Smokers?

I try not to smoke ciggs. Normally I dont unless someone has one, but normally its like once or twice a week i have a cigg. i love me some menthols. weed is my main thing, ive done just about every drug possible though except for mushrooms and pcp. weed is just… good clean fun, no hangovers or needing your fix five minutes later and crap, much safer than most things legal.

[reply]Jesus a smoking topic. Anyone who smokes cigarettes beyond the age of 15 is a bit sad. I started smoking when I was 12 and I had realised how sad it was when I was 13.

so you quit - what, last year?[/reply]

No, 1999 …

I try not to smoke ciggs. Normally I dont unless someone has one, but normally its like once or twice a week i have a cigg. i love me some menthols. weed is my main thing, ive done just about every drug possible though except for mushrooms and pcp. weed is just… good clean fun, no hangovers or needing your fix five minutes later and crap, much safer than most things legal.

Hmm interesting. I meet a lot of people these days who say they’ve tried acid but never shrooms. I just don’t get it.

I would never have thought of doing acid until after I had already done shrooms.

On a side note a bassist I was jamming with for awhile recently dropped acid and had a 2 day trip. By the end of it he went temporarily insane and he ended up in a psych ward at some local hospital. He got expelled from our university and is now back at home with a day job appealing to be readmitted into Syracuse.

As for PCP, I recommend it highly, but it’s gotta be a spontaneous situation. When I did it I was already really drunk and we just had a wild time (although I did lose my cellphone and was driving a car which was a VERY bad idea)

The only way I could describe it is that I had extreme tunnel vision and everything around me seemed to move at hyperspeed while I was in slow motion. I also got a burst of energy from it.

I was blasting Ministry’s “WTV” as a matter of fact as we drove around at incredible speeds and this girl in the back seat started crying her eyes out.

Anyway, here are the drugs I have known and loved:

Nicotine
Alcohol
Marijuanna
Cocaine
Mushrooms
PCP (Angeldust)
Salvia

Vicadin
Percoset
Valium
Aderol
Ritalin
Xanax
Ambien
Seraquil

A list of what I’ve done would be ridiculously long…I’m of the “I’ll try anything once” school of thought. To be honest, I don’t even know some of the shit I’ve taken…
I can tell you this, however - PCP + Driving = BAD! Bad boy! Slaps wrist At least you realized it, though.
I don’t know that I’ll ever quit smoking cigarettes - I don’t really remember what it’s like NOT to smoke. I’m trying to cut down on alcohol, though. I suspect I may be an alcoholic…I have an addictive personality (I think I’m the only one here that had a heroin habit), so really, anything but weed is just bad for me. Marijuana makes me feel…normal, I guess. I think I’m done with everything else for a bit.
And yeah, what’s up with people that’ll trip acid (oh, I miss it!) but won’t do 'shrooms? Weird.

Ok. I have replies to a couple of ya…

To Christonabun :

…A list of what I’ve done would be ridiculously long…I’m… acid (oh, I miss it!) but won’t do 'shrooms? Weird.

I’m with ya man. A list of everything I’ve done (if I could even remember all of it) would be ridiculously long and not quite worth dragging all those skeletons out of the closet. The only drugs that I am against (yes there are a few) would be : cocaine & crack (the worst damn thing I’ve ever known… that shit really destroys people lives) and pills/pharmaceuticals/medications (I hate the way they zombify people and I’ve never understood why anyone would WANT to feel like those things make you). Hell, I don’t even take aspirin or naproxen. I just don’t trust medical companies at all. I pretty much KNOW what I’m getting on the street. God ONLY knows what the hell “doctors and scientists” put in those little pills that suck out people’s souls. I am the same way about my cigarettes. I’ve smoked for so long now that I really can’t remember not smoking, and as of where I am in life, have no intentions of EVER quitting or slowing down on them. I AM an alcoholic. Straight up. I won’t deny it. It’s not as bad as some people say. It’s just a preferance of addiction. You can be addicted to anything, we just so happen to like mind altering substances rather than say sex or gambling or tv or something else. You are wrong about the heroin thing… You’re not the only one here that’s had that habit and I’m sure that there are a few others that lurk on here who’ve had their flings with it too. Anything at all is bad for me, but I just got so used to doing everything in the world all the time that it just doesn’t quite feel right when I sober up or stretch my buzzes thin.

To everyone that’s been speaking of it :

Acid is my favorite drug period. I love that stuff… It’s just a damn shame that I haven’t seen it around here in years. I did acid first and steered clear of 'shrooms for years. Some weird phobia about eating something that grows in feces, LOL. When I finally did break down and do them I really enjoyed the trip. Much more visual and body buzz than acid, but I like LSD for the mental frame it sets you into.

And to my favorite polarity, Senor Peligro :

You smoke 1 -2 packs of… DEATHWISH, buddy?

Some would say that. The cigarettes don’t do anything for me but calm my nerves and satisfy a habit now. The bud isn’t really all that big a deal. It doesn’t really “mess you up” that bad. I just smoke a lot because I have a lot of friends and I have a lot of time to hang out. A far as the alcohol, yes I drink every day but it’s not like I have a routine for it. Some days I drink light (a pint of spirits and a 6 pack of beer) and some days I drink heavy (way too damn much for most people). It really depends on who I’m hanging out with and the situations I find myself in. And while it may seem a lot to someone like you who doesn’t do very much, you have to understand that people like me who have developed addictions and dependencies unfortunately also develop tolerances. That’s where a HUGE chunk of my usage actually goes to. We could go head to head on just about anything and it’s gonna hit you a hell of a lot harder than me because my body is used to the daily damage I inflict and with my tolerances I have to do a bit more for me to even truly start feeling the effects of my usage.

Fuck, in all seriousness take better care of yrself, man. That’s quite scary!

This has been said to me so many times from so many people that I’ve just phased it all out. BUT… coming from you, maybe I should take a good introspective look at things. Thanks for giving half a damn, seriously. =)

Hmmmm…I’ve taken up with a personal trainer… whole life. And I’m 31. Old!

Never quitting cigs… at least I have no intentions to. I don’t really see where it’s that big a deal, and I really do enjoy the habit (which you may not understand). Congrats on quitting smoking, though. I know I sure as hell wouldn’t have the willpower to do it. As far as drinking… One day I would like to be able to call myself a true “social drinker” but I have extreme doubts of that considering how easily my personality takes things to excess. I’ve never been big on wine (gives me a MIGHTY headache the day after). Liquor is actually one of those things that just flows like the tide. I might drink (for me at least) very little for months and then for a few months go on a straight out bourbon deathwish binge. Beer is the only real constant in my alcoholism. Goes down like water and tastes a lot like it too (unless it’s hot).

The hardest thing for me to give up is coffee and junk food. I find that much more addictive than cigarettes. I cannot pass by a Hungry Jacks without salivating. It’s so disgusting. Good thing fer me I’m naturally slim. Else I’d be in trouble.

See… again we criss cross. I drink coffee maybe 3 times a YEAR. I hate that stuff. It’s bitter and leaves the most god awful aftertaste and I wind up drinking half a cup of milk and sugar each time just to kill the coffee flavoring. And junk food? Christ. I quit going trick or treating on Halloween when I was 8 because I can’t stand sweets and candies and junk food. I don’t even eat fast food if I can help it. While I may not take care of myself with the substances I ingest, I sure as hell make up for it with the way I keep a healthy diet and good exercise routine. I myself am a naturally slim person and I have an enormously high metabolism. That helps a lot to cope with all the crap I do. Your meta copes with your caffeine/fatty food habits… Mine copes with my chemicals… Basically the same thing, just differant ways to do it. I may overdose or cause serious liver damage or whatever with my actions, but yours will give you high cholesterol and stress your heart and many other possibilities. Either way we’re both killing ourselves, so let’s not fret over what manner each chooses, eh?

Oh and as fer drugs…get a life. Really.

Had one. Have one. Don’t care for a new one yet. All I can say is to each their own.

Peace!

Krowe

Never smoked cigarettes. smoked maybe 3 or 4 cigars a year. I have a hooka and smoked nalcala for about a year (it’s really like incense you smoke, 0 tar and .05 Nicotine) It was nothing to stop smoking it, the only buzz you get is because you deprive yourself of oxygen and it goes away in about 15 seconds. I really haven’t smoked anything since the end of last june. Other than that I have no drug use to report. I hate the taste of alcohol so that habit never got picked up. I do have a question to ask though:
WHAT IS SALVIA?
and I thought PCP made you mega strong and angry?
Late,
grmpysmrf

The hardest thing for me to give up is junk food.

God I feel ya on this one…


And to my favorite polarity, Senor Peligro :

!


The cigarettes don’t do anything for me but calm my nerves and satisfy a habit now.

Read an interview with David Bowie, where he said that giving up cigarettes was the hardest thing he EVER did. Ditto Ozzy Osbourne.

Side note - did you know that David Lynch smokes 60 cigarettes a day?!?!

The bud isn’t really all that big a deal. It doesn’t really “mess you up” that bad.

Now THIS is where we disagree. I’ve pretty much reached the conclusion that pot is FUCKING EVIL! All this rubbish that pot is ‘harmless’ makes my blood boil. I’ve known two guys who killed themselves during drug induced psychotic episodes and know another two or three people who have basically turned into zombies through smoking it constantly. And these were all guys with bright, promising futures. You can’t believe how much this tears me up.

I had a psychotic ‘turn’ about five years ago after smoking. I smoked on and off for about eight years. I’m the kind who is prone to major paranoia while stoned so I never smoked it heavily. When I get stoned I obsess over death and the universe and end up freaking myself out. Anyhow, one day, something happened to me after smoking a rather large joint. I had a panic attack - a major panic attack - and within minutes, literally regressed to the state of a frightened animal in a cage. I had a thousand thoughts racing through my mind at once and my heart was threatening to beat its way through my ribcage. I had no idea who I was and why I was there. In short, I temporarily went insane - or at least that’s what it felt like.

When I emerged from my bedroom, nearly forty eight hours later, I looked like something out of Dawn Of The Dead. Completely pale with black circles under my eyes. For the next six months I suffered severe panic attacks and had trouble sleeping. I eventually quit my job because of it. Can honestly say it’s the scariest thing that has ever happened to me and have not touched it for five years. If I live to be a hundred you’ll never catch me smoking it again. The damn thing causes psychosis and schizophrenia.

It may not kill you, a la heroin, but can reduce you to a gibbering, mindless wreck and some say that’s a fate worse than death.

BUT… coming from you, maybe I should take a good introspective look at things.

!!

And junk food? Christ. I quit going trick or treating on Halloween when I was 8 because I can’t stand sweets and candies and junk food. I don’t even eat fast food if I can help it…I keep a healthy diet and good exercise routine…Basically the same thing, just differant ways to do it. I may overdose or cause serious liver damage or whatever with my actions, but yours will give you high cholesterol and stress your heart and many other possibilities. Either way we’re both killing ourselves, so let’s not fret over what manner each chooses, eh?

Well…I don’t BINGE on junk food, it’s just that I’d find it harder to eliminate that from my lifestyle than nicotine. But I do eat take out at least once a week. Mostly though it’s Subway (turkey, cheese and salad sub) or Chinese (fried tofu and vegies and maybe a bit of lemon chicken) . Rarely McDonalds, KFC etc. Although maybe once or twice a month I’ll TOTALLY pig out and go nuts on the fatty shit. And I DO mean NUTS!

I don’t have high cholesterol. I’m slim and reasonably toned (not buffed…but who is). I work out three time a week (intensively) and eat a lot of fruit / vegetables and soy products.

Coffee is a weakness. And with the coffee comes the inevitable biscuits or the donuts. I can’ have one without the other. That’s pretty much my downfall - two cups of coffee and a cake and handful of biscuits a day. That’s probably about as bad as it gets.

Oh and Coca Cola. Drink way too much of that shit. But something’s gonna get you in the end. Right?

just my 2 cents on this topic. for starters i smoke about half a pack of cigs a day. i was smoking a good pack a day for 10 or so years but cut it down 6 months ago or so. for me its straight habit. where i work all my friends smoke and we go out once every 2 hours or so. its just routine there. around the weekend im not too bad. but i can still pound a pack+ if im out getting drunk or at a concert (lucky for me u can still smoke everywhere in michigan). anyhow, when i go visit my parents and dont smoke i dont crave them that bad. but i feel lost out of my routine. i’ve found if i just leave an unlit cig in my mouth that i can be content for a long time without actually smoking it. so i def have the oral fixation thing going. i plan on quitting at some point in time but for now my ten a day feels fine to me. when it doesn’t i’ll stop.

as for drugs. my condolences to those that have lost friends and family. i’ve lost 3 relatives to hepatitis or hiv due to needle use (was only close to one). and i’ve seen at least 2 families nearly ripped apart by needle or crack use. i have no use for those drugs. i haven’t done anything but weed in 7 or 8 years. i smoked weed daily for 6 or so. all i can say is know what you’re smoking. ive smoked weed thousands of times and only 3 or 4 of those times were bad. and it was while smoking cheap weed gotten from someone i don’t know. and i guarantee you there was more in it than weed. i was tweaking. so i have no idea what i smoked but it wasn’t a good time. i functioned fine smoking daily and know a ton of people that hold down very good jobs who smoke constantly. my advice is to know your weed, and once you find some that suits you well (because there are so many types to choose from), keep using it and buying it from the same person if possible. of course it always helps if you can just grow your own, but seriously 1st things 1st, always go quailty over quantity. just my opinion.

Read an interview with David Bowie, where he said that giving up cigarettes was the hardest thing he EVER did. Ditto Ozzy Osbourne.

Side note - did you know that David Lynch smokes 60 cigarettes a day?!?!

Yeah I heard that about Lynch though he did quit for 20 years and admits it’s a horrible habit. Also when Bowie quit, he looked 20 years younger too. It was a contrast…

Acid is my favorite drug period. I love that stuff… It’s just a damn shame that I haven’t seen it around here in years. I did acid first and steered clear of 'shrooms for years. Some weird phobia about eating something that grows in feces,

thank god. i thought it was just me. i havent been able to get my hands on acid in ages either!!

and i hate mushrooms for that exact same reason! like i cant even eat eat real mushrooms. blah.

good to see im not alone out there.

-al

another two or three people who have basically turned into zombies through smoking it constantly.

as sad as it is, it’s true. :frowning: i also know several people that now have memory issues because they smoked too much pot. they’re not stopping though…

i’ve done weed what - just 6 or 7 times… 1st one was fucked up, i ended up in a hour-long panic like peligro described. but after that it was 5 hour heaven laying on the bed listening to 3 tool albums. the subsequent times were pretty good although i’m not giggly like most people are when they smoke pot.

what i disliked is that every time that the effect wears of (and the most effect of the weed i like is the music ‘clarity’) then for another 10 hours or so i wander around the house with no will to do anything and no thoughts. :slight_smile:

also i tried DXM two times. it was awesome. i was listening to tool (yeah they’re trippy) and massive attack mezzanine (great drug album as it turned out) and it was just awesome.

then i just lost interest in drugs or something…

[reply]The bud isn’t really all that big a deal. It doesn’t really “mess you up” that bad.

Now THIS is where we disagree. I’ve pretty much reached the conclusion that pot is FUCKING EVIL! All this rubbish that pot is ‘harmless’ makes my blood boil. I’ve known two guys who killed themselves during drug induced psychotic episodes and know another two or three people who have basically turned into zombies through smoking it constantly. And these were all guys with bright, promising futures. You can’t believe how much this tears me up.

I had a psychotic ‘turn’ about five years ago after smoking. I smoked on and off for about eight years. I’m the kind who is prone to major paranoia while stoned so I never smoked it heavily. When I get stoned I obsess over death and the universe and end up freaking myself out. Anyhow, one day, something happened to me after smoking a rather large joint. I had a panic attack - a major panic attack - and within minutes, literally regressed to the state of a frightened animal in a cage. I had a thousand thoughts racing through my mind at once and my heart was threatening to beat its way through my ribcage. I had no idea who I was and why I was there. In short, I temporarily went insane - or at least that’s what it felt like.

When I emerged from my bedroom, nearly forty eight hours later, I looked like something out of Dawn Of The Dead. Completely pale with black circles under my eyes. For the next six months I suffered severe panic attacks and had trouble sleeping. I eventually quit my job because of it. Can honestly say it’s the scariest thing that has ever happened to me and have not touched it for five years. If I live to be a hundred you’ll never catch me smoking it again. The damn thing causes psychosis and schizophrenia.

It may not kill you, a la heroin, but can reduce you to a gibbering, mindless wreck and some say that’s a fate worse than death.

BUT… coming from you, maybe I should take a good introspective look at things.

I hate to break this to you, Peligro, but your shit was laced. What it was laced with, I don’t rightly know, but it was obviously bad news. I congratulate you on turning your life around, and blahblahblah, but seriously, maijuana will not and does not have the kind of affect you described without the help of some other drug. I’m willing to give you th benefit of the doubt, however - if weed really did that to you, I find it indicitive of a much worse mental imbalance that needs to be remedied immediately. There are several drugs on the market that may help with this. I’m not trying to be a dick, and I’m certainly not maligning you in any way - it’s just that you sound an awful lot like me, and that’s NEVER good. Please take care - Chris, the motherfucking pacifist.

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[reply]The bud isn’t really all that big a deal. It doesn’t really “mess you up” that bad.

Now THIS is where we disagree. I’ve pretty much reached the conclusion that pot is FUCKING EVIL! All this rubbish that pot is ‘harmless’ makes my blood boil. I’ve known two guys who killed themselves during drug induced psychotic episodes and know another two or three people who have basically turned into zombies through smoking it constantly. And these were all guys with bright, promising futures. You can’t believe how much this tears me up.

I had a psychotic ‘turn’ about five years ago after smoking. I smoked on and off for about eight years. I’m the kind who is prone to major paranoia while stoned so I never smoked it heavily. When I get stoned I obsess over death and the universe and end up freaking myself out. Anyhow, one day, something happened to me after smoking a rather large joint. I had a panic attack - a major panic attack - and within minutes, literally regressed to the state of a frightened animal in a cage. I had a thousand thoughts racing through my mind at once and my heart was threatening to beat its way through my ribcage. I had no idea who I was and why I was there. In short, I temporarily went insane - or at least that’s what it felt like.

When I emerged from my bedroom, nearly forty eight hours later, I looked like something out of Dawn Of The Dead. Completely pale with black circles under my eyes. For the next six months I suffered severe panic attacks and had trouble sleeping. I eventually quit my job because of it. Can honestly say it’s the scariest thing that has ever happened to me and have not touched it for five years. If I live to be a hundred you’ll never catch me smoking it again. The damn thing causes psychosis and schizophrenia.

It may not kill you, a la heroin, but can reduce you to a gibbering, mindless wreck and some say that’s a fate worse than death.

BUT… coming from you, maybe I should take a good introspective look at things.

I hate to break this to you, Peligro, but your shit was laced. What it was laced with, I don’t rightly know, but it was obviously bad news. I congratulate you on turning your life around, and blahblahblah, but seriously, maijuana will not and does not have the kind of affect you described without the help of some other drug. I’m willing to give you th benefit of the doubt, however - if weed really did that to you, I find it indicitive of a much worse mental imbalance that needs to be remedied immediately. There are several drugs on the market that may help with this. I’m not trying to be a dick, and I’m certainly not maligning you in any way - it’s just that you sound an awful lot like me, and that’s NEVER good. Please take care - Chris, the motherfucking pacifist.[/reply]
Can’t help you here chris… what Peligro wrote was DEAD ON what happened to me and I haven’t touched the stuff in almost 3 years (Not going to write I smoked on a messge board While I’m at work-which I am not at right now, which is why i dind’t include this earlier) but what peilgro wrote was exactly what happened to me. Actually weed does cause panic attacks in some people the percentage is low though it’s about 12 percent(Acording to jack herrer). what’s weird though, is Weed NEVER did that to me before but the last few times there at the end when I smoked it (from different sources I might add) that’s exactly what happened. even the thinking of death and the universe. it’s weird your mind makes it real and I think that weed makes everything clear in your head which means we really understand that we’re gonna die and this whole illusion of immortality/mortlality (oh I know I’m not going to live forever/…but a long enough time…even though it could be tomorrow) becomes crystal clear and scares the crap out you.
I’m glad to see someone else went through that and not just me. I thought I was just a weirdo. glad to the resident conservitive feels me on this! although I still don’t think it should be illegal. I’m all for people making their own choices. Just cause it effects myself and Peligro doesn’t mean we need to shut the party down. talk to you more about it, chris, on soulseek if your interested. I couldn’t have described that better, nice job Peligro
Late,
grmpysmrf

that’s exactly what happened. even the thinking of death and the universe. it’s weird your mind makes it real and I think that weed makes everything clear in your head which means we really understand that we’re gonna die and this whole illusion of immortality/mortlality (oh I know I’m not going to live forever/…but a long enough time…even though it could be tomorrow) becomes crystal clear and scares the crap out you.

Late,
grmpysmrf

And I’ll second that. Pot has given me some bumpy rides over the years. That whole ‘is ile real or just an illusion’ trip is fucken hairy. Been there many times. Then ya get ‘the fear’ and ‘the sweats’! Ugggh! I’ll definitely be thinking twice before I touch it again.

One of my neighbours woke up the whole street once with his screams, after a night out on the pot. We found him completely naked in the front yard of his house at 3am, curled up in a ball and urinating on himself. Sounds funny? Not even close. Poor kid was only thirteen aswell.

Scary.

Hahahaha holy shit what the fuck kind of weed are you guys smoking?!?

Seriously this shit is new to me I’ve NEVER seen anyone freak out like that except this one girl.

I think people who are uptight in general might have problems with it I suppose though…and minor paranoia is to be expected.

I’m reluctant to believe that in all of these instances, the weed wasn’t laced…

As for someone’s question about Salvia and PCP:

Salvia is a plant extract that looks similar to weed and is a legal hallucinogen that you can buy at those stupid bong shop type places. If you smoke a strong enough extract you can get brief, extreme hallucinations that make you feel as though you are somewhere else entirely.

As for PCP it definitely energizes you and you feel no pain. When I was on it I remember pounding on my knees, drumming along to that NIN song “driver down” from Lost Highway. I didn’t feel a thing, but the next day I had huge welts on my knees. It made me very hyperactive and I felt invincible, especially when I was driving, which was scary in hindsight. I suppose if you got angry on PCP, you could go on quite a rampage, but the drug doesn’t inherently make you angry or berserk. Most of those cases occur when PCP addicts get into problems with the cops and that’s when the drug enhances their agitation to a berserk rage.

Yeh I know a few people who have that whole weed -enduced panic attack thing, just sucks for them, most people I know are fine though. It probably has something to do with inner-problems, as far as the brain reacting oddly to the THC. Maybe some chemical thats in few strains of bud that some bodies just cant handle properly.

Salvia is pretty intense and fun, if you do it right. Probably the most disorienting high Ive known. Gravity and physics seem to take a coffee break when your on it, things get wacky.

Mushrooms, Ive read up on it, and it seems like most people end up throwing up easily while on it, or at least moreso than you would doing acid. I dunno, Im all for poisoning my body with weird substances, but not FUNGAL BACTERIA FROM SHIT!!! lol.

Am I the only person here thats tried heroin only ONCE?

…Im all for poisoning my body with weird substances, but not FUNGAL BACTERIA FROM SHIT!!! lol.

Am I the only person here thats tried heroin only ONCE?

Everybody seems to think that shrooms are grown only out of cow crap But I have an old hippie friend who used to grow (I showed him the Peligro post to better explain what happened to me and why I don’t smoke anymore) he also saw the shroom posts and he said in the beginning that’s how it was but most of your commercially (I use that term loosely) bought fungus is grown off of rice patties. so chances are excellent that if you run into fungus no cow poop is involved…but still won’t change the fact they “taste like crap but are ultimately fun.”
I wouldn’t know I never tried them but was in the presence of a friend that did and he had a good time on them.
thanks for the scoop on Salvia and PCP.

what was the Heroin trip like? Don’t you just sleep? I read that it changes your pleasure receptors in your nerve endings. it widens them permanately which means it becomes extremely hard to become “happy” on your own. and that even after doing it once the detox period is a miserable week. gives you horrible stomach pains (a la Kurt cobain which would also explain why he likes the bands “scratch acid” and “the vaslines”). It’s supposed to be wonderful though…SO I always figured if I ever become diagnosed terminal with anything I would try it because I’m dying quickly anyway AND if I end up becoming a homeless junkie it would only be for a couple of months or if I overdosed who cares I had under 6 mos to go anyway. I think that under that situation it would be nice to see what keeps killing the decent musicians.
Late,
grmpysmrf

… Then ya get ‘the fear’ and ‘the sweats’! Ugggh! I’ll definitely be thinking twice before I touch it again…

I really wonder it effects some people in such a negative way…It’s not the “uptight theory” or “chemimcal imbalance theory” because there are faw too many people that smoke pot because they are uptight and it effects them fine. and the chemical imbalance thing? No way there are far too many people with imbalances that smoke and are fine.
I’ll look up the Herrer stat on panic attack smokers tomorrow or sometime
Late,
grmpysmrf

…SO I always figured if I ever become diagnosed terminal with anything I would try it because I’m dying quickly anyway AND if I end up becoming a homeless junkie it would only be for a couple of months or if I overdosed who cares I had under 6 mos to go anyway. I think that under that situation it would be nice to see what keeps killing the decent musicians.

Y’know…you’re kinda weird.