and I accepted as to not look like a bitch and impress her. No one told me that you weren’t supposed to hit a cigarette like a joint, though, and I wound up puking my guts out.

Nowadays, I’m a Marlboro man. Either reds, 27s or 54s. Can’t smoke full menthols anymore, as I smoked nothing but for about two years and WRECKED my already fucked-up esophagus something fierce.

I usually take about a week, maybe two, to go through a pack, unless I’m drinking heavily with other people that smoke, when I’ll practically mainline a pack like it wasn’t nothin’.

I’ve had more reasons than I care about to quit the habit, namely in the form of so many friends and family dying of throat/lung cancer, including all but one grandparent, but you know what? I’m a nervous fucking wreck half the time, and cigarettes are WAY cheaper than Xanax.

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I’ve had more reasons than I care about to quit the habit, namely in the form of so many friends and family dying of throat/lung cancer, including all but one grandparent, but you know what? I’m a nervous fucking wreck half the time, and cigarettes are WAY cheaper than Xanax.

The cost fully depends on whether or not a person has insurance, what their plan charges for Rx, and the long-term effects of smoking vs. Rx use. $4.00 for 30 tablets vs. $4.00 for 20 cigarettes.

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I’m uninsured, and don’t see insurance happening anytime soon. I’ve got about thirty or so tabs collecting dust on my desk right now that I haven’t and WILL NOT touch because as crazy as I am half the time, I think my friends and family would rather have a bipolar, tempermental, manic-depressive Icepick than a pathetic, normalized, leveled-out one.

It’s a choice as much as a curse. Fuck it. I’m drunk. Life is good.

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I’m down to around 2 - 3 cigarettes a day and about 2 - 4 joints a week. Although quite often I will go for around 10 days without touching pot once.

Alcohol - need to try and cut down on this. Especially since I live alone. And drinking alone - as we all know - is not good. Usually I will have 2 beers (Corona with lemon) after dinner and one mixer drink. Then at about 11pm I’ll have a nightcap or two (usually a Baileys shot or something along those lines). Some nights though I’ll have double that. By 10pm i’m sometimes on my fourth Corona (goes down well with a bowl of chili flavoured nuts).

That’s something I’ll need to monitor, as I don’t want it getting any heavier than that.

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I drink one or two beers almost every night. I’m obsessed with beer. Not in the alcoholic sense. I’m just totally obsessed with beer . . . trying as many types as I can and searching for the ultimate beer. I sip it and meditate on it then I write my reviews on it so I can remember about it later. When I get “into” something I tend to get way too into it.

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Word. I fucking love beer.

My top three thus far are probably Negra Modelo, Old Rasputin, and the Yak & Yeti’s Himalayan IPA. FACK.

Beer kicks ass. It’s a meal and a bonding experience all in one.

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Word. I fucking love beer.

My top three thus far are probably Negra Modelo, Old Rasputin, and the Yak & Yeti’s Himalayan IPA. FACK.

Thanks. Negra Modelo and Bohemia are my two go to Mexican beers, and Rasputin is great. It’s a heck of a deal in CA. I can get a 4-Pack for like $5.60 at my booze store.

I’ve not tried any of the Yetis, but they are quite plentiful at the store I frequent so I’ll pick that one up next time.

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A four pack of Rasputin will annihilate two people if the circumstances are right.

Fuck this thread. I need a beer and some smokage.

[laugh]

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Yeah, 9% ABV, Baby!

If you like stouts see if you can find this one anywhere. So good your face will melt.

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That looks both evil and very erotic. I’m tempted.

I like my beer like I like my chicks. Either short, pale and cute, or tall, dark and NASTY.